Middle-class South Africa is in serious financial trouble

[etienne_marais]

They are? Then I will have to become a communist to also bag the wealth. Maybe you are referring to the commie elites only?

Communism is not really about the people, it is about destroying class difference by subjection to the rule of the proletariat which can only function with a powerful and strong central Party consisting of elites, which is what it is Really about under other guises.

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

Communism is not really about the people, it is about destroying class difference by subjection to the rule of the proletariat which can only function with a powerful and strong party consisting of elites, which is what it is Really about under other guises.

Yes, but for this to work, it needs a majority of brain-dead bottom feeder commies. The woke in the USA is trying to create a brain-dead society so that they can have communism. But it will be a flavour of communism where there is a privileged black class in the name of reparation.

 

[Moosedrool]

Class suicide in full force.

 

[Temujin]

Unpossible. We are stronk. We are utopia.

 

[Corelli]

Simple solution.

Switch to cash.

They hate it. They cant trace how much you have or where it goes.

 

[Moosedrool]

If SA and the USA are commies then so are China.

That dash of socialism is the reason for sweatshops equipped with suicide nets.

 

[Corelli]

If 70% of the country is living on wellfare, its no brainer.

The tax base has hardly grown at al, yet the people on welfare has grown through the roof, because quite honesty on the child grant you get R1800pm. Have 5 babies and you get R9000pm sitting at home. Schooling, University and Medical care is free for them, so other than food they dont have to pay for anything really. When your kids are old enough they go work and provide for you.

For the middle class its not the same. I know. I pay 2.7x more per month for medical aid, than someone at the lower scale ---for the same freaking benefits. I have to pay for my kids schooling (or I get letters of demand), I have to pay for my house, taxes, electricity and water (or more demand letters). Then I have to pay between 30-40% in tax so the poor can get it all free with zero benefit to me. I can never claim SASSA, yet I contribute big time to it. My taxes pays for schooling (yet I have to pay for my kids too), I pay for medical (but I have to have my private medical aid - forced by my company at 2.7X.

 

[itareanlnotani]

That dash of socialism is the reason for sweatshops equipped with suicide nets.

No, the money given to family for a suicide in the factories did what you'd think it would do - entice people to commit suicide so that their families would be provided for.

Perverse intent/incentives... Suicide rates dropped to (almost) zero when Foxconn stopped that practice

Chinese factory workers have incentives to kill themselves on the job

In what has to be one of the strangest financial incentives ever, and one that must be unintended, Foxconn Technology in China is paying six to 10 years of gross salary to families of its workers who commit suicide at the factory. The payments of

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Moosedrool]

No, the money given to family for a suicide in the factories did what you'd think it would do - entice people to commit suicide so that their families would be provided for.

Perverse intent/incentives... Suicide rates dropped to (almost) zero when Foxconn stopped that practice

Chinese factory workers have incentives to kill themselves on the job

In what has to be one of the strangest financial incentives ever, and one that must be unintended, Foxconn Technology in China is paying six to 10 years of gross salary to families of its workers who commit suicide at the factory. The payments of

sports.yahoo.com

So your argument is that killing yourself is a better option than working under a socialist regime? To the point where incentives had to be dropped in order to keep the slaves workers employed.

And that somehow makes everything better?

 

[itareanlnotani]

So your argument is that killing yourself is a better option under a socialist regime? To the point where incentives had to be dropped in order to keep the slave workers employed.

My argument is that when you pay people's family 15-20 times your monthly salary if you commit suicide, it creates perverse incentives.

Foxconn is actually a decent employer.

 

[Moosedrool]

My argument is that when you pay people's family 15-20 times your monthly salary if you commit suicide, it creates perverse incentives.

Foxconn is actually a decent employer.

Where do you think that money comes from?

 

[azbob]

because quite honesty on the child grant you get R1800pm. Have 5 babies and you get R9000pm sitting at home.

R1800? Sounds like nonsense. A regular child grant is R480. A disability grant is R1980.

 

[R13...]

R1800? Sounds like nonsense. A regular child grant is R480. A disability grant is R1980.