Microsoft is giving Windows 7 and 8 users no choice but to upgrade to Windows 10

[MrGray]

Well here is my experience from yesterday. I was tasked with upgrading a PC form WIN XP to WIN 10. As a result of a number of issues, the easiest route was to first restore the original OS on the laptop ( it was a Win 7 machine - then replaced with WIN XP at some stage.)

This is what happened. restored Win 7, waited for process to complete. Almost immediately a WIN 7 "update" showed up. I had no intention of updating win 7, because in any case it would be replaced with WIN 10, But the phone rang and I got involved in another issue.

When I returned to the PC, the WIN 7 update had completed. At some stage I saw the PC asked for a restart but was not paying full attention and just clicked yes. I again came in to see the counter you are talking about running with 10 seconds left and there it was, the WIN 10 upgrade had started automatically!

So what looks like is that a WIN 7 update took place ( Why not after all, you want to keep your WIN 7 up to date not so?) Hidden in that update (just like with the IE 11 one) there must have been this little trick which then started the update without your bookkeeper being any the wiser or responsible for triggering it. Yes these really unacceptable things MS are doing are the problem not WIN 10 per se.

It seems that what has happened is that MS has moved Win 10 from "Optional" to "Recommended" in updates and most PC's are by default set to always install anything in "Recommended".

 

[Kingofmybbknowitalls]

A client informed me yesterday that her machine upgraded itself and now all her files that used to be in the 'Documents' folder are gone.

I had a look and they really are nowhere to be found, anywhere on the drive. They just vanished into thin air.

Only the 'Documents' folder was affected by the upgrade. Everything else correctly moved to their new location.

 

[Geoff.D]

Search for any file that your client can remember being in the affected folder --- you may just find out where the files are now.

 

[Kingofmybbknowitalls]

Search for any file that your client can remember being in the affected folder --- you may just find out where the files are now.

Tried that 1st thing this morning.

They are gone.

She did have a trojan on the machine though. That might have played a role.

 

[backstreetboy]

Tried that 1st thing this morning.

They are gone.

She did have a trojan on the machine though. That might have played a role.

Look into Windows.old > Users(?) > username > Documents

 

[Kingofmybbknowitalls]

Look into Windows.old > Users(?) > username > Documents

The search would have picked it up there, but I looked there even before running the search.

Doing a Google search for this issue returned a few results where this also happened to other users. In most of their cases the files were moved to an obscure location, but I checked every single possibility, and the files are nowhere.

And yes, I even double-checked to see if the system is configured to show hidden files in case they were hidden for some reason.

 

[Geoff.D]

Were the documents originally installed in a folder called "My Documents" or was this changed by the client to another folder called "Documents"? Not sure if this is relevant though. Can't see how only some folders would disappear and others not.

Single disk partition? or is there a D partition?
Files not hidden maybe?


Clutching at straws, just throwing in suggestions.

 

[LazyLion]

Tried that 1st thing this morning.

They are gone.

She did have a trojan on the machine though. That might have played a role.

Apparently you have to let Windows 10 do some updates and the folder then re-appears....
Read it in an article when it happened so some tech guru.

 

[Kingofmybbknowitalls]

Thanks for all the suggestions.

It is a single-partition drive, and the machine had Windows 7 on it. The folder was not renamed.

Windows 10 completed all the updates that are currently available, without the files re-appearing.

This is very curious, as I must have done over 100 manual upgrades to date, and never has there been the slightest indication that this was a possibility.

The old rule of backing up before making significant changes to a computer should then be kept in mind from here on.

In this case the machine proceeded with the update automatically, so there was no way to even do that.

 

[info@postechdirect.co.za]

I find the startup with Windows 10 is slow...

 

[supersunbird]

Thanks for all the suggestions.

It is a single-partition drive, and the machine had Windows 7 on it. The folder was not renamed.

Windows 10 completed all the updates that are currently available, without the files re-appearing.

This is very curious, as I must have done over 100 manual upgrades to date, and never has there been the slightest indication that this was a possibility.

The old rule of backing up before making significant changes to a computer should then be kept in mind from here on.

In this case the machine proceeded with the update automatically, so there was no way to even do that.

Try a old school, non indexed file search (don't know if windows10 offers that).

Maybe also try Recuva.

 

[info@postechdirect.co.za]

Just finding Windows startup is slow

 

[Bryn]

I find the startup with Windows 10 is slow...

Mine starts up very quickly. Seldom much more than 10 seconds with an SSD. You probably need to reformat. I reformatted immediately after initially upgrading to Windows 10, precisely because I'd heard how common strange little issues were if you didn't.

 

[info@postechdirect.co.za]

Tried this a few times formatting and and clean installing.... Still am issue with startup been slow . Now looking to rather install SSD first and then reinstall again

 

[KleinBoontjie]

I find the startup with Windows 10 is slow...

Is AHCI enabled in BIOS?

 

[backstreetboy]

The search would have picked it up there, but I looked there even before running the search.

Doing a Google search for this issue returned a few results where this also happened to other users. In most of their cases the files were moved to an obscure location, but I checked every single possibility, and the files are nowhere.

And yes, I even double-checked to see if the system is configured to show hidden files in case they were hidden for some reason.

Not if it's still busy indexing. It'll do that after upgrading to Windows 10. Fire up portable Everything https://www.voidtools.com/ maybe it'll pick it up.

 

[Kingofmybbknowitalls]

Not if it's still busy indexing. It'll do that after upgrading to Windows 10. Fire up portable Everything https://www.voidtools.com/ maybe it'll pick it up.

The upgrade was done on Monday and I was informed of the issue on Wednesday, so indexing would have long been completed, especially since it's a Core-i7 machine.

I also tried portable Everything, since that was one of the things the other users mentioned that was in the same boat. It just picks up the latest files that she created after the upgrade.

 

[supersunbird]

The upgrade was done on Monday and I was informed of the issue on Wednesday, so indexing would have long been completed, especially since it's a Core-i7 machine.

If you are 100% certain that its done indexing, then I suggest Recuva (if quick scan does not show it, do the deep one).

 

[Thor]

Just finding Windows startup is slow

Not on a Samsung 950 Pro

My startup is around 1.3 seconds

 

[backstreetboy]

http://www.zdnet.com/article/sticking-with-windows-7-the-forecast-calls-for-pain/

On Monday morning, I began installing Windows 7 Pro on a clean virtual machine.

On Tuesday morning, more than 24 hours later, the installation was still not finished.

That, in a nutshell, is the unpleasant reality that consumers and small businesses face in sticking with Windows 7 as it counts down to the end of support, 1398 days from today.

The biggest problem, of course, is that Microsoft released Windows 7 Service Pack 1 on February 22, 2011, more than five years ago. Despite occasional rumors and hopes, Microsoft has never released a Service Pack 2 or even a post-SP1 update rollup. Which means that if you try to do a clean install using the most recent installation media, as I did on Monday, this is what you see when you run Windows Update.