Mirror (non)Trading International 2 - The Fallout

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Venator said:
HAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA oh my, she certainly does fit the profile of the type of narcissistic delusional whackjob charlatan who'd be "invested" in MTI, huh?


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If she's a psychic, could she not see the end game of this whole scam? Also, being a psychic and messenger of god (not not God!) don't mix. They're not of the same thing.
 
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Hi Guys , new here. Been an active MTI user since August 2020 , even though I joined up during lockdown. The last 5 withdrawals before the server upgrade have been great and were processed smoothly. Im Slowly pulling all of my funds but struggling for 8 days now with a withdrawal. You know the story. Support is bad and I have already been threatened by one of the well-known top leaders in Cape Town regarding my attitude in the telegram chats from which I was removed upon making a request to me. Just hoping that I can empty my main account before anything really bad happens. At least one member who belongs to a separate group has been waiting 17 days, and another 13 days for funds to clear. What I have noticed is that roughly R115 000 000 and counting has left the trading pool since the beginning of the week, and just today ,about R12 000 000 has left. Will keep you guys updated if that is okay.
 
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Once more I can't just use an emoji to agree - every thing you say is so accurate.

Having saved and also invested pension money, I now sit with a rental property with tenants who have been destroyed by lockdown and simply cannot pay rent. Of course we can't even consider evicting them - it's not their fault that they have been retrenched, so goodbye that income. Savings now returning whatever low % it is so have to mine capital for living expenses.

Alternative investments are imperative before my cash-flow burns me out. I looked at a thing called Praesiduim Wealth and was suspicious. Was offered a "front row seat" in investing in Vaultage and it looked far too much like just giving away a crypto investment to someone who just sounded to public spirited to ring true. Then started looking at MTI last year and wasn't happy but also found the first part of this thread. SO I have been lucky but could probably have been scammed by someone cleverer than the 3 I avoided. That's why I have sympathy for people who go into schemes out of desperation and absolute disgust for the likes of Cheri et al.
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You and I could be twins.
 
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ZA_Chamber said:
If she's a psychic, could she not see the end game of this whole scam? Also, being a psychic and messenger of god (not not God!) don't mix. They're not of the same thing.
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To borrow an explanation:
She has detached retina of her Second Sight. Can only see things that are good and ponzitive. Bad things have to happen so we can learn from our mistakes.
 
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What conditions are neccessary for citizens arrest for financial fraud for these mti top management today? Is there enough evidence do that?
 
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What conditions are neccessary for citizens arrest for financial fraud for these mti top management today? Is there enough evidence do that?
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According to these 2 links, a justifiable belief would be sufficient, although you can only do so for suspected fraud up to R1.5k.

What is a Citizen Arrest?

Harfield Village community business listing website sponsored by Norgarb Properties
www.harfield-village.co.za www.harfield-village.co.za

OFFENCE

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Spxdxrbxtxs said:
According to these 2 links, a justifiable belief would be sufficient, although you can only do so for suspected fraud up to R1.5k.

What is a Citizen Arrest?

Harfield Village community business listing website sponsored by Norgarb Properties
www.harfield-village.co.za www.harfield-village.co.za

OFFENCE

static.pmg.org.za
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Thank you!

If I just knew someone who was close to them who lost the money, they could be sent in. I see according to the pmg link you sent it is 1500 to 20 000 fraud. Screenshot_20201216-145617.png
 
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Wary GOM said:
Once more I can't just use an emoji to agree - every thing you say is so accurate.

Having saved and also invested pension money, I now sit with a rental property with tenants who have been destroyed by lockdown and simply cannot pay rent. Of course we can't even consider evicting them - it's not their fault that they have been retrenched, so goodbye that income. Savings now returning whatever low % it is so have to mine capital for living expenses.

Alternative investments are imperative before my cash-flow burns me out. I looked at a thing called Praesiduim Wealth and was suspicious. Was offered a "front row seat" in investing in Vaultage and it looked far too much like just giving away a crypto investment to someone who just sounded to public spirited to ring true. Then started looking at MTI last year and wasn't happy but also found the first part of this thread. SO I have been lucky but could probably have been scammed by someone cleverer than the 3 I avoided. That's why I have sympathy for people who go into schemes out of desperation and absolute disgust for the likes of Cheri et al.
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Sjoe, there are so many of us in a similar situation - good people trapped by a corrupt Government on the one side, Big Business on the opposite side and Shills in the middle like sharks. So pretty much shark bait.

Welcome to the middle class.

In my post which you replied to I would like to add:

I'm not defending the people who make Ponzitivity a career.

Schemes like MTI wants the people like @Def-e-nition 's friends to invest. Those are the investors they are after, not the small-fry putting in $100 and then taking out $500 before you know it. They need the small-fry to get to the big fish.

The big fish normally make minimum fuss and normally do not recruit either. The big fish will normally put their money in and just draw living expenses on a regular basis. The big fish don't prowl the internet looking for gossip on their 'investment'. Because the big fish don't recruit, they may never come into contact with anyone explaining to them that this is all a scam - for if that happened they most probably would have checked into the validity and then taken out their money.

The small fry just get hyped to the point where they are pretty convincing. They might say to the big fish that: "I've put all my money in and have been getting consistent returns for 6 months now - without any issues"

Well that may well be true, but the big fish probably do not hear that the small fry only put in $100 ("all his money"), have taken that out already, nor that he is recruiting like heck to get an income.

Anyway, so it goes. Most (if not all) the recruiters have taken out all their input moneys and more, so have nothing or very little to lose. They also don't want to lose the binary bonusses which they are getting from their downline, so they will keep on singing MTI's praises.

So all the Ponzi owners have to do is, keep the small fry happy, put a hook in them and they know the small fry will catch a big fish here and there.

The big losers will be the 'big fish'. By the time they get suspicious - its already to late.
 
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Matata said:
What conditions are neccessary for citizens arrest for financial fraud for these mti top management today? Is there enough evidence do that?
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An application to liquidate MTI from one or more MTI Member who is owed capital, is the only recourse IMHO.

There are a lot of Members with large Withdrawals being stalled and that in itself should be enough grounds to apply (and will probably be granted or at least go into business rescue when it will become abundantly clear that its a Ponzi).
 
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Matata said:
What conditions are neccessary for citizens arrest for financial fraud for these mti top management today?
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I have no clue of the legalities, but in practical terms you'll need XXXL handcuffs, the main whale's wrists are thicker than my thighs

you may also need a huge swimming pool to contain the whale, they breathe above water but need to be kept moist to stay healthy
 
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Venator said:
This guy...this f*&^%ing POS just hops from one scheme to the next...curently touting Finiko and this new DAISY crap.

Seriously...how many times? How many times do these bottom-feeding scum (yes YOU BTC CHASER!) need to get away with peddling this crap?

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Yes, this one is gonna be huge.
All the big scammers of that previous scam called "UsiTech" are gathering again and are already promoting it heavily.
We just started a new NW-group for it ;) (link below)

www.facebook.com

D.AI.SY Scam - Now What!? | Facebook

An anti-scam group dedicated to shining a bright spotlight on the usual Ponzi Pimps & Reff Whores who promote this shite.
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