Mirror (non)Trading International 2 - The Fallout

[Venator]

 

[John Tempus]

The bitcoin is actually held by the Broker and the trading amount in the pool is what the broker has loaned MTI to trade with? So since Johan has masqueraded as the broker he has made off with the bitcoin and the number reflecting on the system is the last known amount that was being traded. But actually the bitcoin pool is empty.

The bitcoin at the broker (Johann) does not exist.
Trade300 scammy attempt as a broker website was only first put up on the day the FSCA released criminal charges.
The number shown on the MTI platform is fabricated based on the fake daily profit and the initial balance they claim existed at some point.

Everything on the MTI platform at this point in time is fake numbers that is represented by no asset backing it.

 

[Def-e-nition]

There you go, all corrected for you...!!

Agreed.
They never hit anywhere NEAR to the figure Maxxxxxtrrrra pimped out on their software.
snyper can help me here but i can't seem to remember the name of the scam using the same program.
The wallets were controlled by Johan steyn himself : there never was anything more than a swimming pool at JS's house,on the stoep.

I'm still trying to ascertain how much he made off with . 2000 btc ? 3000? So much actual money went to the marks, Bell, Simmonds bunch it's frightening to think now that they are unanswerable to their multi accounts thievery.

Once it sinks in ,I predict a few people are going consider suicide.
I'm keeping a close eye on my pal. 4 million borrowed is maniacally foolish: the thought of him losing it all, then having to face paying back money forever, given to these clunts : is morbidly depressing .

 

[JSbot]

What gives you the idea that they will be explaining anything?

Because they claim they have got control of the server the technical team and will be implimenting the new 20000 payout software -- why?

I suppose they could claim that since Johan controlled everything the numbers where faked by Johan and they believed the numbers.

Leading back to Mondays announcement - We have discovered Johan faked all the numbers, masqueraded as the broker, faked the existence of the bot, and has dissappeared with all the bitcoin - That should do it.

 

[John Tempus]

Agreed.
They never hit anywhere NEAR to the figure Maxxxxxtrrrra pimped out on their software.
snyper can help me here but i can't seem to remember the name of the scam using the same program.
The wallets were controlled by Johan steyn himself : there never was anything more than a swimming pool at JS's house,on the stoep.

I'm still trying to ascertain how much he made off with . 2000 btc ? 3000? So much actual money went to the marks, Bell, Simmonds bunch it's frightening to think now that they are unanswerable to their multi accounts thievery.

Once it sinks in ,I predict a few people are going consider suicide.
I'm keeping a close eye on my pal. 4 million borrowed is maniacally foolish: the thought of him losing it all, then having to face paying back money forever, given to these clunts : is morbidly depressing .

Very few ponzis actually make off with more than 1% of total deposits else it will collapse too early. Ponzis making off with more than that usually only popup convincingly for a few weeks or perhaps a month, gobble up massive deposits then before anyone can really withdraw they pull the exit scam early.

The fact MTI seemingly lasted this long would suggest that either they managed to convince people above average to not withdraw consistently or they managed to get consistent inflow of deposits that surpassed withdrawal requests for most of this year.

 

[JohnStarr]

The bitcoin is actually held by the Broker and the trading amount in the pool is what the broker has loaned MTI to trade with? So since Johan has masqueraded as the broker he has made off with the bitcoin and the number reflecting on the system is the last known amount that was being traded. But actually the bitcoin pool is empty.

Bullcrap! Total bullcrap. Smoke and mirrors. Who was the mysterious broker then if not for the guy in Brazil?

 

[John Tempus]

Because they claim they have got control of the server the technical team and will be implimenting the new 20000 payout software -- why?

LMAO

Claim, claim, claim.. is all just to by time and think of better excuses to drill down the cult members throats.

No special server or technical team, what don't you understand ?

The only technical team is Maxtra support in india that is running the software for them.

Are you really this thick or just a very very special kind of MTI member ?


I still suspect they will actually be able to convince their cult members that all bitcoin got stolen and that they will write up IOU's and resume as MTI 2.0 with a new improved trading bot that will definitely not this time also implode as long as members continue to redeposit so that everything can resume. I do not doubt for a second that the MTI cult leaders would be so brazen to do exactly this.

If MTI had any level of technical skills I would not be surprised if they even go and generate a MTI token as an IOU interest purchase into MTI operations that MTI will promise to buy back at a later date, LMAO.

 

[JohnStarr]

Agreed.
They never hit anywhere NEAR to the figure Maxxxxxtrrrra pimped out on their software.
snyper can help me here but i can't seem to remember the name of the scam using the same program.
The wallets were controlled by Johan steyn himself : there never was anything more than a swimming pool at JS's house,on the stoep.

I'm still trying to ascertain how much he made off with . 2000 btc ? 3000? So much actual money went to the marks, Bell, Simmonds bunch it's frightening to think now that they are unanswerable to their multi accounts thievery.

Once it sinks in ,I predict a few people are going consider suicide.
I'm keeping a close eye on my pal. 4 million borrowed is maniacally foolish: the thought of him losing it all, then having to face paying back money forever, given to these clunts : is morbidly depressing .

R4 bar...??? What made him do that or was it simply down to greed or being sold a lie? Or was he desperate?

 

[JSbot]

LMAO

Claim, claim, claim.. is all just to by time and think of better excuses to drill down the cult members throats.

No special server or technical team, what don't you understand ?

The only technical team is Maxtra support in india that is running the software for them.

Are you really this thick or just a very very special kind of MTI member ?


I still suspect they will actually be able to convince their cult members that all bitcoin got stolen and that they will write up IOU's and resume as MTI 2.0 with a new improved trading bot that will definitely not this time also implode as long as members continue to redeposit so that everything can resume. I do not doubt for a second that the MTI cult leaders would be so brazen to do exactly this.

If MTI had any level of technical skills I would not be surprised if they even go and generate a MTI token as an IOU interest purchase into MTI operations that MTI will promise to buy back at a later date, LMAO.

It is common knowledge that there is no technical team, no trip to brazil to work on the server so I think the only kind of thick is what you are pouring!

There is a simple contemplation of how they are going to present their explanation in the face of all their claims and justify it - I think you are the one not understanding

 

[JSbot]

W

Bullcrap! Total bullcrap. Smoke and mirrors. Who was the mysterious broker then if not for the guy in Brazil?

Why would there have to be any broker other than trade300 which is Johan - are you imagining that anybody believes their claims - but it remains their claim nonetheless

 

[John Tempus]

It is common knowledge that there is no technical team, no trip to brazil to work on the server so I think the only kind of thick is what you are pouring!

There is a simple contemplation of how they are going to present their explanation in the face of all their claims and justify it - I think you are the one not understanding

Johann left for Brazil and not business related. He left purely to avoid the legal situation.

If you still think Johann is in South Africa then perhaps you would also like to invest in all the other ponzis because you are beyond thick.

MTI is not coming back, the remaining BTC left with Johann and founders including Cheri even though she is playing the village idiot right now.

Everything being discussed right now is part of stalling tactics and creating a blame game scenario that they can keep spinning until any legal case comes up.

 

[JSbot]

There is simply going to be a plundered wallet scenario or a new restuctured business model operating outside of South Africa

 

[John Tempus]

There is simply going to be a plundered wallet scenario or a new restuctured business model operating outside of South Africa

LMAO , good thing you allude to being pretty because other than that you are dumb as a brick.

 

[LJ1234]

There is simply going to be a plundered wallet scenario or a new restuctured business model operating outside of South Africa

Family of @gensix aka @genfour?

 

[JSbot]

Johann left for Brazil and not business related. He left purely to avoid the legal situation.

If you still think Johann is in South Africa then perhaps you would also like to invest in all the other ponzis because you are beyond thick.

MTI is not coming back, the remaining BTC left with Johann and founders including Cheri even though she is playing the village idiot right now.

Everything being discussed right now is part of stalling tactics and creating a blame game scenario that they can keep spinning until any legal case comes up.

What is you actual point ? There is a strong suggestion on a number of fronts that Johan may be back in South Africa , contemplating that as a possibility in no manner suggests someone is thick and should invest in ponzi schemes- your logic and association is bewildering.

It remains to be seen either MTI folds with the plundered wallet revelation or they try to rebuild it as something else.

the rest will be determined Monday

 

[Decor13]

Evidently, the majority of the shills and top dogs really have started scrubbing their their Facebook pages of all reference ls to MTI.

I find this really weird, since surely a "missing" person implies a level of uncertainty...
If my child went missing, I wouldn't suddenly sell all his belongings and clear out his room as though he'd never be back.... Would I?

So why are they all acting as if its a foregone conclusion that MTI has collapsed?
It's because they KNEW this was the exit.

And then you get the ones that did not get the memo to clean up or maybe they were not told of the exit plan....Eddie Brown, Ai-Vizion, pastor Royal Twum, etc. They must feel really k@k to have been left out, they worked so hard to build those teams of idiots...

 

[LJ1234]

What is you actual point ? There is a strong suggestion on a number of fronts that Johan may be back in South Africa , contemplating that as a possibility in no manner suggests someone is thick and should invest in ponzi schemes- your logic and association is bewildering.

It remains to be seen either MTI folds with the plundered wallet revelation or they try to rebuild it as something else.

the rest will be determined Monday

 

[John Tempus]

What is you actual point ? There is a strong suggestion on a number of fronts that Johan may be back in South Africa , contemplating that as a possibility in no manner suggests someone is thick and should invest in ponzi schemes- your logic and association is bewildering.

It remains to be seen either MTI folds with the plundered wallet revelation or they try to rebuild it as something else.

the rest will be determined Monday

He is not back out of his hiding and he will not be.

The moment he steps back into SA he will be arrested at this point or did you also forget about the criminal case lodged.

Again let me get this into your thick skull, Johann will not step foot back into South Africa until this blows over entirely assuming that ever happens.

The fact you even suggest that they might rebuild it into something else is beyond special ed retardism. Rebuilding a ponzi into something else ? Do you even read what you write or is this all written by running poo stained toilet paper all over your keyboard ?

Nothing will be determined on monday or next monday or any monday. This coming monday will just be the next step in stringing people along with more lies around what is happening. All these stringing along is their feeler tactics to see what the "investors" accept vs do not accept and so they will keep changing the story until the majority accept the outcome.

If you are too daft to understand how ponzis operate and how they minimize the blame onto them self then perhaps you should really just stick to fashion modeling or making Bollywood movies.

 

[Whyarewehere]

SO . THis Is how August went down , with Cor.
i Really Tried to Make him understand .
I Explained to him how big My own personal Motivation would've been , To join .
Sink My ex, claim My Kids: Fck the Money: the victory of claiming custody of my kids .No Greater vicotry for me, than that.
Instead: He Shot me down and told me How disappointing i was as a Friend .After I told him How i'd Reached my conclusions about Mti .
THe My BB Thread .
His Defence : I bought Stuff from you: Would've thought you at least defended Me and support my business position . WHat Did I do ? I stopped posting ANti-mti on my wall ( i have a bit of clout :tiny , but significant enough in town )
the End result: a schoolmate , heavily Overdrawn into the Red , mortgaged , and 3 more suffering Losses to the Tune of R6million Rand collectively.
Not His Fault :but my respect for him , prevented me from furthering my attempts to push Mti down.

Fool was I .

THough i understood His notion that passive income was /is, always a good thing : I did Not share the same view, regards Mti .
Later today : This screenbubble Will be added to, provided he responds . I Dont Want to gloat , but I gave him all the reason to Exit.Seems though that Money was the root of our difference in opinion. I Am still fighting for my kids, albeit minus cash: as for him : He Is fighting disbelief , that Johann has been kidnapped.

My first line to him later ?: you Once said you had no more pity for me ?

TOuche ....

You dont need him as a friend. By the looks of things he could not give two ****s what troubles you are having in your life, its all me me me. So he deserves everything that comes his way, looking at his telegram post i personally want to give him a pk, my consolation will be he is now bankrupt and you are not.

And on a sidenote, we are a family now, so if the forum can help in any way with your personal predicament, please shout.

 

[Venator]

He is not back out of his hiding and he will not be.

The moment he steps back into SA he will be arrested at this point or did you also forget about the criminal case lodged.

Again let me get this into your thick skull, Johann will not step foot back into South Africa until this blows over entirely assuming that ever happens.

The fact you even suggest that they might rebuild it into something else is beyond special ed retardism. Rebuilding a ponzi into something else ? Do you even read what you write or is this all written by running poo stained toilet paper all over your keyboard ?

Just checking...you guys do know there's an "ignore" option on here, right?