Microsoft claims removing annoying apps is a copyright violation

[Jamie McKane]

Microsoft claims removing annoying apps is a copyright violation

Microsoft has claimed that removing specific Windows 10 applications, uninstalling bundled software, and changing certain settings is a copyright violation.

A modified version of Windows named Ninjutsu OS has been hit with a DMCA complaint by the company.

 

[Spliffcat]

Fekkof. The whole lot are gone.

 

[Petec]

Need an extra 4 gig mem just to deal with this bloatware crap

 

[backstreetboy]

The beauty of Linux.

 

[_TrXtR_]

Oh nows and I removed the whole operating system

 

[_TrXtR_]

Need an extra 4 gig mem just to deal with this bloatware crap

Yeah but running on 4gig is 2010 technology

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Oh nows and I removed the whole operating system

That is a copyright violation ...

 

[Petec]

Yeah but running on 4gig is 2010 technology

EXTRA 4gig. What I sarcastically meant was that the bundled bloatware in Win 10 leads to a waste in system hardware resources.

 

[grok]

Copyright refers to the legal right of the owner of intellectual property. In simpler terms, copyright is the right to copy. This means that the original creators of products and anyone they give authorization to are the only ones with the exclusive right to reproduce the work.

The right to copy.
Delete is not copy, unless you maybe count the move to the recycle bin?
But that's a move, not a copy.
No reproduction, no copy, no foul.
GFY Microsoft!

 

[rustypup]

Pretty sure this headline is specifically designed to be misleading.

Very light in detail...

Besides which, if you're going to whine about bloatware, that fricken xbox app should be front of queue.

...

 

[Datura]

The right to copy.
Delete is not copy, unless you maybe count the move to the recycle bin?
But that's a move, not a copy.
No reproduction, no copy, no foul.
GFY Microsoft!

Do you know how copyright works? It is a very complex topic and the owner of copyrighted software has many rights regarding what users may do with that software.

Software is still a bit of a grey are wrt copyright laws. Europe, for example, the owner of the copyright has the right to allow or forbid the alteration or distortion of the work and the making of derivative works. Probably similar rights everywhere else. I need to check.

If you don't agree with them, use another product. I highly recommend using Linux as an OS. It takes a little getting used to but is worth the headaches that come with any transition.

 

[Arthur]

Half-baked half-wit half-watt sensationalist nonsense news story.
Of course a user is free to remove/disable any unwanted apps and services on their own machine, or on org-owned machines where the licence is owned by an org.
What you can't do it remove the apps/services and then distribute your own customised image to other users who have their own separate licensing agreement with Msft - you are essentially making an unauthorised copy of the software and distributing it in violation of the original copyright and licensing agreement.

I'm pretty sure Canonical and other Linux distro owners would do exactly the same. You can't take a distro of Ubuntu, remove/add services, and then distribute it in the market as MyNinjaOS.

 

[Datura]

Half-baked half-wit half-watt sensationalist nonsense news story.
Of course a user is free to remove/disable any unwanted apps and services on their own machine, or on org-owned machines where the licence is owned by an org.
What you can't do it remove the apps/services and then distribute your own customised image to other users who have their own separate licensing agreement with Msft - you are essentially making an unauthorised copy of the software and distributing it in violation of the original copyright and licensing agreement.

I'm pretty sure Canonical and other Linux distro owners would do exactly the same. You can't take a distro of Ubuntu, remove/add services, and then distribute it in the market as MyNinjaOS.

I am doing this right now. Thanks.

 

[Arthur]

I am doing this right now. Thanks.

Distributing it in the marketplace under your own name?

 

[pinball wizard]

You can't take a distro of Ubuntu, remove/add services, and then distribute it in the market as MyNinjaOS.

I'm pretty sure you can.

Here's a how to:

https://fosspost.org/tutorials/create-linux-distribution-based-on-ubuntu

For distribution, you need to follow this:

Stating relationship of derived distro to Ubuntu

It is OK to state that your derived distro is based on Ubuntu by saying "MyDistroName, based on Ubuntu". It is not legal to state that your distro is "Something Ubuntu" or similar.

Source: Statement by Matt Zimmerman from Ubuntu (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2007-January/023107.html)

Stating that your distro is based on Ubuntu is also a way of giving credit to community which you base your work on.

Rationale

Ubuntu (and its main derivatives) are great distributions, but they do not fit all possible needs and use cases. By creating derivative distributions it is possible to spread Linux into more environments and Ubuntu itself can be improved by feedback from derivatives. It is also worth noting that Ubuntu itself is derivative of Debian distribution.

Ubuntu not only allows, but also encourages creation of derivative distros (if it is reasonable):

The creation of derivative distributions based on Ubuntu, where the
trademark is respected according to our policy[1], is not only allowed, it
is encouraged. If your tool makes this process easier, then everyone is
happy. Thanks for your concern.

[1] http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy

Source: Matt Zimmerman from Ubuntu (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-December/023054.html)

 

[backstreetboy]

Half-baked half-wit half-watt sensationalist nonsense news story.
Of course a user is free to remove/disable any unwanted apps and services on their own machine, or on org-owned machines where the licence is owned by an org.
What you can't do it remove the apps/services and then distribute your own customised image to other users who have their own separate licensing agreement with Msft - you are essentially making an unauthorised copy of the software and distributing it in violation of the original copyright and licensing agreement.

I'm pretty sure Canonical and other Linux distro owners would do exactly the same. You can't take a distro of Ubuntu, remove/add services, and then distribute it in the market as MyNinjaOS.

Que? https://itsfoss.com/weird-ubuntu-based-linux-distributions/

5. Ubuntu CE for Christians

7. Hannah Montana Linux for Miley Cyrus fans

etc. etc.

 

[saor]

What you can't do it remove the apps/services and then distribute your own customised image to other users who have their own separate licensing agreement with Msft -

Article doesn't really specify whether Ninjutsu OS is a repacked Windows 10 or just the tools to remove the bloat...

Ninjutsu OS provides a collection of tools and libraries for users to transform their Windows 10 installation into a penetration testing platform.

Which makes it seem like a tool to change the Windows 10 you already own. If they're distributing a completely overhauled Win 10 package then yeah I agree with you re. the wrongness of distributing customized images.

 

[Datura]

Distributing it in the marketplace under your own name?

Yours.

 

[karnuffel]

I guess MS doesnt like people distributing their own Images of their OS.

Removing some of the stuff after the install is easy with a drop of technical knowledge. Just use these commands in powershell:
DISM /Online /Get-ProvisionedAppxPackages | select-string Packagename
DISM /Online /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageNameACKAGENAME

 

[MirageF1]

GFU's