Microsoft is giving Windows 7 and 8 users no choice but to upgrade to Windows 10

[biometrics]

http://www.zdnet.com/article/sticking-with-windows-7-the-forecast-calls-for-pain/

I recently experienced the 200+ update pain on two upgraded PC's. A bit of a pain but once done it's fine. Got another 4+ years of Windows 7 support.

 

[Splinter]

What I find bizarre is that America is the land of lawsuits...what is MS doing here? There is no defence against forcing a change on a customer who bought a certain product and wants to stay with that product.

 

[Sm00thSm0k3]

Windows 8.1 is a POS. Been using it on my main rig for about 6 or 7 months now and I still hate it.

My wife's lappy came pre-installed with 8.0 and on Saturday morning MS also did their "forced" Windows 10 installation/update without our knowledge.

Sat down, recovered from sleep mode and I was like "WTF?! Everything looks different"

So far so good though...seems to be irritating me way less than 8.0/8.1.

Thinking of doing a fresh 8.1 install on my rig and letting the update do it's thing however I'm lazy to backup my saved games and all that other crap again.

 

[info@postechdirect.co.za]

I have an I7 8gb ram - so it's done then- need to upgrade my hard drive to SSD drive

 

[Hummercellc]

Not a fan of Windows 10, most of my programs I use for work just disappear, I think windows 10 is a let down, very fragmented. Multiple menus for setting and I do not like the layout of networking, also fragmented. One simple interface for everything would have been nice like windows 7.
Yes windows 10 is better than 8
But windows 7 is better than both. In my opinion. Not updating anytime soon.

 

[CruelBreeze]

But windows 7 is better than both. In my opinion. Not updating anytime soon.

Well that's just your opinion man. I'd take 10 over both 7 and 8 any day.

 

[I O U]

Never 10 : NEW v1.3 RELEASE REMOVES ~6.5GB OF WIN10 FILES

I go through updates on 2x Win 7 machines, and a newer 8.1 one, checking for anything to do with the 10 upgrade. So far, haven't even received that small block in the right hand corner on any of them, to do with the upgrade (have only seen it on screenshots, in articles on the net).

Have not looked at this whole thread to see if posted, but are you all aware of :
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

The name “Never 10” is a bit of an overstatement, since this utility may also be used to easily re-enable Windows operating system automatic upgrading. But the primary reason for using this is to disable Windows' pestering insistence upon upgrading Windows 7 or 8.1 to Windows 10.

Haven't had a need to put it on yet, as I go through each KB file.

 

[BandwidthAddict]

There is an application called never10 made by Steve Gibson of GRC.com that turns off the windows 10 update nagging and forced upgrades.

 

[backstreetboy]

Well that's just your opinion man. I'd take 10 over both 7 and 8 any day.

+100 and it's only going to get better...

http://changewindows.org/build.php?id=126

Start and Cortana

Cortana can now sync across devices
You'll now get a notification whenever your mobile device is running out of battery
Find my phone/Ring my phone is now available through Cortana
You can now share map directions between your devices
Cortana can now automatically fetch the required speech language for you
Cortana can now give reminder suggestions
You can now change Cortana's language
Cortana's Settings have been moved outside the Notebook
Desktop

You can now show a window on all your desktops
User Interface

When logging into a locked account, the new lockscreen animation is now used
Windows Spotlight is now supported with the new lockscreen animation
Some apps like Edge, Skype and more are using a new loading animation
The upgrade experience has a new design
Edge

Edge has been updated from version 34.14295 to version 37.14316 with the following updates
You can now upload folders
On Mobile, when an app opens a new tab, pressing back will now close it
On Mobile, when typing in a text box, you can now use the pase button above the keyboard
Edge now supports importing favorites from Firefox
Imported favorites will now be put in their own folder, instead of the already existing favorites folder
The Favorites hub now uses a tree view
When closing Edge with running downloads, Edge will now warn you
You can now set a default save location for downloads
Edges default opening settings are now a dropdown
When Flash content isn't the focus, Edge will pause it automatically
There is now an accessibility tree view in F12
You can now debug extensions through F12
You can now use DOM API profiling
EdgeHTML has been updated from version 14.14295 to version 14.14316 with the following updates
Default parameters
Async/await
Object.values and Object.entries
Opus audio format
Time element
Date element
Output element
Color input type
Canvas Path2D objects
Web Speech API
The User Agent String has been updated
The following flags have been added
ES6 Regex symbols
Fetch API
Web Notifications API
Settings

New panels, settings and options
You can now choose which app's notifications are more important to you
You can now choose how many notifications an app can have in the Action Center
You can now choose between dark and light mode
The color for title bars and the color for the taskbar, start and Action Center can now be toggled separately from each other
You can now manage on a per-app base if an app can run in the background or not, or if this has to be hanled by Windows
Windows Update now allows you to set the time you're most active in so that it can avoid updating at that point
You can now override Active Hours with the Restart Options
The Windows Update notification after installing an update now takes you to the device's update history
You can now enable Device Portal
You can now enable a number of developer-focused settings for File Explorer
There are now a number of developer-focused settings for Remote Desktop
You can now share your Wi-Fi as a hotspot
PowerShell also has a number for develop-focused settings
Visual updates and others
The Settings app has a new design for its home page
The accent color table has been redesigned and is now always shown
Battery settings are now displayed on one single page
Under "Activation" Windows will now say that the license is coupled to your account
Update History is moved out of Advanced Options in Windows Update
System

You can now use the Ubuntu Bash natively in Windows
Apps

Skype UWP Preview has been added as a default app
Connect has been added as a default app
Test Taker has been added as a default app
You can now react on feedback in the Feedback Hub
Messaging Everywhere Beta has been added to the Messaging app
The Get Skype app has been removed
And further

The emoji set has been completely revamped
The default emoji’s are no longer grey, but yellow

Edge is now beating Firefox as well.

 

[Grouter]

Yawn.

 

[LazyLion]

OK, so I am trying to upgrade a client's laptop to Win 10 at her request.
But every time it downloads, then I click install now, it reboots, and when it comes back nothing happens.
All the downloaded files are deleted and it goes back to offering the Win10 upgrade icon.
I've tried 4 times now, and wasted so many *&%$#ing gigabytes downloading this piece of crap.

 

[backstreetboy]

OK, so I am trying to upgrade a client's laptop to Win 10 at her request.
But every time it downloads, then I click install now, it reboots, and when it comes back nothing happens.
All the downloaded files are deleted and it goes back to offering the Win10 upgrade icon.
I've tried 4 times now, and wasted so many *&%$#ing gigabytes downloading this piece of crap.

Download the Media Creation Tool, make an iso, mount it, and double click on it to install... or format a flash drive to fat32, copy iso content over to said flash drive and double click on setup.exe

 

[LazyLion]

Too late now. Have to give it back to her now. At least I got her Garmin working with Win 8.1.
What a freaking waste of my bandwidth.
Thanks for nothing MS, you scumbags!

 

[bekdik]

Too late now. Have to give it back to her now. At least I got her Garmin working with Win 8.1.
What a freaking waste of my bandwidth.
Thanks for nothing MS, you scumbags!

It doesn't seem as if you should be fixing clients machines if you don't know what you are doing.

 

[backstreetboy]

Lol blaming MS for ones own stupidity... They get a bad rep for nothing these days.

 

[DA-LION-619]

It doesn't seem as if you should be fixing clients machines if you don't know what you are doing.

Lol blaming MS for ones own stupidity... They get a bad rep for nothing these days.

lol!

 

[Ho3n3r]

Lol blaming MS for ones own stupidity... They get a bad rep for nothing these days.

Agreed. The biggest issues I've heard people having with Windows 10 - and 8.1, for that matter - is users failing to adapt and get used to the changes.

 

[LazyLion]

It doesn't seem as if you should be fixing clients machines if you don't know what you are doing.

I don't think you should be replying to people on a forum if you have no idea what you are talking about.
Esp. If you are an MS fan boi.

 

[bekdik]

I don't think you should be replying to people on a forum if you have no idea what you are talking about.
Esp. If you are an MS fan boi.

If you say so.

 

[Johnatan56]

+100 and it's only going to get better...

http://changewindows.org/build.php?id=126



Edge is now beating Firefox as well.

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Firefox 45 is out, Firefox 40 was released 10 months ago. Where is Chrome in that listing. Latest Safari is 9.1, 9.0 was released September last year.
I like Edge, everything just seems big on it. I'd like the toolbar/address bar or whatever is at the top to be a bit smaller. Chrome and Firefox in Full-screen use half of the space.

Agreed. The biggest issues I've heard people having with Windows 10 - and 8.1, for that matter - is users failing to adapt and get used to the changes.

I don't like what they've done with settings. It's still not finished. Also, missing the option to set preferred WiFi connection, I have 3 WiFis I can connect to at uni. W7 had that, can't find it in W10, unless someone can point me in the right direction?