Mirror (non)Trading International 2 - The Fallout

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Bsouthafrica

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Also if you check trading pool balance according to mti tonight it’s 23 000 and some.... according to the mti bti address it’s only 3300 plus huge difference



same goes for the so called 250000+ members , if this was true we would not be able to keep up with following and tracking activities.
I know Lindtbolletjie ate all the people that was active on telegram groups and then asked admin to delete the names etc.
This is based on a overview /forecast by myself , so ive been monitoring total users on the previous chat groups, FB , whatsapp , telegrams.and at most 10k or 20k on one telegram group , no wherr one notice high number of likes , following or any source of interaction of high number of users.
Members complaining most of the time first timers and then they disappear- the real ones are either blocked or account suspended

1. The broker is non existent - his worse than the Swart Luiperd
2. Js en lindtbol huby paid people from their own pockets- with what money? Who did they paid? How much did they paid all of this in a bull run. Using your so called cash and give it to people while the btc price is running - really?
3.The impact of the raid by fsca - in a world where the cloud is the altimate storage solution, external hardrives , daily backups especially if its trading or financial or market driven business
4.Statement runs thats more active than the underlying ...meaning statement runs more active than bitcoin
5,A support team that you never interacted or spoke to but they are groing and increased by 20+ people with no jobs being advertised by MTi and no one besides the so called leaders working for MTi ...im not buying that one of us not be able to cross paths on social media with any of the supoort personal- meaning they non existent.
6.why mti try so hard to convince all about the stellenbosch office, if u have nothing to hide why try so hard to proof something.
7.all these charities JS is all of a sudden supporting and sponsorship millions while thenhead of communications and marketing is non existent.
8,btc prices on statement not following same price trend as other exchanges trading data indicate
9.P/L calc on statement not making sense
10.We have a bot that trade but stilmwe have days that only indicate a few hours of trading almost like a third of the day.

why no name on the farmer initiative- no name, no location, no third party , no date , no representative nothing. Just update saying nothing

All of the above could be put to bed with factual data. But nothing because their is nothing.

the small group of people that are managing the mti scam was cought with their pants down and totally overthrown by the high number of transactions caused by the bull run and increased of members.l numbers and complains hence the reason lindtboll block or suspend accounts Because its a Manuel setup (one coin for you one coin for me) they the mti group overwelmed with all activities and the raid did impact them because they operate manuel system. 85myn transactions or line items my a&se.

One can go on and on but the fact that we dont have the facts doesn’t mean its not factual.
just too many validations
You are so right! I have been following this to get my family to take their money out. At work I have just started dealing with databases and coding and there is no way they have an automated system .... no way. Plus the reports don’t add up at all! If you were trading at high leverage you would Need everything secure and working and backed up to the cloud.
 

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You are so right! I have been following this to get my family to take their money out. At work I have just started dealing with databases and coding and there is no way they have an automated system .... no way. Plus the reports don’t add up at all! If you were trading at high leverage you would Need everything secure and working and backed up to the cloud.
What made you get into this if I may ask? And how long did it take for you to get your cash out?
 

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Can we get some verification of this? Which radio station was it and who did you speak to @Bsouthafrica ?
They played all the podcasts over the week of donations the big donations like investec got a radio thank you and they donated like 70 000 .... if over a million was donated they would have had a special mention .... I went thru the daily podcasts and the donations big and small all add up to what the radio listeners donated no money from mti. I contacted the norma contact email for jacaranda and no one can give me proof of payment.
 

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They played all the podcasts over the week of donations the big donations like investec got a radio thank you and they donated like 70 000 .... if over a million was donated they would have had a special mention .... I went thru the daily podcasts and the donations big and small all add up to what the radio listeners donated no money from mti. I contacted the norma contact email for jacaranda and no one can give me proof of payment.
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The balding grey haired chap is Nico van der Merwe
All upstanding, honest, well-fed citizens who undoubtedly complain to High Heaven about the how bad corruption is in the country, how poorly the police etc do their jobs and so on. These are all the complaints I too have about things. The big difference is that I don't make my money from drawing people into scams where they ultimately will be fleeced. Hopefully the bitcoinaires are so happy with MTI that they will leave all their ill-gotten gains in the pool until too late.
 

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All upstanding, honest, well-fed citizens who undoubtedly complain to High Heaven about the how bad corruption is in the country, how poorly the police etc do their jobs and so on. These are all the complaints I too have about things. The big difference is that I don't make my money from drawing people into scams where they ultimately will be fleeced. Hopefully the bitcoinaires are so happy with MTI that they will leave all their ill-gotten gains in the pool until too late.
It is a strange thing; I have always regarded Nico as being pretty intelligent and you can bet your bottom dollar he has made plans. Some others ... not so much, exactly as you say.
 

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We need to see what we can find on AI Vizion. Their website lists MTI, Finalmente, CashFX, and Crowd 1.

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We need to see what we can find on AI Vizion. Their website lists MTI, Finalmente, CashFX, and Crowd 1.

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My first pass on Ai Vizion didn't make a very good impression, although it must be said that I certainly haven't spent much time on it. Something that made me feel that it might be necessary to do more investigation were I really meaning to use them, was that their broker is supposed to be registered with CySEC (the Cyprus SEC) but a quick scan of CySEC listed brokers didn't show this one.
 

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OK, did some digging.

At least 2 of the people behind AI Vizion are JP and Andre Erasmus. Please add AI Vizion and these 2 character to the dishonest wiki.


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Clicking on the MTI link takes you to an MTI singup page where we can see the name with which this referral link is associated


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Lekker, multiple accounts

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Bsouthafrica

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Sorry but who said this is the MTI btc address? To date we have had no concrete proof of any btc address where did you get this one?
Hi they posted a bitcoin address for donations for the farmers - I checked that bitcoin on the address and the amount of donations came to $3296 dollars and then it was transfered to a another bitcoin address - and that address shows hundreds of transactions to the values posted of incoming 25 000 bitcoins and then has lots of little withdrawals (payouts for bonuses) and big withdrawals so I pressume its the main MTI account bticoin address - on the bitcoin checker I used it has that address also flagged as a scam from 15 people. but the balance is 3300 plus coins no where near that they are suppose to have.
 

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Hi they posted a bitcoin address for donations for the farmers - I checked that bitcoin on the address and the amount of donations came to $3296 dollars and then it was transfered to a another bitcoin address - and that address shows hundreds of transactions to the values posted of incoming 25 000 bitcoins and then has lots of little withdrawals (payouts for bonuses) and big withdrawals so I pressume its the main MTI account bticoin address - on the bitcoin checker I used it has that address also flagged as a scam from 15 people. but the balance is 3300 plus coins no where near that they are suppose to have.

Just keep in mind, the total "incoming btc" to a wallet is a running total.

So, if you put 20 btc into a wallet, then take out 10 btc, and then put that 10 btc in again it will show that the wallet had received 30 btc in total.
 

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Hi they posted a bitcoin address for donations for the farmers - I checked that bitcoin on the address and the amount of donations came to $3296 dollars and then it was transfered to a another bitcoin address - and that address shows hundreds of transactions to the values posted of incoming 25 000 bitcoins and then has lots of little withdrawals (payouts for bonuses) and big withdrawals so I pressume its the main MTI account bticoin address - on the bitcoin checker I used it has that address also flagged as a scam from 15 people. but the balance is 3300 plus coins no where near that they are suppose to have.
Is that wallet address on whale checker. It shows the massive movemenuts of crypto
 

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Just keep in mind, the total "incoming btc" to a wallet is a running total.

So, if you put 20 btc into a wallet, then take out 10 btc, and then put that 10 btc in again it will show that the wallet had received 30 btc in total.
I did not know they that then this is really the perfect scam - I hate them even more! they could have only 100 btc to start with and just put in and out so it looks like new investors - this is sick.
 
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