Microsoft ... you just plain suck

[Darth Garth]

And here I thought that Microsoft was changing and perhaps seeing the light with their support for RSS in Longhorn and releasing and engaging the community with their RSS extensions.

It seems that they are now going to buy Claria which is better known as Gator an infamous spyware/adware company for a rumored 500 million dollars in their battle with google.

Microsoft AntiSpyware incidently in the latest signature updates downgraded Claria/Gator from "Remove" to "Ignore" as their default actions.

I for one hope that Google kills your entire Windows ecosystem stupid w@nkers.

http://www.benedelman.org/news/063005-1.html

 

[Scott]

OMG...

Microsoft...I hate gator

Im gonna have to get a different anti-spyware since i cant trust microsofts one...

 

[Franna]

This move by Microsoft is surely sending out the wrong message to spyware/adware companies...

 

[guest2013-1]

spam on brutha....

hey, why don't we all just use linux *snigger*

 

[lilgindauk]

I'm getting linux and apparenly its much better and more stable than windows.
One of the worst windows is xp and me.
I had endless problems and micro didnt help either!

 

[bekdik]

Microsoft AntiSpyware incidently in the latest signature updates downgraded Claria/Gator from "Remove" to "Ignore" as their default actions.
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How do you know this?

 

[Darth Garth]

How do you know this?

Did you click the link below that I posted ???.

http://www.benedelman.org/news/063005-1.html

 

[bekdik]

Did now. Thanks.

 

[TheRoDent]

Whine whine whine. If you still use Windows you deserve spyware.

 

[pookfuzz]

TheRoDent,

Not everyone has the luxury of using an alternative OS, for many people the machine is shared with the family or a company resource. Some are locked into the platform through the software they have to use.

Others like myself are just idiots and like to live vicariously.

Original poster is however severely misled if he ever thought Microsoft was changing, tibby learn from history. Miscrosoft lie and engage is questionable business methods, they have always been this way. It does not matter how much the PR departments try paint the leopard a new colour, the spots are still there.

Take for example the whole thing with them announcing that they will be using "Open XML standards" for all new office products. The openoffice people got excited. Later it gets discovered that M$ patented the format. So while the format is open, it is still unusable by open source projects. They take the good things and make sure that using it cant benefit who they grabbed it from.

 

[Darth Garth]

Whine whine whine. If you still use Windows you deserve spyware.

The only other credible and worthy suck free alternative is Apple but the G5 is too expensive.

 

[pookfuzz]

Well Apple have made moves into the x86 arena. You will likely still have to purchase a "Apple" Intel machine when they eventually ship, but you can be sure that in a few days there will be a hacked MacOS that can run on the standard PC.

Hopefully the price of the Intel macs will be sensible so people won't have to resort to hacked/pirated things just to have a stable OS.

Having used a MacOS 10.3 myself I find the idea of a Intel port quite exciting, both from the technology point of view and from the cosmetic. MacOS just looks so much better than Windows and being BSD under the hood makes it very flexible and stable.

Of course I would really like something like BeOS, but despite continuing efforts from yellowtab I don’t think its going to get anywhere.

 

[Clipse]

OMG...

Microsoft...I hate gator

Im gonna have to get a different anti-spyware since i cant trust microsofts one...

You seriously trust it to begin with? *confused look*

 

[stoke]

And here I thought that Microsoft was changing and perhaps seeing the light with their ...I for one hope that Google kills your entire Windows ecosystem stupid w@nkers.
http://www.benedelman.org/news/063005-1.html

Thanks 4 the headz up tib druid. A new reason to swear at MS when their SW crashes is always welcome. I cannot believe that dumbass company I work for are MS partners. Bloodie whores.

 

[bb_matt]

The only other credible and worthy suck free alternative is Apple but the G5 is too expensive.

No, not at all. That's a bold and uneducated statement.

Many Operating Systems based on the Linux kernel are ready for office Desktop use and have been for some time.
Unfortunately, Microsoft have such massive leverage, it's not commercially viable to run, say, alternative Office Software.

You can try, but at some point you will come unstuck. It doesn't matter if Open Office is as good as Microsoft Office, because the latter has the monopoly.

Don't believe the FUD you hear about Linux anymore than the you would believe how much better it is.

Linux Operating Systems have everything that a Windows office machine requires - groupware (email, calendar, etc.), advanced word processing, web browsers, networking capabilities.

Unfortunately Desktop Linux is stuck in a catch 22 situation, companies will only start to adopt it when it becomes more popular.

There are some who believe that Linux will never make significant inroads onto the Desktop and will remain for the most part, server side. Certainly Apples move to Intel may kill of the small chance of Desktop Linux succeeding in a big way.

The only hope I can see for Linux on the desktop right now is support from companies like Adobe - native Adobe software releases for Linux of all their products. Unfortunately, Adobe views Linux users as a threat to their profit margin as they view them as users who only opt for free software.

The simple fact is, Linux is ready for mainstream desktop use, but the mainstream isn't ready for Linux.

 

[Daveogg]

Whine whine whine. If you still use Windows you deserve spyware.

Nice comment.
Just too take the argument a little further, with windows maintaining 93% of the desktop market I wonder how the 1% of linux users woud experience the internet if all those ms machines were actively spewing spyware?

 

[Clipse]

thats the point therodent tried to make, if you dont use windows, no one will get pissed off.

 

[warichard]

Actually, if the roles were reversed, lets say Linux holding 90-odd% of the desktop market while Windows did not, you would see a far greater level of attack on Linux than you currently see. The only reason Windows is targeted is due to its popularity and substantially greater installed base. As a malware writer, why target a couple of thousand potential users when you can target a couple of million.

 

[Clipse]

thats a general misconception warichard, linux/bsd or any unix product that I can think of, is from the core so much more secure than the multi-billion dollar Windows franchise. I wont go all the way of saying, its 100% insecure, but more secure by FAR, meaning ALOT more need to be done to make it insecure.

Look at msql server, its a joke. The hacks and recently tested slammer worm showed in 10minutes it infiltrated 250000 msql databases, it wasnt intended to do harm just a wake up call. Near future they predict ALOT more lethal industrial sabotage, who do you think they will happily target? Its not even a challenge nemore it seems.

With windows, its like breaking a window to get entry. With unix you will need to remove the whole door and trilidoor lol

I hope you get my point

 

[mbs]

Interminable discussion anent the Linux/Microsoft/Apple desktop preference tends to ignore the only salient issue - open source versus proprietary imperatives (read: profit). Its a misconception to compare the two anyway, as this is based on the fallacy that there's no money to be made in pursuing the open source alternative. Maybe not as much, perhaps, but it's certainly there. Issues of programmatic and data security are a no-brainer - the open source alternative is clearly superior, for the simple reason that many pairs of eyes are far more likely to expose malware than the constrained testers (in numbers and intent) of a commercial entity, over-and-above the technical excellence of the underlying OS design with its inherent security features...