Mirror (non)Trading International 2 - The Fallout

[Def-e-nition]

ANyone got The source for This Bible verse Somewhere ?

"Good day family...

Trust you all doing well?

Very cold weather here and alot of snow otherwise we doing great.

As from today we as teams will no longer be promoting Mirror Trading International (MTI) to grow your bitcoins
Untill they are 100% back on track and glitches are sorted out etc.

This caused alot of business interference for people that building this like a business etc... and that are depending for this as income.

There is to much frustrations caused by all the downtimes etc

I will withdraw most of my bitcoins out to external wallets like Exodus or save exchanges, binance or like South Africa altcoin trader etc... and leave 200 dollars in for now in MTI

Its stays each member choice what they want to do with there funds. And calculating there own risks management etc.

Hope all withdrawals will be sorted out ASAP as well ...

We are all in this together en lets hope they be back on track very soon. And we can go full steam ahead again

It looks like we can do withdrawals from our wallets if the site is not worked on etc.

Also keep an eye on the telegram groups aswell for the latest updates any news etc.

Be safe.. "

Sent to Me by someone not invested, but Who's boet , is .
ANd owes Him cash .

Lovely .
Lies , Lies .....All , Lies .....

THis Is . Nuts.

 

[Wary GOM]

She learned that by following THIS thread.

Yup. The genx's might have helped by prodding us when we slowed down. Hopefully Cheri's comment will set some angry bitcoin collectors onto Johann.

 

[Decor13]

Cant seem to join the meeting?

Zoom call, they say would be made available to selected people and team leaders, here it is:

So basically this was said:

Discussing who broker is... Short and sweet, but no answer.
"Anything can be held against us, if complicit, but we have integrity....."
"We sacrificed our careers to be part of mti.
We stand for the truth...
We would love to give hope, but can't...
Next week we will know more..."
We will share everything that is accurate...
"We are not apologizing, we are in it for right reasons....you can't blame us..."
Gerald: "I saw proof that Johan left the country, Nerina dropped him off...
We have protocol in place now...
Don't sign up people now..."
"I pray Johan is alive, to get hold of him..
We had a spiritual connection with him..."

Johan Kruger: I had a conversation with Johan on Sunday, he worked very hard and sounded excited...
Tuesday no messages went through...
He usually answers immediately...
I asked Nerina what is going on..
Did not hear anything...
Now he is missing....
We are looking at leads to find him...
Regulators upset me...
Location was disclosed...
They did that and it's a safety risk...
So regulators spread the location...(sic)
We can only make sure to stand by Johan...
If anybody knows anything, send it to leaders and Charlie Ward...
Anybody in South America help us with info...
Board will take control now, we stand wth them....
Stay calm and dont push false hope..

Your money is gone...muted!!

"Keep your opinions to yourself...
Keep clear head...."

Jannie: We have no info, board has more info ..
Office closed now for year....
Only holiday time skeleton staff..
Development guys says server is down, to many people....

Cor:. No more info from me..
Year has been hectic ..
Mti gave hope...
Nobody would scam people here...
I am shocked that he is missing...
Zoom call did not give away anything and i can't believe he would run away..
I feel responsible for people under me, but we can only share info that are facts .
200 messages, i can't answer them, just too much...
Leaders here are wonderful...will go to war with them...
Stay calm...

Davie: still optimistic...
We are calm, Johan is being prayed for by us and many more...
I ask you to pray at 3 this after noon for Johan....

Werner: question....online people say prosecution....please answer can it happen...

Marinus: Personally, I think we can only help and serve....no definate answer on this...
Spanish groups must investigate where Johan is....

Marinus: People say money might be gone....we know that you are emotional... Bells took out, people say...
Figures that Bells took out is nonsense....
We profited but, we were in it for right reasons, like you...
Don't throw stones...
I invite people to contact me, what they say is not true...

BC:. From Dubai.....money is safe?

Johan Cronje: When is systems back up...
Can we get ian investigator to find Johan...
Answer: They have pic of Johan, members must find him, we need to speak to him..he is key for business...
That is not what we want to hear...where is our money ..

Marinus:. There are measures to connect to traders, we will then know...

Johnny: Why did he go to Brazil..
Don't know, ...
Ignatius is close to Johan, did he hear from Johan...

Marinus: No, he is playing tennis ii CPT...
Internet is lying about figures that I withdrew....
Invites people to phone him...

Russel: Why is corporate so late in announcements...
Corporate is waiting for Ulrich to bring out statement...

Deon:. Agree with Russel, we appreciate you, but we need corporate info...
Leaders should give progress everyday at fixed time....
We can't get in back office for info..
Clynton needs to speak ..
Clynton does not talk... he is background person ..


Van zyl:. Where is the server?

Claudette:. I feel for family...
I believe in Johan, he can't be malicious ..
Why are we talking about business in past...
Fear causes it...

Gerald: 30000 people under me...
Facebook made private because of threats...

You knew what was coming...mute!

Marinus:. People are angry, i understand, but they can't say we knew..
We have integrity...

Jaco: Broker trade 300?

Marinus: We have seen emails from them, so they exist...

Max: C...?folded, only one person knew code, is it the same here..
People are still waiting

Gerald: No

Gerald: No further questions...

Vee:. Btc Global, was same story, what us going on, nobody wants to..mute

Marinus: We are just members, cant
answer those questions...
Talk about pool...last withdraw..2300 btc, we dont know more...

Good afternoon to everybody...

 

[warrenpridgeon]

Gerald Lassen? 30 000 people!!?? Wow...

If each person put in $100 that's a total of R45 000 000 in his downline. Wonder how many were level 1 referrals for him (i.e. signup bonuses he got). He must have been SMASHING the P1/P2 and binary bonuses with that many people below him.

 

[MONTHEBIFF733B]

Zoom call, they say would be made available to selected people and team leaders, here it is:

So basically this was said:

Discussing who broker is... Short and sweet, but no answer.
"Anything can be held against us, if complicit, but we have integrity....."
"We sacrificed our careers to be part of mti.
We stand for the truth...
We would love to give hope, but can't...
Next week we will know more..."
We will share everything that is accurate...
"We are not apologizing, we are in it for right reasons....you can't blame us..."
Gerald: "I saw proof that Johan left the country, Nerina dropped him off...
We have protocol in place now...
Don't sign up people now..."
"I pray Johan is alive, to get hold of him..
We had a spiritual connection with him..."

Johan Kruger: I had a conversation with Johan on Sunday, he worked very hard and sounded excited...
Tuesday no messages went through...
He usually answers immediately...
I asked Nerina what is going on..
Did not hear anything...
Now he is missing....
We are looking at leads to find him...
Regulators upset me...
Location was disclosed...
They did that and it's a safety risk...
So regulators spread the location...(sic)
We can only make sure to stand by Johan...
If anybody knows anything, send it to leaders and Charlie Ward...
Anybody in South America help us with info...
Board will take control now, we stand wth them....
Stay calm and dont push false hope..

Your money is gone...muted!!

"Keep your opinions to yourself...
Keep clear head...."

Jannie: We have no info, board has more info ..
Office closed now for year....
Only holiday time skeleton staff..
Development guys says server is down, to many people....

Cor:. No more info from me..
Year has been hectic ..
Mti gave hope...
Nobody would scam people here...
I am shocked that he is missing...
Zoom call did not give away anything and i can't believe he would run away..
I feel responsible for people under me, but we can only share info that are facts .
200 messages, i can't answer them, just too much...
Leaders here are wonderful...will go to war with them...
Stay calm...

Davie: still optimistic...
We are calm, Johan is being prayed for by us and many more...
I ask you to pray at 3 this after noon for Johan....

Werner: question....online people say prosecution....please answer can it happen...

Marinus: Personally, I think we can only help and serve....no definate answer on this...
Spanish groups must investigate where Johan is....

Marinus: People say money might be gone....we know that you are emotional... Bells took out, people say...
Figures that Bells took out is nonsense....
We profited but, we were in it for right reasons, like you...
Don't throw stones...
I invite people to contact me, what they say is not true...

BC:. From Dubai.....money is safe?

Johan Cronje: When is systems back up...
Can we get ian investigator to find Johan...
Answer: They have pic of Johan, members must find him, we need to speak to him..he is key for business...
That is not what we want to hear...where is our money ..

Marinus:. There are measures to connect to traders, we will then know...

Johnny: Why did he go to Brazil..
Don't know, ...
Ignatius is close to Johan, did he hear from Johan...

Marinus: No, he is playing tennis ii CPT...
Internet is lying about figures that I withdrew....
Invites people to phone him...

Russel: Why is corporate so late in announcements...
Corporate is waiting for Ulrich to bring out statement...

Deon:. Agree with Russel, we appreciate you, but we need corporate info...
Leaders should give progress everyday at fixed time....
We can't get in back office for info..
Clynton needs to speak ..
Clynton does not talk... he is background person ..


Van zyl:. Where is the server?

Claudette:. I feel for family...
I believe in Johan, he can't be malicious ..
Why are we talking about business in past...
Fear causes it...

Gerald: 30000 people under me...
Facebook made private because of threats...

You knew what was coming...mute!

Marinus:. People are angry, i understand, but they can't say we knew..
We have integrity...

Jaco: Broker trade 300?

Marinus: We have seen emails from them, so they exist...

Max: C...?folded, only one person knew code, is it the same here..
People are still waiting

Gerald: No

Gerald: No further questions...

Vee:. Btc Global, was same story, what us going on, nobody wants to..mute

Marinus: We are just members, cant
answer those questions...
Talk about pool...last withdraw..2300 btc, we dont know more...

Good afternoon to everybody...

But Marinus, youre a fckn maths teacher! A MATHS TEACHER WHO DID THE “WE ONLY TRADE WITH 3%” INTERVIEW!!!



So hoe far does that integrity stretch bra??? How far did your integrity take you in your due diligence? A firm handshake? A gentle yet resolute look in the eye?



WHY NOT DO THE MATH??????

 

[warrenpridgeon]

But Marinus, youre a fckn maths teacher! A MATHS TEACHER WHO DID THE “WE ONLY TRADE WITH 3%” INTERVIEW!!!



So hoe far does that integrity stretch bra??? How far did your integrity take you in your due diligence? A firm handshake? A gentle yet resolute look in the eye?



WHY NOT DO THE MATH??????

Someone else did the math and they didn't agree with what MTI said so therefore THEY are jealous and just haterz.

When large sums of money are involved people's brains stop working.

 

[Speedster]

How are we doing in getting the anonymousZA data back up?

 

[newby_investor]

How are we doing in getting the anonymousZA data back up?

I have the sql file downloaded. I don't know what to do with it though.

I've passed it on to a couple of other forumites, hoping someone more skilled than I could make something usable.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

How are we doing in getting the anonymousZA data back up?

I suspect that won’t be back up, perhaps data was handed off to the authorities.

Whatever data that was downloaded will likely be of little use in tying it to the key players as the names have been obfusficated, so without the raw data to reference it’s not really possible or would be very hard to try to tie that data up to actual names of the members involved.

 

[r00igev@@r]

It never gets old

 

[airborne]

What's happened, has it finally all gone tits up?!

Cheri and co must surely be running for the hills, there's going to be some very angry and probably dangerous people hunting for them?

 

[Speedster]

What's happened, has it finally all gone tits up?!

Cheri and co must surely be running for the hills, there's going to be some very angry and probably dangerous people hunting for them?

Official line is Johann has disappeared in Sao Paulo. It's basically Steven Twain 2.0 with Cheri again playing the victim.

 

[RedViking]

What's happened, has it finally all gone tits up?!

Cheri and co must surely be running for the hills, there's going to be some very angry and probably dangerous people hunting for them?

They have done it before. It is not their first one. They not scared. Already planning the next one.

 

[TheRoDent]

Regulators upset me...
Location was disclosed...

What pisses me off is Johan Kruger's blatant lies during that call. Where on earth did the FSCA "disclose Johann's" location ?

 

[Hopfrog]

Interesting ...
https://behindmlm.com/companies/mir...l/mti-ceo-johan-steynberg-flees-south-africa/

So if this is Clynton on the right it must be Cheri on the left

 

[acidrain]

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Guys lower down trying to absolve themselves of blame

Made a comment. Anyone who recruited people, that were none the wiser and spent their savings to do so, are scum in my eyes.

Ignorance is no excuse.

 

[Lars Vloging]

See you there

Damnit!

I will toast from Durban!

 

[RedViking]

Made a comment. Anyone who recruited people, that were none the wiser and spent their savings to do so, are scum in my eyes.

Ignorance is no excuse.

Agree. Specially those I told it is a scam and what they are doing is wrong. They are just as guilty.... But they don't care. To the outside they are trusted business men and women and could not have known this would happen.

Sheep.

 

[Def-e-nition]

I have it on good authority now that cor has been dispatching a hefty R450k a month out of Mti.
Frankly, I'm inclined to believe it, judging by how far up Cheri's Lindtbol dispatcher he is.

Half of that might be verbal garbage, but I'm praying it's true; i want these recruiters All to sit with Marinus and the wards.

I'm done. Stone cold now about families and livelihoods blah blah blah.

He has a chunk of his brain missing if he thinks no one here will scam anyone..

How, in the HELL, does he make such an obtuse observation, sitting so close to officially THE biggest unproclaimed Ponzi Lindtbol pimp currently operating in Southern Africa?????????

I'm going to need to turn my WiFi off, for fear any more douchebag statements like that hurt my brain...ffs.

 

[Def-e-nition]

Agree. Specially those I told it is a scam and what they are doing is wrong. They are just as guilty.... But they don't care. To the outside they are trusted business men and women and could not have known this would happen.

Sheep.

100% agree. That's exactly how i feel about the local now.

And the guy's are WhatsApping him like mad for answers...