Mirror (non)Trading International 3 - Freemasons,Russians,and no bitcoins

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John Tempus

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I hope it takes a few months to arrange his extradition. Brazilian prisons are hard and as a foreign criminal, with no ties to local organized crime, a pudgy whiteboy who looks about as tough as a marshmallow, he is going to have a very rough time there. Here in SA, there’s a possibility that he could use his money to make life easier for himself in prison. A few months getting passed around in Brazil is what he deserves.

Whatever money he got left will be extorted for protection in those Brazilian prisons. I won't be surprised if some upper inmates would have access to the internet from cellphone and will know about JS story and force him to hand over his remaining crypto, finger by finger.

Where have you ever seen an easier target to extort in prison. Silly foreign chublord white guy who have millions if not billions in crypto. You don't even need to steal boxes of cash from him, just cause enough pain for him to login to his crypto wallets/exchanges and force him to transfer the coins to your own wallet.

By the time JS makes it to SA he will probably be completely broke anyway.
 

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Whatever money he got left will be extorted for protection in those Brazilian prisons. I won't be surprised if some upper inmates would have access to the internet from cellphone and will know about JS story and force him to hand over his remaining crypto, finger by finger.

Where have you ever seen an easier target to extort in prison. Silly foreign chublord white guy who have millions if not billions in crypto. You don't even need to steal boxes of cash from him, just cause enough pain for him to login to his crypto wallets/exchanges and force him to transfer the coins to your own wallet.

By the time JS makes it to SA he will probably be completely broke anyway.
I’m not so sure. Maybe I’m giving DoubleN too much credit, but if I had a billion Dollars in Bitcoin and a year with nothing to do, but think about the future, I would have carefully squirreled away little stacks of crypto in a hundred different wallets in at least the top 10 Crypto currencies and stable coins. I would have the seed phrases to those wallets hidden in the most obscure places I could think of. Maybe giving one or two to trusted family members, to help support me in prison. He had to know that he was going to get caught eventually.

Even if the Brazilians have access to phones, it is a stretch to expect anybody to remember a 12 word recovery phrase, especially while you’re breaking his fingers. Restoring a wallet, is not as easy as just forcing someone to give you his spending password.
 

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I’m not so sure. Maybe I’m giving DoubleN too much credit, but if I had a billion Dollars in Bitcoin and a year with nothing to do, but think about the future, I would have carefully squirreled away little stacks of crypto in a hundred different wallets in at least the top 10 Crypto currencies and stable coins. I would have the seed phrases to those wallets hidden in the most obscure places I could think of. Maybe giving one or two to trusted family members, to help support me in prison. He had to know that he was going to get caught eventually.

Even if the Brazilians have access to phones, it is a stretch to expect anybody to remember a 12 word recovery phrase, especially while you’re breaking his fingers. Restoring a wallet, is not as easy as just forcing someone to give you his spending password.

The question is not if he got crypto but how much.

Imagine being locked up in prison and the prisoners know of your story.

Do you think he is going to leave that prison with

A. All his fingers and toes in tact and no crypto forced out of him.
B. All his fingers and toes ripped off as they force him to deliver more and more of his stash.
C. none of the above.

He would either need to ask for isolation while detained or hope to dear god that no one in there have any clue who he is.

He is far from a mastermind, he was using online wallet services during the MTI saga so I have no doubt he is probably using something at minimum like blockchain.com wallet or something similar. In fact at one point he was moving funds for users directly from exchanges he used to store the user deposits. They used this system for a very long time until users started to point out that they keep reusing the same wallet address for all clients to deposit which lead to their infamous deposit system where you had to update your deposit page with the tx id of the deposit and so many people exploited this using tx id of other deposits on the same reused wallet.

He might have some of his stash completely offline on some random encrypted wallet but really he is not that bright. The only reason MTI worked is because it had Cheri and co in charge of recruiting, without them Johann would have had nothing to steal.

He is borderline retrded and a terrible snakeoil salesmen , that is why he only started to show his head when the entire ponzi started to collapse and I recon that is part of Cheri and Co strategy to calm the users.

The only reason I want to see him extradited somewhere that will actually pressure him enough to do some sort of plea bargain to put Cheri and Co finally on the radar properly. Provide the prosecutor with all the evidence he got about the involvement of Cheri and Co so that at best he would get a lesser sentence but that is worth it if we can see Cheri and Co in Orange is the new Black.
 
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Whatever money he got left will be extorted for protection in those Brazilian prisons. I won't be surprised if some upper inmates would have access to the internet from cellphone and will know about JS story and force him to hand over his remaining crypto, finger by finger.

Where have you ever seen an easier target to extort in prison. Silly foreign chublord white guy who have millions if not billions in crypto. You don't even need to steal boxes of cash from him, just cause enough pain for him to login to his crypto wallets/exchanges and force him to transfer the coins to your own wallet.

By the time JS makes it to SA he will probably be completely broke anyway.
That sounds a very likely scenario.
 

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Why didn't he withdraw his funds if he new there were issues?
Exactly, why not take what you put in, tell your brothers and the "investors" what you know and leave, why keep withdrawing bitcoin that does not belong to you, why not say "i told you so" on that last infamous mti management zoom and finally, why do we only see this letter dated 26 June 2020, now....:unsure::sneaky:
 

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Exactly, why not take what you put in, tell your brothers and the "investors" what you know and leave, why keep withdrawing bitcoin that does not belong to you, why not say "i told you so" on that last infamous mti management zoom and finally, why do we only see this letter dated 26 June 2020, now....:unsure::sneaky:
Cause it was probably written 2 days ago
 

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Cause it was probably written 2 days ago
Yep. I'm not buying it.

Would be hilarious if Cheri now attempts something similar. A video or letter 'dated' around a similar time where she resigns, but commits to just finishing her notice period but wants nothing to do with the company.

This Bell character seems to be a little bit smarter than Lindtball and NoNeck and at least has the sense to know they committed a crime and he's trying damage control.
 

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That Usher Bell resignation letter seems very fishy.
  • Multiple resignation letters
  • Mentions 6 times that @ 3pm on 26 June 2020 he done with them.
  • He has all these issues and concerns with the company and bot in May/June 2020, but does not warn anyone else...
  • In fact, at least 8 people joined his team after 26 June (personally referred by him according to the backend leaks) and half of them using his gmail email address.
  • He made 23 withdrawals from his wallet after 26 June. Almost on a weekly basis. Why not take everything all at once?
  • If this letter was really sent on 26 June 2020, why hasn't he defended himself in public the past 18 months for his involvement? As an innocent man I would have come forward much sooner.
 

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That Usher Bell resignation letter seems very fishy.
  • He made 23 withdrawals from his wallet after 26 June. Almost on a weekly basis. Why not take everything all at once?
ding ding ding.

If he really believed any of these supposed concerns, he would have taken his money out on the same day.

Usher bell is a low life conman that uses religion (amongst other things) to pray on victims.
 
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That Usher Bell resignation letter seems very fishy.
  • Multiple resignation letters
  • Mentions 6 times that @ 3pm on 26 June 2020 he done with them.
  • He has all these issues and concerns with the company and bot in May/June 2020, but does not warn anyone else...
  • In fact, at least 8 people joined his team after 26 June (personally referred by him according to the backend leaks) and half of them using his gmail email address.
  • He made 23 withdrawals from his wallet after 26 June. Almost on a weekly basis. Why not take everything all at once?
  • If this letter was really sent on 26 June 2020, why hasn't he defended himself in public the past 18 months for his involvement? As an innocent man I would have come forward much sooner.
Certainly fishy and also not very sensible. His continued inclusion of new members to his team after "resigning" shows that he was STILL actively promoting MTI. Added to this is his continuing to benefit from what he had said was an improperly run company further incriminates him.

He and most of the other management and leaders have been hoping that Johann wouldn't be found. By keeping quiet they thought they might remain unnoticed. Now that there is a good chance that he will squeal they are panicking like startled birds. Hopefully Johann's confiscated computers still have email trails leading to all members of the management group.
 

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Can anyone recall the conference call with usher bell and cheri marks I think in 2019 when they were starting the scheme.
I can’t for the life of me remember where I saw or heard it. I think in one of the earlier discussions. Maybe no.2

I also agree. Very convenient of him to resign and continue to withdraw and benefit

Waiting patiently for cheri and neckless letter of resignation
 

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Why didn't he withdraw his funds if he new there were issues?

Big boss criminal is playing the "exit, I knew nothing" move.

That Bell idiot had multiple accounts he scammed the shtting MTI platform for free BTC and now he makes this bold statement about not getting answers.

He was happy to scam until the things collapsed, I hope the liquidators go after everyone who withdrew more than they deposited because Bell is going to have to start selling property just to cover part of what he stole.
 

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Big boss criminal is playing the "exit, I knew nothing" move.

That Bell idiot had multiple accounts he scammed the shtting MTI platform for free BTC and now he makes this bold statement about not getting answers.

He was happy to scam until the things collapsed, I hope the liquidators go after everyone who withdrew more than they deposited because Bell is going to have to start selling property just to cover part of what he stole.
I wonder how his downline idiots feel seeing him trying to show he pulled out "long before MTI got into legal trouble"? If it were me, I would be seriously pssd.
 

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There is someone on this thread who previously shared screen shots of a telegram conversation with Usher where he basically pointed out how ridiculously implausible the MTI model is, whereby Usher replied with something to the effect of “yeah so, Ive been on both sides of the outcome of scams…ive also lost alot of money with previous scams…it’s not my fault whem a platform turns out to be a scam”….

I am almost sure that convo was after he supposedly wrote this resignation letter. Would be devastating if those could resurface!!

I want to say it was someone whose “avatar” name was “whyarewehere?” or something…he spoke to usher and shared the screen shots
 
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