Mirror (non)Trading International 3 - Freemasons,Russians,and no bitcoins

Tman*

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Doubt it will bother Nerina. Whatever they have locally is probably not directly attached to Johann's name in any way.

It would be insane to think Nerina is not aware of the entire scam from the get-go and more than likely planning to reunite with Johann after this blows over in a year or two.

The best anyone could really hope for here is to make the lives of the scammers as miserable as possible ie. Make sure Nerina cannot leave the country, take her passport from her. Monitor Nerina on border lists for the next decade at least.

Above should be done to every other leader in this scam ring but since Nerina is Johann's wife she is likely to have the biggest reason to follow through with her plans to reunite with Johann when the coast is clear.

Hopefully JS and Nerina are married in community of property.

Then the sequestration might just flush out JS
 

Decor13

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Paywall.

Could you post the most NB bit?
"Members are being misled to think that they would have to pay back their earnings from the scheme if they submit and prove their claims," said Riaan van Rooyen, one of the liquidators.

The other four liquidators are Herman Bester, Christopher Roos, Jacolien Frieda Barnard and Deidre Basson.

Many members of the scheme did receive payouts until early December, when they abruptly stopped. Shortly thereafter, the group's founder and CEO, Johann Steynberg, disappeared. He has not been heard from for over six months.

"If they [members] invested a R100 000 and withdraw R50 000, then we reduce their claim to R50 000," said Van Rooyen.

Too early to calculate payouts

He added it was too early to say how much members who are assessed to have valid claims would be paid out, as the liquidators were still in the process of tracking down the scheme's assets, while new claims were still coming in.

"I cannot promise you at the moment what we can pay you," he said. "But dividends are definitely going to be paid," he said.

Some 1281 bitcoin are already in the safekeeping of the liquidators.

Van Rooyen said the liquidators were also aware of a larger stash of 8 000 bitcoin, which they were in the process of investigating.

Members can lodge claims with any of the five liquidators who are working together.

"It doesn't matter to whom they send their claim," he said.
 

John Tempus

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Bullsht.

Obviously if you put in R100k and only took out R50k you will have nothing to pay back into the system. Great of them to state the obvious, you would have a R50k claim out of the system.

I think they are just trying to collect as much data to increase the total balance and then they will go in for the killing.

If the Krion pyramid scheme in early 2000's collected funds back from people who pulled out more than they put in then how in the world can this liquidator claim with MTI this is not going to happen.

Enjoy the Honey pot idiots.
 

PsyWulf

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Bullsht.

Obviously if you put in R100k and only took out R50k you will have nothing to pay back into the system. Great of them to state the obvious, you would have a R50k claim out of the system.

I think they are just trying to collect as much data to increase the total balance and then they will go in for the killing.

If the Krion pyramid scheme in early 2000's collected funds back from people who pulled out more than they put in then how in the world can this liquidator claim with MTI this is not going to happen.

Enjoy the Honey pot idiots.
Actually one of the stories from the anti-liquidation turds was they would be reclaiming all funds first,then everyone would be able to claim back after,thus the hesitance to register claims
 

RandomGeek

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I think the new ?guy?girl? will be having a few more stories to write about dodgy operations, such as MTI, in the coming years. Seeing the good journalism MBB displayed here it will be big boots to fill for sure


 

Wary GOM

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"Members are being misled to think that they would have to pay back their earnings from the scheme if they submit and prove their claims," said Riaan van Rooyen, one of the liquidators.

"I cannot promise you at the moment what we can pay you," he said. "But dividends are definitely going to be paid," he said.

The only shareholders are JS and Clinton. No one else gets dividends.
 

r00igev@@r

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I wonder what the shapeshifter Andrew Caw has been up to,,,

He is ponzi bitcoin advisor to the Marks. Wonder if URA still retains him as a client. Lets have some investigation. @Jan
 

Decor13

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Looks like Hamilton Cheong's forensic company in the USA, also looked into MTI.....he refers to tie-ins and the same "tumblers".:eek:

"Astonishingly, he says there are some disturbing tie-ins between Africrypt and Mirror Trading International (MTI), the crypto scam headed by CEO Johann Steynberg that roped in more than 23 000 bitcoin from hundreds of thousands of investors around the world.
MTI is currently in provisional liquidation, and Steynberg remains at large, having gone awol in December 2020 when MTI members’ requests for withdrawals went unanswered.
Some of the same ‘tumblers’ used by Africrypt were also used by MTI, says Cheong.
Tumblers are used by money launderers to hide the origin of funds by effectively creating an omelette out of several bitcoin eggs. Bitcoin from several sources are mixed and broken up in these tumblers and then shipped out, usually in small quantities, to cover the tracks of the money launderers."

The Moneyweb article:

 

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PsyWulf

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And there you have it
They are absolutely DESPERATE to not have it declared illegal and having to repay everything,willing to throw everyone to the wolves to do it too
 

Wary GOM

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PsyWulf

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Surely a ponzi scheme or pyramid scheme can still trade, so the fact that they are illegal does not make any trading done by them LEGAL? It's not (-1 times-1=1) but (-1 minus -1=-2).
At best they ran a legal (I say loosely,it was an unregistered copytrading business obviously) for like 3 months,till the pooling MLM nonsense started
 
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