Mirror (non)Trading International 2 - The Fallout

[John Tempus]

Just checking...you guys do know there's an "ignore" option on here, right?

Yep but I like every reply made by these thick as a brick shills in order to more easily reference it later on. Every reply can be used as evidence at a later stage, even retards like JSbot is allowed to voice their opinion and I am pretty sure it is just another MTI investor trying to get a feel what the general public think is going on.

 

[BeoWulf2]

There is simply going to be a plundered wallet scenario or a new restuctured business model operating outside of South Africa

Can't believe I entertained your posts earlier. You come out of thin air and seem to be testing reactions or looking for ideas to all kinds of scenarios. Fotsek né.

 

[LJ1234]

Just checking...you guys do know there's an "ignore" option on here, right?

He/she is the first on my ignore list.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

my consolation will be he is now bankrupt and you are not

I'm not so sure about that, back in September between Cor and his "wife" (doubt she even knows she has an account using hubby's real estate agency business email) they deposited under 100k and withdrew almost 500k

wouldn't be surprised if that trend continued till the end, in which case he's not a gullible victim, he is one of the scammers and he knowingly stole from his downline and many others

 

[IndigoIdentity]

He is not back out of his hiding and he will not be.

The moment he steps back into SA he will be arrested at this point or did you also forget about the criminal case lodged.

Again let me get this into your thick skull, Johann will not step foot back into South Africa until this blows over entirely assuming that ever happens.

The fact you even suggest that they might rebuild it into something else is beyond special ed retardism. Rebuilding a ponzi into something else ? Do you even read what you write or is this all written by running poo stained toilet paper all over your keyboard ?

Nothing will be determined on monday or next monday or any monday. This coming monday will just be the next step in stringing people along with more lies around what is happening. All these stringing along is their feeler tactics to see what the "investors" accept vs do not accept and so they will keep changing the story until the majority accept the outcome.

If you are too daft to understand how ponzis operate and how they minimize the blame onto them self then perhaps you should really just stick to fashion modeling or making Bollywood movies.

Well, personally I'd be able to picture Johan getting involved with the next Ponzi... Heck they likely already got that going... He's just going to be playing Teven Swain this time around.

Definately not coming back to SA though, agreed.

 

[JSbot]

Not testing any scenarios

There are simply two: They will stick to the story that Johan has made off with the loot or they will try to continue their golden goose farm. As simple as that - Monday will reveal which one plays out

Only a fool believes they can only be right, especially when they've been wrong so many times before - Its a display of ignorance to fail to consider alternative probabilities in the pigheaded belief that since you thought it , it is the only possibility and then running around calling people thick and dumb - really?

 

[Venator]

What happened Je'zelle? I see the picture of the Merc you bought with stolen Bitcoin was also removed from your page

 

[Venator]

I'm not so sure about that, back in September between Cor and his "wife" (doubt she even knows she has an account using hubby's real estate agency business email) they deposited under 100k and withdrew almost 500k

wouldn't be surprised if that trend continued till the end, in which case he's not a gullible victim, he is one of the scammers and he knowingly stole from his downline and many others

Yeah Cor Venter is by NO MEANS a victim....he is habitually involved in all sorts of get-rich-quick schemes

 

[Def-e-nition]

Very few ponzis actually make off with more than 1% of total deposits else it will collapse too early. Ponzis making off with more than that usually only popup convincingly for a few weeks or perhaps a month, gobble up massive deposits then before anyone can really withdraw they pull the exit scam early.

The fact MTI seemingly lasted this long would suggest that either they managed to convince people above average to not withdraw consistently or they managed to get consistent inflow of deposits that surpassed withdrawal requests for most of this year.

Number 2.

Most of the deposits did go into withdrawals: but the bells marks and go, made of with substantial amounts, sufficient to make them greedily rewarded...

 

[IndigoIdentity]

I'm not so sure about that, back in September between Cor and his "wife" (doubt she even knows she has an account using hubby's real estate agency business email) they deposited under 100k and withdrew almost 500k

wouldn't be surprised if that trend continued till the end, in which case he's not a gullible victim, he is one of the scammers and he knowingly stole from his downline and many others

My 2c, for real, this guy sounds like an incredible twat... The type of person that will happily leverage a situation for their own self benefit, a vampire...

@Def-e-nition Just wondering if the cars that you sold to him were in any way shape or form messed up or dodgy or was it a bad deal? My humble guess is not and that he likely got a good bargain out of it and yet he will happily turn around and use that against you in a situation where it bears no relevance? I didn't hear anyone bashing his real estate agency, just his membership and promotion of MTI on an affiliate level so that part of his business dealings truly seem to be up to **** and he deserves all the problems that will come along with it...

Seems to me that he's going backwards in life and a continued relationship on whatever level will only end up dragging you down as a result. The way I see it, the faster you can forget about em the faster you can shift your focus onto finding solutions for your own issues in life.

 

[Venator]

 

[clickingbuttons]

Not testing any scenarios

There are simply two: They will stick to the story that Johan has made off with the loot or they will try to continue their golden goose farm. As simple as that - Monday will reveal which one plays out

Only a fool believes they can only be right, especially when they've been wrong so many times before - Its a display of ignorance to fail to consider alternative probabilities in the pigheaded belief that since you thought it , it is the only possibility and then running around calling people thick and dumb - really?

Did you or did you not invest in MTI?

If the answer is yes then you sir are somewhat mentally challenged.

No amount of your other "logic" will persuade otherwise.

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

I believe that regulation should be tightened on any business handling other people's money or assets and should not be able to solicit ANY business before they aren't fully licensed and compliant with all laws and regulations.

What's the point of the Consumer Protection Act if Ponzi's are allowed to operated out in the Public via 'a registered company' no less. It gives it legitimacy to the Scheme if its not stopped dead in its track, well before it gains popularity and traction.

 

[Def-e-nition]

R4 bar...??? What made him do that or was it simply down to greed or being sold a lie? Or was he desperate?

Stupidity.

The cracks are starting to show: I've had more people come out of the woodwork now, telling me how much they've invested.

I'm shocked.

Tuesday night was a baptism of fire for me, and only re instilled my gumption to be anti-mlm.

Sickens me to think that ordinary people, with successful ordinary jobs, are so fleeced by their upline to go to such lengths.

 

[JohnStaynMountain]

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Were is Joel Santiago?

 

[JSbot]

Did you or did you not invest in MTI?

If the answer is yes then you sir are somewhat mentally challenged.

No amount of your other "logic" will persuade otherwise.

I have not invested in MTI - I am watching it go down and I am contemplating how it will do so, so the mental challenge seems to lie elsewhere

 

[LJ1234]

Stupidity.

The cracks are starting to show: I've had more people come out of the woodwork now, telling me how much they've invested.

I'm shocked.

Tuesday night was a baptism of fire for me, and only re instilled my gumption to be anti-mlm.

Sickens me to think that ordinary people, with successful ordinary jobs, are so fleeced by their upline to go to such lengths.

Greed is a strong motivator. I am sad for you...not so much for your friends. Never make an "investment " without doing due diligence

 

[Venator]

Were is Joel Santiago?

I'm a bit in 2 minds about who I add there...I've got pics for him and Cheri and the other Ward goons...but the titles shown are all "Trainer & Presenter", and we all know they are not limited to that in any way shape or form.

 

[John Tempus]

I have not invested in MTI - I am watching it go down and I am contemplating how it will do so, so the mental challenge seems to lie elsewhere

I find this very hard to believe.

You act within all your posts in a similar schizophrenic manner as other MTI "investors" and shills who rocked up with a new registered account and only posting in this thread.

 

[quovadis]

What's the point of the Consumer Protection Act if Ponzi's are allowed to operated out in the Public via 'a registered company' no less.

IMHO there’s too much focus on the CPA. The Collective Investment Schemes Control act is what they fall foul of primarily - https://www.gov.za/sites/default/files/gcis_document/201409/a45-020.pdf