Mirror (non)Trading International 3 - Freemasons,Russians,and no bitcoins

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haraldmeuffels

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Anyone know what happened to the MTI Scam - Now What? FB group?
Same question here. I also tried to find it this morning.
???
Our Now What-groups get Reports everyday.
FaceBook shutted us down for a silly comment.....we asked for a review !
But it already served its purpose.
Only angry members in there that only want their money back, but don't even care to report these crooks to the authorities.
We will see if we can win it back from FaceBook :sneaky: :thumbsup:
 

JohnStarr

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Its possible those clowns at DRAG complained and FB closed it
How many complaints does Facebook have to receive in order to close a group? I know, from reading posts, that the mods were asking people NOT to make any threats or call people names as the comments were being reported.
 

haraldmeuffels

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How many complaints does Facebook have to receive in order to close a group? I know, from reading posts, that the mods were asking people NOT to make any threats or call people names as the comments were being reported.
We asked them to "cool" down a bit.....because we know that our Group is monitored by the usuals suspects.
Almost every comment from a member gets a Report......and many members got a Facebook-ban for it.....so we warned them for that ! (it's not worth it, to get yourself into Facebook-jail)
But our Group is not affected by what a member post.....
Only we (Admins) have to be carefull what posts we "approve" and what we post ourself.....that can get us a Group-warning.....to many group-warnings and it can get shut down.
 

ShirleyJames

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I really don't get a good feeling from this RAG group/community.
Why is that ZA
All they have done is create a database of cult like people that follow the dollar without morals
They give advice when they are not qualified to give such advice
They try to interfere in a legal process that they are not qualified to do
They claim to represent investors but have no legal mandate to do so
They are now trying to influence the Hawks in their investigations
They are suspected of gearing up to do a recovery scam after the 1st meeting of creditors,
Their own website says they are both MTI leaders and senior investors. ( see The Plan)
and
you don't have a good feeling?
Come now, these are delightful people
 

JohnStarr

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Our Now What-groups get Reports everyday.
FaceBook shutted us down for a silly comment.....we asked for a review !
But it already served its purpose.
Only angry members in there that only want their money back, but don't even care to report these crooks to the authorities.
We will see if we can win it back from FaceBook :sneaky: :thumbsup:
Harald: Removed my previous comment. I remembered who you are (assuming you are that same person from the FB group). You are one of the active guys trying to get people to do something.
My apologies therefore, and comment removed.
 

bitcoinbutwhy

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Q & A nr 11 is bizarre.

"totally normal to live in a friends house. For the record any funds utilized by our clients are proceeds from trading done outside of MTI."

And the fact that an R11m home purchase happen to occur at the same time MTI was PUMPING is totally unrelated. LMFAO.
On a number of YouTube videos around the time of the hippo's move to Durban. Lindtbolletjie categorically stated that she can't wait to get to "our" new house in Durban. many other YouTube videos showed more than one vehicle that they have bought and should be impounded. The "anonymous" people have proof of the top people and proof of recorded withdrawals that show they have fleeced MTI investors as bad as JS and more so. When these crooks are in court they WILL be exposed for who they really are. I trust the judge will be one who will show no mercy for any one of them and will prosecute all of them to the fullest extent of the law. I rest my case.
 

Wary GOM

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To keep my blood pressure up and anger levels high enough to make anger management exercises worthwhile, I have reread Seltzer Law's comments.

Here is yet another of these areas where MTI spouted BS all the time:

Cheri witnessed Steynberg log into his Trade300 account. He opened live trades while next to her and invited the lead investigator to verify the trade. The investigator called another FSCA representative to look at the trades too and then confirmed it was CFD trading. Cheri did not have enough trading knowledge to confirm or deny that as she was not employed as a trader or technical person for MTI. Cheri also saw the correspondence between Steynberg and Trade300 to answer the requests sent by the FSCA, trade statements, transaction ID codes and balance confirmations. She had no reason to believe the trades were fictitious.

So a demo of CFD trading was "proof" that a) Superbot was trading and that b) these were bitcoin trades. OMW!
 

Jan

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Hey folks. I'm looking for where Johann Steynberg, Cheri Marks, or someone else stated that Clynton Marks designed MTI's remuneration / MLM scheme.

I've heard that mentioned a few times and am doing some fact checking. Does anyone know which video / voice note / telegram post that comes from?
 

Def-e-nition

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We asked them to "cool" down a bit.....because we know that our Group is monitored by the usuals suspects.
Almost every comment from a member gets a Report......and many members got a Facebook-ban for it.....so we warned them for that ! (it's not worth it, to get yourself into Facebook-jail)
But our Group is not affected by what a member post.....
Only we (Admins) have to be carefull what posts we "approve" and what we post ourself.....that can get us a Group-warning.....to many group-warnings and it can get shut down.
Did That Lump of Lard take away our Toy by reporting fictitious truths, or did facebook simply decide it had had enough traffic from lindbolletjie and Co ? I'm completely miffed....
 

retromodcoza

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Conclusion
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Evidence that Cheri Marks and Charlie ward have clearly contravened section 36 d of the FAIS act of 2002 and are liable to 10 years in prison or a R10m fine and can be prosecuted for such. If you are laying a charge ,include this information in your charge sheet.

Video -
- 27 Oct
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4:00 We continue to focus on our brand promise which is to grow your bitcoin which we have done brilliantly over the last 18 months
4:24 We have had 1 negative trading day in the last 18 months
4:40 Giving .2 .3 .5 .6 .7 to our members in trading profit for that day
6:32 My trading results everyday for me is perfect - its more than enough for me to live from , help my family , help my friends.
7:16 Facts about MTI - yes we are trading.
7:25 MTI is irrefutabley trading every day - forex market and crypto market to start with.
7:44 You can confirm the full bitcoin amount in trade in our trading account with our broker - this isnt an opinion - this is fact
7:54 That isn't something that we are fabricating.
8:20 MTI trades every single day
8:23 The verifiable proof is there
8:39 This puts the whole idea of MTI "Not trading" to bed
8:50 Yes , I'm a founder of MTI - its never been a secret
8:55 Clyton was there before anyone else was there.
9:18 I'm proud of the fact that I was with MTI from day 1
9:52 If we can help somebody withdraw their bitcoin and feed their family or make a car payment - thats what we want to do
10:21 Its all about giving people a little bit of freedom so that they can live in a economic time which is very pressing
10:54 We are busy helping 172,000 members across the world grow their bitcoin
13:41 And helping them to grow their cryptocurreny? That is not illegal. And its actually going extremely well.

Video -
- 10 Dec
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31:51 I am the one who triggered the process for the security on our broker account - 10 Dec
32:41 Between him and Clinton - they have personally funded the withdrawls - they are able to get it back out of our broker account.
48:45 Charlie (Ward) is our COO
1:02:53 We cannot run this business without you (referring to Clynton and Johann)
1:06:14 What the..fsca and haters and scammy little facebook pages and telegram groups say are completely irrelevant - and we continue to grow our memebers bitcoin and we will not stop to do that


Audio 18:33 from Cheri Marks - Telegram Group MTI Concerned Investors.
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4:22 I was a leader too in MTI - I reffered my family
4:50 A recuiter , a single mother as well , that we we signed up in May ,and she built a huge team
7:30 I was communications manager
13:25 I was the communications manager for MTI


Section 36 d of the FAIS act states
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Any person who – is not a representative appointed or mandated by an authorised financial
services provider in accordance with the provisions of this Act, and who in any
way declares, pretends, gives out, maintains or professes to be a person who
is authorised to render financial services to clients on the basis that the person
is appointed or mandated as a representative by another representative,
is guilty of an offence and is on conviction liable to a fine not exceeding R10million or
imprisonment for a period not exceeding 10 years, or both such fine and such
imprisonment.
[Subsection 1 amended by section 198(a) and (b) of Act No. 45 of 2013]

@Jan - Not exactly what you are looking for , but I took notes on different videos. 8:50 to 9:18 on the first video posted is a good addition.
 

haraldmeuffels

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Did That Lump of Lard take away our Toy by reporting fictitious truths, or did facebook simply decide it had had enough traffic from lindbolletjie and Co ? I'm completely miffed....

They are definitely reading our Group.....it's Public, so they can.
Most Reports are coming from FB-bots.
They are terrible strict at bullying these days.....even a simple "F"-word can get you are warning nowadays :mad:
 

reg4812

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Hey folks. I'm looking for where Johann Steynberg, Cheri Marks, or someone else stated that Clynton Marks designed MTI's remuneration / MLM scheme.
There could be such a video/audio but I think BTC Global got thrown into the fact mix (55:29 in the YT video, time stamped it for you)

 
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