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Mirror (non)Trading International 3 - Freemasons,Russians,and no bitcoins
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Actually this has nothing to do with religion .... that's a very slippery slope. Coincidence is the sibling of all fxxxups.
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Remember only good things and good ideas come from God, but evil thoughts and schemes and lies cannot be placed in your mind by Him. Only the devil and his worshippers can trick your mind by sins to do evil things, in this case it was greed, pride and envy that lured most people into pouring a lot of money into mti and I am pretty sure everyone had a warning sign or a feeling that something is fishy but they would not listen.
Of course it doesn't but they'll hide behind that.
You are 1000% correct.
Well "belief" despite there being no proof seems to be a well practised activity. But lets keep religion out of it an stick to the matter at hand, which has zero to do with any of the 100s of religions out there.
The alternative is that we will soon be having a bun fight that has zero to do with MTI.
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Talking about schemes has crowd1 fallen yet?
Not only will they hide themselves behind it, but by seeking out religious groups, they have a kind of preliminary screening that identifies people who will be prone to cultist manipulation. More than half the work of getting people to classify anyone who doesn't agree as being "evil" or "jealous" or just "nasty" has already been done for them. Add that naysayers must be under the sway of the Devil and it's is game over as far as rational thought is concerned. This is why the founders of these scams must be taken down.
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Ah yes, Lucifer, the original "hater"...the whole us vs. them thing is strong there and primes them sufficiently to fall for all sorts of affinity fraud.
It appears not despite being either banned or at least identified as a pyramid scheme in quite a few countries.
OK, so besides people wanting to make a quick buck here, would they screen you and I for instance and adjudge us beforehand of not being candidates?
They'd know those people wanting to earn a fast buck but their desperation for instance that they show when being spoken too.
The only answer I can give about seeing whether I am a candidate is from two instances. One was with Vaultage and the other Praesidium Wealth. I certainly expressed interest in alternative investments, was quite open about having just matured an investment and had some money lookig for a home and asked for some details of the investments. The shills only spoke to me once and did not follow up. So apparently something indicated that I would be more effort than other marks.
OK, so this is the interesting thing then to figure out going forward and to use it as a warning for potential victims. What do shills and people at the top of the potential pyramid use to identify those candidates. Sure, they know of friends and family who might want to invest because they're hard up for cash and desperate.
But what else? Is someone not a candidate if they're asking too many questions? Or if they are knowledgeable about the subject at hand?
Getting to understand the psychology around it. I highly doubt people like the top performers mentioned here are consciously aware of doing it in a particular way, but there is an underlying psychological reason for the way they approach others.
in other news, it looks like Gary Handley (a.k.a. cryptoanalyzer / cryptoanalyzer.uk / t.me/CryptoAnalyzerNews / facebook.com/CryptoAnalyzerYoutube ) has actually done something that is not totally self-serving... helping to support that the anonymous leak info is accurate.
Gary kindly provides a video, properly watermarked even, showing how to fund a MTI wallet, where he proudly displays his MTI back office:
Heading over to https://mtileaks.github.io/ we can get to here :
In a later "top-up" video from his Facebook page he shows a redacted transaction ID when topping up his wallet with 0.52 btc. Comparing that ID to the leak (hint, look at the 0.52 btc transaction):
I guess it is possible that someone has it in for Gary, making all this info up but anyone looking into Gary / cryptoanalyzer / or any investment opportunities pushed by Gary should at least have a look at https://www.dishonest.co.za/doku.php?id=cryptoanalyzer
Sorry folks, this almost reads like a review....before we return to regular forum talk, who wants to sign up in a scam using my referral id?
Gary kindly provides a video, properly watermarked even, showing how to fund a MTI wallet, where he proudly displays his MTI back office:
Heading over to https://mtileaks.github.io/ we can get to here :
In a later "top-up" video from his Facebook page he shows a redacted transaction ID when topping up his wallet with 0.52 btc. Comparing that ID to the leak (hint, look at the 0.52 btc transaction):
I guess it is possible that someone has it in for Gary, making all this info up but anyone looking into Gary / cryptoanalyzer / or any investment opportunities pushed by Gary should at least have a look at https://www.dishonest.co.za/doku.php?id=cryptoanalyzer
Sorry folks, this almost reads like a review....before we return to regular forum talk, who wants to sign up in a scam using my referral id?
I am getting my pen and paper ready but first need to know - can we put the fairies through tumblers?
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I am getting my pen and paper ready but first need to know - can we put the fairies through tumblers?
Are you seriously condoning fairy abuse? The hell is wrong with you?
What is this. Random pic of a person at MTI offices?
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Correlation is certainly not causation, but there do seem to be reoccurring themes to most of these scams in terms of who they target. As we've said before, the Bible Belt in the US has one of (if not the) biggest hotspot for affinity fraud in the US. I can't say for certain, but I don't think these people fall for scams because they're religious, but rather that they may be religious and fall for scams for the same underlying reason (who knows?).
My best guess here is insufficient reasoning abilities, as no one who holds a religious belief does so by way of sound reasoning. If reasoning was involved it wouldn't be called faith. In much the same way that religious notions require special pleading, so do many of these scams too.
These schemes also like to target low-income people by way of making the "price of admission" pretty low.
Conspiracy theorists are also primed with all sorts of confirmation biases for these scammers to exploit.
Essentially, find a group of poor and/or religious people, and there will be someone taking advantage of them, guaranteed.
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I think their Modus Operandi is pretty much find as many easy targets as possible and don't waste time on hard sellers - spend it on people that show interest and not doubt - after all the more people you have, the better... Literally ask like 3 questions that throw doubt on someone that's a 'multi level marketer' and they'll leave you alone (used to live with one and after I questioned their opportunity the first time, they never asked me again).
I think they're told "If your friends and family doubt you, they're just jealous - separate yourself from them, you don't need negative people in your life"
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