Mirror (non)Trading International 2 - The Fallout

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genfour

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If you want to wait for the FSCA, then you must think there is a chance it's legit. If you know it's a scam, why the waiting?
LOL -- what do you suggest we do other than wait, post ridiculous hypothesis and predictions on mybb

I joined that club, but it doesn't seem to be helping much.
 

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Some weird things going on on the site. I have a fake account, that I created just after the breach.(hoping there were some more easy pickings with their security holes) Couldn't log in for a while, and now the account works again.

Suddenly I have 903 people in my team. WTF. But I don't have any binary gainz, or whatever they call it when your team's money bubbles up to you.
 

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If you want to wait for the FSCA, then you must think there is a chance it's legit. If you know it's a scam, why the waiting?
I am also somewhat baffled at how "choosing to wait for the FSCA report" stretches to then you must think there is a chance it's legit - could you help me bridge that divide
 

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They are not waiting... They are criminals and they are already leaving SA to places where they can continue stealing people's money...
 

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Anyone got some more screenshots form the Telegram groups today?

Didn't Cheri say yesterday that the 6000 outstanding withdrawals would be processed in about 90 mins?
 

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They are not waiting... They are criminals and they are already leaving SA to places where they can continue stealing people's money...
Unfortunately, none of us, and not even those here with 10000 posts have managed to identify the needed smoking gun, we wait and hope that the FSCA report does.
 

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Unfortunately, none of us, and not even those here with 10000 posts have managed to identify the needed smoking gun, we wait and hope that the FSCA report does.

The fabricated "evidence of trading" provided by MTI along with the data leak says otherwise.
 

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Unfortunately, none of us, and not even those here with 10000 posts have managed to identify the needed smoking gun, we wait and hope that the FSCA report does.
Well of course they have. Just because you don't regard it is a critical flaw does not make it a non-event. It is a big one.
Secondly, you still say sweet bugger-all really, you just waffle on with snide comments.
Is this a personal attack? No, it's an observation.
 

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The fabricated "evidence of trading" provided by MTI along with the data leak says otherwise.
I meant, tangible de facto evidence that can shut this down, Everything in the public domain would seem to be enough, but thus far apparently not, I think the closest we get to potential action is the FSCA report
 

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I'm certainly no expert when it comes to criminal investigations but what I have heard is that typically criminal investigators don't like to waste their own time. They won't attempt to make cases around small offences, they'll let them stack and attempt to gather enough evidence over time so as to ensure that any charges that are laid will stick and the guilty parties will have to face the full extent of the law for their transgressions as a result.

Atleast, that's how I figure investigations like this to work. MTI done some bad already but is it enough to bury them? I think when the paw paw eventually hits the fan then it will be a large enough issue to do just that.
So sending a email to the zondo commission with some Christmas bonus fresh allegations indicating their might be a connection between lindbolletjie with her gang and the Guptas tapping SOE’s cash and funnel it out with crypto- just follow the coin and server!!!

let them hunt them down and give Miss Hofmeyer the honor to cross examine Lindbolletjie...... i will give up a bit of my freedom to experience how she will put it to her and how she will give it back. Lol
 

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I meant, tangible de facto evidence that can shut this down, Everything in the public domain would seem to be enough, but thus far apparently not, I think the closest we get to potential action is the FSCA report

Courts make decisions on two principles , depending on if its a criminal or civil case :

Beyond a reasonable doubt
On a balance of probability

There is a reason its not "beyond all doubt" or "caught red handed".

The reason is that the guilty party is not going to give you the concrete evidence you need to convict them. They are going to try to hide/destroy it.

MTI has not produced their financials , bitcoin addresses for verification , provided proof of trading or proof of liquidity , or provided an audit for obvious reasons.

There will be no "caught red handed" moment here , and you don't need "concrete" evidence to prove guilt.
 

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We are reviewing the information as it becomes available and will involve the South African Police Service if the discrepancies are confirmed.

Thats all I'm saying - it appears quite difficult to confirm the discrepancies, and that the most authoritative attempt at doing just that, will likely be the imminent FSCA report.
 

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Unfortunately, none of us, and not even those here with 10000 posts have managed to identify the needed smoking gun, we wait and hope that the FSCA report does.
Ja, see this is where MTI falls down. It's a joke... :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: . We see you for what you are... All the bs and cheerleading doesn't change that. History and the block chain speak more to your stupidity or ignorance than anything on this board.
 

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Yes, perhaps you might consult a dictionary - Plausible definitely does not imply fact!

If you need some help:

It is evident that, it is certainly so , and other such imply a factful observation

It is plausible , implies it seems probable, or appears so - I am not sure how you define fact nor fiction for that matter.

Is there a recipe for crafting Elucidite anywhere in the spiral?

Perhaps you might want to eloquently elucidate.
Its too early for this .
 

genfour

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We are reviewing the information as it becomes available and will involve the South African Police Service if the discrepancies are confirmed.

Thats all I'm saying - it appears quite difficult to confirm the discrepancies, and that the most authoritative attempt at doing just that, will likely be the imminent FSCA report.
Just as you don't need a caught red handed moment, you also cannot act on the basis of "those returns don't seem possible"
 
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