Micro-trenching petition to City of Tshwane

[Alkine]

I would like to ask for your support by signing our petition:
https://www.change.org/p/city-of-tshwane-petition-for-fibre-broadband-in-pretoria-east-gauteng

The City of Tshwane is responding very negatively and irrationally to the proposed use of micro-trenching in spite of the fact that it is much better than traditional trenching (up to 10x when measured on cost, environmental impact and traffic impact). We have a critical interaction with the City next week, and would like to reach 3000 signatures before then.

Not only will this benefit The Lynnwood Fibre initiative in the east of Pretoria, but it will also benefit other initiatives in Pretoria. Please join us in reaching this goal.

 

[MickeyD]

What was their response?

 

[hawker]

I'll sign it.

 

[jackshiels]

Government idiots scared their Telkom shares are gonna fall...

 

[MickeyD]

Government idiots scared their Telkom shares are gonna fall...

Untrue.

It is impacting all operators in Tshwane. The metro is pushing for a pipe sharing process whereby they will provide the pipes and the operators must lease space from them.

 

[Alkine]

What was their response?

This is second hand info so I cant be exactly sure: Head of city planning basically threw a fit, responded in all red capitals, and threw the submission into the dustbin. Then everyone lawyered up.

I'll sign it.

Thank you kind sir!

Government idiots scared their Telkom shares are gonna fall...

Probably. This conflict of interest has harmed the country for decades.

 

[MickeyD]

Probably. This conflict of interest has harmed the country for decades.

You are looking in the wrong direction. Go read the LinkAfrica vs Tshwane metro judgement and you will see that it was Tshwane itself that was / is wanting to roll out its own broadband network and was blocking all other operators. LA won their case.

 

[Alkine]

You are looking in the wrong direction. Go read the LinkAfrica vs Tshwane metro judgement and you will see that it was Tshwane itself that was / is wanting to roll out its own broadband network and was blocking all other operators. LA won their case.

Wow, all I can say is Esih. Why do they think they can / should compete with businesses that deliver better services at better cost?

 

[MickeyD]

Wow, all I can say is Esih. Why do they think they can / should compete with businesses that deliver better services at better cost?

After Link Africa had won its case the metro appealed it right up to the Constitutional Court... and the metro lost!

See here: http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZACC/2015/29.html

[13] The City Manager responded to Link Africa’s notice by outlining the new direction the City wanted to take in relation to the roll out of broadband connectivity. And stated further that the City was in a tender process for the broadband project and would have expected Link Africa to tender and participate in the process if it was serious about partnering with the City in the furtherance of its vision to build a “Smart City”. In the same letter, the City informed Link Africa that its request to install an electronic communications network on its underground infrastructure was refused. The City did not make any representations in terms of PAJA as was anticipated by Link Africa.

EDIT: Now you see why I asked the question up front?

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

The metro is pushing for a pipe sharing process whereby they will provide the pipes and the operators must lease space from them.

I can just imagine the cluster**** that'll turn out to be....

 

[MickeyD]

I can just imagine the cluster**** that'll turn out to be....

If properly managed it can work.

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

If properly managed it can work.

Agreed, however it won't be... Waiting on CoT to come through and lay fibre trenches, it'll be quicker to wait for jesus.

 

[Borrels]

Done

 

[Alkine]

Done

Thank you!

 

[Charly]

I was speaking to the guy from FrogFoot. Apparently CoT got their security guards to "throw them out" when FF went to go see them recently.

This makes me sick honestly. Being uncooperative is one story but them making an effort to stop this from going forward is a completely different one.

 

[Geoff.D]

done

 

[Alkine]

I was speaking to the guy from FrogFoot. Apparently CoT got their security guards to "throw them out" when FF went to go see them recently.

This makes me sick honestly. Being uncooperative is one story but them making an effort to stop this from going forward is a completely different one.

Interesting, who from FF did you speak to?
When you say recently, was this last week or before that?

Really not proper behavior from CoT who is supposed to serve their residents.

 

[Charly]

Interesting, who from FF did you speak to?
When you say recently, was this last week or before that?

Really not proper behavior from CoT who is supposed to serve their residents.

I'm not sure who it was exactly. I sent a message to FF on Facebook.

His exact words were "the other day" so that could be anytime recently I guess.

 

[rph72]

Thread Necro!!

So what was the outcome?? Have any of the fibre network operators used this method yet?

Apparently Vumatel want to use micro-trenching in my hood in Cape Town together with aerial deployment. They will be doing 4 blocks for CoCT approval.

 

[pinball wizard]

Thread Necro!!

So what was the outcome?? Have any of the fibre network operators used this method yet?

Apparently Vumatel want to use micro-trenching in my hood in Cape Town together with aerial deployment. They will be doing 4 blocks for CoCT approval.

We are busy with our second POC in Stellenbosch. Hopeful we get engineering signoff and all our future Western Cape sites will use this method.

We are busy setting up POC's in Tshwane and Ekurhuleni as well.