Mirror (non)Trading International 3 - Freemasons,Russians,and no bitcoins

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Wary GOM

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People have been scared to point fingers and naming people, and as (wary) MyBB members we've been careful to divulge personal details of complicit people, to the point of filtering out ID numbers personal details etc.

But frankly, when you see a murderer, pedofile, or a criminal in your community, why should we respect THEIR privacy ?

Fsck them. Call them out. Lay their **** bare....
I so strongly agree with the second paragraph in spirit. Sadly (?) in an earlier or perhaps future age (or even those communities right here in SA where they take child-rapists out and beat them to death) it might come to be. In this half-civilised, half-lawless age, we cannot give silver-tongued lawyers the means to defend the guilty. MyBB might also be wary, but what a job you guys have done! THIS time the scum might be scooped off the surface and flushed.
 

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Harsh but much truth here. Particularly since he became involved when there were already red flags being flown by others. Nonethless, the fact that he was foolish, oblivious to warnings and so on does not in any way reduce the culpability of the MTI management - ALL of them.

Before science we used to have natural selection doing the work of nature. Now with science I believe the only thing left in life to cull the herd is natural selection via capitalism. As harsh as it might seem in the overpopulated world we live in and all the ways to extend life even for people living in absolute ghettos it seems the only last resort to avoid us doubling the population decade after decade is via capitalist greed such as this example.

Only humans have managed to completely boycott natural selection compared to every other living organism on this planet so again as harsh as this might seem it does suggest it is the only and last remaining method of natural selection against humans.

This is a two way street though. For the scammers it should be an end to their life as they know it but also to the greedy or uninformed investor it should be an end of that chapter of their life.
 

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Before science we used to have natural selection doing the work of nature. Now with science I believe the only thing left in life to cull the herd is natural selection via capitalism. As harsh as it might seem in the overpopulated world we live in and all the ways to extend life even for people living in absolute ghettos it seems the only last resort to avoid us doubling the population decade after decade is via capitalist greed such as this example.

Only humans have managed to completely boycott natural selection compared to every other living organism on this planet so again as harsh as this might seem it does suggest it is the only and last remaining method of natural selection against humans.

This is a two way street though. For the scammers it should be an end to their life as they know it but also to the greedy or uninformed investor it should be an end of that chapter of their life.
Natural selection isn't a requirement if education is sufficiently elevated.
It's been proven that the higher the standard of education in a country the lower the birth rate.
Humans are sufficiently evolved to not require a culling process - that's the point of being the pinnacle of evolution.
 

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Natural selection isn't a requirement if education is sufficiently elevated.
It's been proven that the higher the standard of education in a country the lower the birth rate.
Humans are sufficiently evolved to not require a culling process - that's the point of being the pinnacle of evolution.

Poverty and uneducated individuals will always be exponentially greater as the population worldwide increase.

There isn't even good will / finances / etc. to make sure everyone is at least educated up to a specific level outside of finances and if you want to include everyone to be equally educated in finances its an even greater unlikely possibility.

This is why we will continue worldwide to exponentially have "dumber" / "foolish" people that will overpopulate the world, just got to accept that as fact.

I don't agree that we are evolved enough at all. Our technological breakthroughs have surpassed our actual evolution and the individual is still pretty much borderline dumb as a rock.

I would liken humankind to what you would see elephants do in national reserve parks. If there is nothing that threatens them they will outstrip and completely out grow and destroy the entire park if no one intervene. Once they have destroyed the entire park and stripped out all the food supply they will effectively cause their own demise.
 

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Whilst looking for that elusive Andrew Lomax vid I stumbled across this...

8.30 mark... seems like others saw the finalmente fall a bit sooner - but these were ppl looking there though

 

Wary GOM

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Before science we used to have natural selection doing the work of nature. Now with science I believe the only thing left in life to cull the herd is natural selection via capitalism. As harsh as it might seem in the overpopulated world we live in and all the ways to extend life even for people living in absolute ghettos it seems the only last resort to avoid us doubling the population decade after decade is via capitalist greed such as this example.

Only humans have managed to completely boycott natural selection compared to every other living organism on this planet so again as harsh as this might seem it does suggest it is the only and last remaining method of natural selection against humans.

This is a two way street though. For the scammers it should be an end to their life as they know it but also to the greedy or uninformed investor it should be an end of that chapter of their life.
That's an interesting take on capititalism as one of the selective agents acting on modern humans. You haven't said it, but implied in your comments is that natural selection is blind. At least blind in a moral sense that any trait/set of traits that increase success of offspring will increase in frequency in the population. SO ---- yes, if unintelligent (hence we are hypothesising, unsuccessful) investors will leave smaller numbers. at least. or less successful children and hence less grandchildren etc.

Of course the other side of that coin is that successful scammers will leave greater numbers of children and/or more successful children who will begit more children!

[This post by John Tempus has the potential for generating loads of interesting discussion albeit somewhat removed from MTI! Thanks!]
 

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Poverty and uneducated individuals will always be exponentially greater as the population worldwide increase.

There isn't even good will / finances / etc. to make sure everyone is at least educated up to a specific level outside of finances and if you want to include everyone to be equally educated in finances its an even greater unlikely possibility.

This is why we will continue worldwide to exponentially have "dumber" / "foolish" people that will overpopulate the world, just got to accept that as fact.

I don't agree that we are evolved enough at all. Our technological breakthroughs have surpassed our actual evolution and the individual is still pretty much borderline dumb as a rock.

I would liken humankind to what you would see elephants do in national reserve parks. If there is nothing that threatens them they will outstrip and completely out grow and destroy the entire park if no one intervene. Once they have destroyed the entire park and stripped out all the food supply they will effectively cause their own demise.
Too many points worth lengthy discussion especially over drinks, which isn't possible now!

Just to touch on the last one. The effects of the balance between availability and consumption is very real and often is the main cause of flash-and-crash population cycles. It can select for inedible or poisonous species of plants, hence changing the plant species, but usually does little to produce smarter elephants. [Although it might favour elephants that can tolerate/digest the modified plants --- etc, etc.] That seems to be the human condition - we don't seem to be getting very far in making sure we don't destroy our environment or economy. Borderline dumb as a rock indeed!
 

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hey guys,

sorry if this was posted


I had to laugh at the evolution of scam artistry ... you must now pay to be in his inner circle for all he's wisdom and where to invest. Ok that sounds like a great idea, I must pay you now ( hire you) to scam me now. Its no longer Im going to tell you for free where Im going to scam you, its now pay me to tell you where Im going to scam you.
 

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I had a listen to the recorded call with Marinus Bell on dishonest.co.za.

So he basically said he will not touch his funds until they know if its a ponzi or not...........assume nobody at mti got the memo that there was not trading bot.

According to him there must be funds left and its not in JS "character" to just disapear and leaving his wife and child behind.

He is working tirelessly "sy vingers af" to get to the bottom of the story........maybe he must read mybb?

He said most of his withdrawls out of mti went back in.........not so sure.
 

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For those not on ci telegram group...this really hit hard today and tears are flowing... We don't always realize how big the path of devastation is, that these low life scumbags leave behind, until you read something like this!! View attachment 994088 View attachment 994090 View attachment 994092 View attachment 994094
I am deeply saddened by this disturbing true story and reading it together with news of the upcoming Carte Blanche feature, cannot help but to place some blame at Carte Blanche’s door as well as other exposé shows which were pleaded to help fight this evil.

If they had helped expose this Ponzi like so many here have begged them to do, then then this shattered family’s story may have been so different.

To now do this show for RATINGS after the fact, both angers and saddens me and I have to say, shame on you Carte Blanche, Devi and others who turned down this challenge when you could have actually made a difference to people's lives.

I for one will never support any of these shows again.
 
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I see a lot of congratulatory posts here and I have to agree that the guys here on MyBroadband have done an exceptional job in helping to expose MTI for the BIG FAT PONZI that it is. Without giving into threats and intimidation from MTI, MTI Supporters or their squad of so-called Lawyers.

I would also like to mention that there are many women fighting just as hard in the trenches and have been doing so selflessly (most anonymously) for some years now. A lot of it happens behind the scenes, but they are relentless and have made THE difference, together with this phenomenon on MBB. I'm not going to drop any names here, but I know some of these super hero women - and they absolutely ROCK!

So, to all men and women who fought to expose this MTI scam as well as still going at the many other scams out there: RESPECT! - you are just awesome human beings and make me proud to be counted amongst you as a South African that is making a difference.
 
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Waldman Jordaan

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To RAG or should I say - of RAG I have this to say:

Ever since RAG has popped up in the aftermath of MTI, I have seriously suspected that the simply must have some agenda that they are pushing, but could not put my finger on exactly what it is.

After some thought as well as more intel and input from other people, I have this hypothesis to share:

Is RAG setting out to gain MTI Members' trust, pretending that they will fight the fight for them and positioning themselves to ultimately get proxy from the majority of MTI Creditors for when the MTI Creditors need to vote on matters concerning the Liquidation?

Now this may still sound innocent enough to some, however I do not think RAG's loyalties are necessarily with the Creditors. RAG has been seen as 'friendly' with some of the big MTI pushers right from day one, these same MTI pushers will ultimately not be Creditors once MTI has been declared a PONZI, but Debtors who have to cough up their ill gotten gains.

So, it is pretty clear to me that RAG has been cozying up to both sides: firstly the future Debtors (Winners) and then the future Creditors (Losers). Of possible less importance, RAG is trying their very best to gain some favour or influence with (or at least not antagonize) the advocates and Liquidators.

So, I just have to ask the following question: are they cozying up to the future Creditors to mislead and ultimately dupe them once again?
 
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