Mirror (non)Trading International 2 - The Fallout

[Snyper564]

So they have just confirmed that JS and CM basically paid the difference of the reduced balance and daily withdrawals... mmm makes you wonder just how much they have (JS and CM)... personally fund 1000+ btc... dig that hole and make it deep...

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

In the above zoom meeting, the following is noted.
1. 33:56 JS says he and Clynton have put in a large amount of their own BTC.
2. 36:32 lindtbollitjie says it was her fault, she contacted the broker to introduce the "security protocol." This is evidence of who the one is who is calling the shots.
3. 37:24 She says between JS and hubbie they have funded the withdrawals and they can get this BTC back from the brokerage account. (Now we know why the offer of increase in intro cash is being done. They want to recover what they have been forced to put into the program to stop the run on MTI. Too late, too late is the cry.
4. 38:06 "We started picking up................38:24 irregularities from our leaders,........Check the look of worry on her face at this point.
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If I was her I would also have a worried look on my face. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall and all the MTI bigwigs and all the MTI dumb followers cannot put Humpty together again. Game set and match!!!
5. 41:00 to 41:19 "I called this course today.......... because of a situation that has only come up in the last 12 hours or so and I didn't know how WE were going to deal with this with you as leaders." "I DIDN'T KNOW". She really is the queenpin of this scam allright. "And I decided" that JS, myself, Charles, Clynton, and Monica address it with you together.
6. Then comes the expected Twain-like BS. Listen as she now starts implimenting the escape and blame others scenario.
7. 41:26 > 43:28 "A HACKING attempt took place............In other words guys. Pack your bags and get ready to bail. The paw paw has hit the fan. If this situation was not so serious you could enjoy the comedy of errors that now unfolds. After the first "hacking" but non existant hacking when those guys released the first stuff they accessed on the MTI back-office which showed all of the crooks at the top of the pyramid, they or she said that new security measures had been put in place which guarantees that the program would NEVER ever be "Hacked" again.
From this point on the reporting is from the fact that their backs are to the wall of failure.

If your observation (point #3) is true, I wonder how much of what they took are they willing to put back to keep the schamm going? Are the MTI leaders that stupid that they can’t see that the goose is cooked, or do they really think there is an infinite pool of sheeples (with money) out there?

 

[Snyper564]

Stop complaining about no sleep when you making R70m a day...

 

[Decor13]

Big recruitment drive in Ghana as well with leader pastor Twum...

 

[adslrouter]

Obviously this must bar him from appearing in court for them except as a witness. Equally, any advice he gives is not unbiased. Unless they have been correct all along and we are completely wrong, when MTI collapses he will be in serious trouble in his profession.

is he an invested member?

 

[Wary GOM]

So they have just confirmed that JS and CM basically paid the difference of the reduced balance and daily withdrawals... mmm makes you wonder just how much they have (JS and CM)... personally fund 1000+ btc... dig that hole and make it deep...

It's a pity we can't get solid evidence of this to FSCA because it is evidence if not proof that income from trading cannot be supporting withdrawals. [I know we are convinced there is no trading, but need more solid evidence that this is a Ponzi.]

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

Big recruitment drive in Ghana as well with leader pastor Twum... View attachment 962656

These faces just exude confidence

 

[warrenpridgeon]

It's a pity we can't get solid evidence of this to FSCA because it is evidence if not proof that income from trading cannot be supporting withdrawals. [I know we are convinced there is no trading, but need more solid evidence that this is a Ponzi.]

It's too bad many many people cannot put 2 and 2 together and conclude that there is not trading because of:
1. Blatant lies that keep changing about how they supposedly trade.
2. Refusal to give verifiable proof of trading. Their terribly "photoshopped" video "proof" actually counterproves the point they are trying to make. It shows they are lying.
3. Refusal to give proof of BTC holdings. Cheri said in the beginning of October they were looking for a way to show the public addresses and it was what she was 100% focused on and would have it up and going by end of October.
4. Lies about payout and deposit delays.

This is without even getting into their histories or how they treat members or potential members that ask tough questions (#kickbanbuggeroff).

 

[tetrasect]

It's too bad many many people cannot put 2 and 2 together and conclude that there is not trading because of:
1. Blatant lies that keep changing about how they supposedly trade.
2. Refusal to give verifiable proof of trading. Their terribly "photoshopped" video "proof" actually counterproves the point they are trying to make. It shows they are lying.
3. Refusal to give proof of BTC holdings. Cheri said in the beginning of October they were looking for a way to show the public addresses and it was what she was 100% focused on and would have it up and going by end of October.
4. Lies about payout and deposit delays.

This is without even getting into their histories or how they treat members or potential members that ask tough questions (#kickbanbuggeroff).

And let's not forget about the audit that has been "forthcoming" for months now.

 

[expedite]

And let's not forget about the audit that has been "forthcoming" for months now.

According to Mrs Lindt it has already happened, last month I think..

 

[warrenpridgeon]

And let's not forget about the audit that has been "forthcoming" for months now.

lol

 

[Snyper564]

And let's not forget about the audit that has been "forthcoming" for months now.

Peter muller is very very busy with that

 

[Giepie1]

It's too bad many many people cannot put 2 and 2 together and conclude that there is not trading because of:
1. Blatant lies that keep changing about how .........

This whole "trading" thing keeps bothering me, so I did a couple of calculations to see what we are dealing with.

The smart guys in here, please double check my math.

According to MTI, they control more than 20 000 BTC.
Yet, they only put +/- 5% at risk with the broker. That is 20 000 x 5% = 1000 BTC

They then leverage this 1000 BTC up to 200.
Thus, they (the super smart BOT) control 200 000 BTC worth of exposure.
In USD terms that is $ 18000 * 200 000 BTC = $ 3.6 B

Now, according to https://www.worldcoinindex.com/derivatives , Daily average Volume traded (of crypto derivatives) is just under $ 40b per day, with open interest averaging $ 10b per day.

So, MTI can control 9% (3.6 / 40) of total turnover, or 36% (3.6 / 10) of open interest at any given time.

 

[newby_investor]

If your observation (point #3) is true, I wonder how much of what they took are they willing to put back to keep the schamm going? Are the MTI leaders that stupid that they can’t see that the goose is cooked, or do they really think there is an infinite pool of sheeples (with money) out there?

The wool was pulled over their eyes too! They were lied to by the creator of the bot! JS and CM are totally innocent and would never knowingly defraud people!

 

[ShirleyJames]

The wool was pulled over their eyes too! They were lied to by the creator of the bot! JS and CM are totally innocent and would never knowingly defraud people!

I think you may be correct ....Historically they do have an impeccable record according to them, They were after all voted the best MLM company in the World*

* By their staff and members

 

[psssst]

It's a pity we can't get solid evidence of this to FSCA because it is evidence if not proof that income from trading cannot be supporting withdrawals. [I know we are convinced there is no trading, but need more solid evidence that this is a Ponzi

It's a pity we can't get solid evidence of this to FSCA because it is evidence if not proof that income from trading cannot be supporting withdrawals. [I know we are convinced there is no trading, but need more solid evidence that this is a

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

If the FSCA suspects that MTI has a reasonable chance of being a Ponzi, then MTI will have to prove to the FSCA that they are not - which we all know is not possible.

I believe the FSCA is already well beyond the point of no return and have stated this publicly more than once. So bye-bye MTI.

The fact that MTI is busy failing all on their own, is merely a Binary Bonus - to us.

 

[LJ1234]

If the FSCA suspects that MTI has a reasonable chance of being a Ponzi, then MTI will have to prove to the FSCA that they are not - which we all know is not possible.

I believe the FSCA is already well beyond the point of no return and have stated this publicly more than once. So bye-bye MTI.

The fact that MTI is busy failing all on their own, is merely a Binary Bonus - to us.

lots of popcorn needed to watch this!

 

[gottagoon]

 

[Decor13]

Ja, right!!!