Mirror (non)Trading International 2 - The Fallout

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Waldman Jordaan

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I love the idea of Mars, but being boring: When payouts stop altogether, either because they have been given a "ceases & desist" or because they invent some reason.
For whatever reason MTI finally stops pay-outs. That is when a halt is put on the Co's operations and normally an Investor or otherwise will make an application to declare the Co bankrupt. Then the Master of the Court will decide and appoint the necessary applicants/lawyers to handle the Bankruptcy. Everything is then frozen.

The game is up when MTI is unable or unwilling to pay withdrawals.

Unfortunately this seems to be partly true already and from Members themselves, it is evident that not all withdrawal requests are being paid out, especially some of the large withdrawal requests.
 

PsyWulf

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Thanks, the photo I can understand, always show right way around.

But this morning I had to take a selfie for SARS using phone's front cam, and the pic was wrong way around. This got me thinking Zoom might do the same, which it does on my side of the screen. I don't know if the projected image is right-way around.
You can swap the view/mirror in settings but default is right way around for the remote viewer and inverse for yourself
 

JohnStarr

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Thanks, the photo I can understand, always show right way around.

But this morning I had to take a selfie for SARS using phone's front cam, and the pic was wrong way around. This got me thinking Zoom might do the same, which it does on my side of the screen. I don't know if the projected image is right-way around.
Zoom does mirror. Image is the other way around.
 

newby_investor

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How will we know that payouts are stopped though? We've had complaints about delays for a little while now, I suspect folks will mostly come to the Telegram group to complain. So we don't see how many small payouts are happening.

Most likely they will use stall tactics to keep appearances up for a few more days after the last payout happens. So putting an actual date on it will actually be challenging.

Unless the FSCA or some authorities take some definitive action.
 

PsyWulf

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How will we know that payouts are stopped though? We've had complaints about delays for a little while now, I suspect folks will mostly come to the Telegram group to complain. So we don't see how many small payouts are happening.
The group will suddenly evacuate maaaany complaining members
 

DesertWrangler

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All this talk about Johann’s location.... I thought we had heaps of IT guys on here!? I’ve watched the Bourne movies... I know you guys can pinpoint someone’s location from the IP address of the pacemaker of the guy who sold Johann that label-less bottle of water. So stop slacking! Now’s your time to shine!
 

Bsouthafrica

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I am calling this week for MTI to close - everyone is going to try to withdraw and already 6000 trying.
If the magic bot is alive and trading they are making 347 coins per week, if it is not they are losing (money they owe on trading bonus etc) 903 coins a week. if everyone tries to withdraw it's closed this week. Calling it the 10th of December...tomorrow :)
my maths is terrible but did a spreadsheet like an idiot I am - I know this is a scam and I hate them for it but without emotion the figures cant lie.
So it comes down to the trading bot/trades being real we will see this week - if it is real I will be the first from this group to join. but 99% sure it is not :)
 

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Spxdxrbxtxs

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Thanks for finally confirming your own involvement with MTI. You probably would have had the same numbers of replies to your comments if you had been that open at the start but obfuscation seems another characteristic of someone becoming one of the MTI family.

By now all your questions and concerns have been answered yet you still are on the fence. Unlike MTI, we don't want to lose you - perhaps reading posts here might help you salvage your reputation with people with whom you have (apparently) discussed concerns about MTI. However, your last few posts seem to be returning to points that have already been covered, so unless you have something new to add, perhaps you should now sit quietly and just listen?

Why this constant double speak? You don't answer direct questions with clear answers... always this type of answer.

I know of people who are "invested in MTI" without having done any blockchain transactions because someone else funded their account because they paid that person ZAR and that person then did the blockchain transactions.

So which is it? Do you have a funded account in MTI? Are you an active member?

gensix replies in a way that leaves stuff open to interpretation and then gets annoyed when people interpret stuff.

You are so off track......some sensible people explained my involvement earlier on. I dont want to be disparaging, but some on here appear to have sound comprehension skills. Review their explanation please.

You're not an MTI member but heavily invested. So in effect, you are. Or aren't you? And if you're NOT a member, how are you heavily invested? Flip-flop. Both sides of the fence and all...

I think that is dumb. No need to treat people the same way MTI treats their non-disciples. It's good to get a different perspective to the scheme.

This person is heavily invested and kind of defending this scheme. And then not appearing too as they aren't a member. And then defending again. Flip-flop without indicating how they're invested.

Okay - listen. This guy who may or may not be an unqualified lie detector is not invested with MTI in any manner other than that if it doesn't go down like a pod of whales he's going to look like an arse.
Which is a debatable outcome that he might have achieved regardless since he's managed to alternately make points and alienate people with each successive post.
He does seem interested in assisting, even though he has a convoluted sense of speech.

If, on the other hand, I'm wrong and it's a lindt ball, it's not doing any harm other than providing comedic relief to the silent watchers on here. Might as well let it live.
 

PsyWulf

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So lets summarize:

Hard facts
* Shirt buttons/direction matches a previous picture where the text direction is correct meaning the shirt is facing the same direction in both the video and the photo

Probable correlatory for direction
* Bottle top direction
* Wedding ring location

Indications of foreign location given the directionality as established earlier
* Odd bus+Axle combo
* Traffic direction is different from South Africa,namely Right side of the road
* Daylight times mismatch for a Live transmission

Other suspicious possible indicators of misdirection
* Golf day publishing time on facebook (timeline mismatches)
* Beard growth (timeline mismatches)
* Water bottle label possibly removed (Obscuring location)
 

Spxdxrbxtxs

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I think for the deadpool to be fair a definition must be set up to properly define the winner

We're all very aware that even when the FSCA says "MTI is a pyramid scheme GGWP" the next step are
* the pre-eminent crypto legal team and super senior ultra director of miscommunications will disagree wholeheartedly with the interpretation because nobody understands crypto really
* publish a telegram to rally the troops of their impending legal challenge (which won't happen ever)
* then they'll claim there's a political agenda and the banking cabal have bribed the FSCA to casually misunderstand crypto which isn't an actual asset that can be stolen like apples or cars
* Then they'll convert all their crypto to an ICO token being developed on Mars,which means it does not require regulation on Earth obviously
* The hawks and SAPS will seize and shut down the business eventually

So at which point will you call it dead dead?
In my vote I've called for the moment one of the bigwigs says the money is gone.
Anything after that is just MTI v2.
 

r00igev@@r

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I tend to agree. The video of Johann somewhere outside of SA sort of confirms it for me. The exit has begun.

Now if the Hawks can just swoop down on Lindtbolletjie before she and Mr. Johannesburg also makes a duck, that would be great. Her inevitable excuse of "I didn't know Johann is a skelm, he's such a nice guy, and he wears such nice turquoise shirts" will be hard to sell this time.
Johann has been kidnapped by Steven Twain. Bwahahahahahahaha.

OMG. The MTI sheep are the most gullible poephols on the planet.
 
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