Mirror (non)Trading International 3 - Freemasons,Russians,and no bitcoins

[Hopfrog]

You all seem to agree there was once R 9 B worth of BTC. The question is how much is left.
Each of the founders buying a fancy house would hardly make a dent into that figure.
You seem to think there was no trading so therefore there would be no trading losses.
All the funds were in BTC so it would need some juggling to convert it to fiat to spend it. If you are right with the 9 B figure then I would say that there is a serious amount left in the form of Bitcoin.
Go wild guessing or calculating.

 

[Alton Turner Blackwood]

You all seem to agree there was once R 9 B worth of BTC. The question is how much is left.
Each of the founders buying a fancy house would hardly make a dent into that figure.
You seem to think there was no trading so therefore there would be no trading losses.
All the funds were in BTC so it would need some juggling to convert it to fiat to spend it. If you are right with the 9 B figure then I would say that there is a serious amount left in the form of Bitcoin.
Go wild guessing or calculating.

And remember that BTC had a bullrun over the last few months. There's a very real possibility that there's still close to 9Bn in that account

 

[Willie Trombone]

they will come knonking on your door...

Nobody knonks on my door! Sies!

 

[Spxdxrbxtxs]

Thanks.

I used to trade FX using MQL and I saw in one of the vid's that's what they're using so I just want to check out the statements.

Afaik there aren't any statements included in the leak - it's scraped from personal accounts, including deposits and withdrawals.

You all seem to agree there was once R 9 B worth of BTC. The question is how much is left.
Each of the founders buying a fancy house would hardly make a dent into that figure.
You seem to think there was no trading so therefore there would be no trading losses.
All the funds were in BTC so it would need some juggling to convert it to fiat to spend it. If you are right with the 9 B figure then I would say that there is a serious amount left in the form of Bitcoin.
Go wild guessing or calculating.

The R9B is a current fiat value of the plus-22k BTC.
According to the leak, at the time of the leak 14.09.2020 there was a deficit of nearly 10k BTC owed to members .

 

[PsyWulf]

Thanks.

I used to trade FX using MQL and I saw in one of the vid's that's what they're using so I just want to check out the statements.

There have been some statements posted back in thread1/2
The leaked data was source tables of the transactions and users
The trading data seemed to be completely detached from the backend data,you just had "payments" coming into the accounts

 

[Alton Turner Blackwood]

You all seem to agree there was once R 9 B worth of BTC. The question is how much is left.
Each of the founders buying a fancy house would hardly make a dent into that figure.
You seem to think there was no trading so therefore there would be no trading losses.
All the funds were in BTC so it would need some juggling to convert it to fiat to spend it. If you are right with the 9 B figure then I would say that there is a serious amount left in the form of Bitcoin.
Go wild guessing or calculating.

A year ago BTC was at R103k.
Today it's worth R395k!!!



If these guys stole less than R9bn, they should still have more than R9bn left!! Look, it is a bit more complicated than that since not everybody chipped in at the same time, but mathematically if they stole say R1bn, then they can give everybody's money back and then some.

Pay the fine for not paying tax for MIT as a business, and each of you pay your fine and penalty for not paying PAYE and not having MTI's books audited and you're free.

What am I missing here?

 

[Hopfrog]

Afaik there aren't any statements included in the leak - it's scraped from personal accounts, including deposits and withdrawals.


The R9B is a current fiat value of the plus-22k BTC.
According to the leak, at the time of the leak 14.09.2020 there was a deficit of nearly 10k BTC owed to members .

According to the leak

 

[PsyWulf]

Derp

 

[Willie Trombone]

Fin 24 twitter just now

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Lmao. These people are on top of things... So quick to the draw...

 

[Spxdxrbxtxs]

According to the leak

Well, yes.

 

[notayoba]

Back to finding the turquoise terror from Polokwane.

He was spotted in his golf shirt in CTN and then soon afterwards on a video in 'Sao Paulo' with the same shirt. Me thinks he fled in a super hurry, and might not have planned things properly.

I kept looking at hotels' interior shots to find him, I now think that video was in an airport or convention center. I actually found some shots of some airport in sao paulo with the correct floors. It might be worth looking at airports and convention centers, rather than hotels to find him. (or at least where he was, I'm sure he's long gone)

 

[PsyWulf]

Back to finding the turquoise terror from Polokwane.

He was spotted in his golf shirt in CTN and then soon afterwards on a video in 'Sao Paulo' with the same shirt. Me thinks he fled in a super hurry, and might not have planned things properly.

I kept looking at hotel's interior shots to find him, I now think that video was in an airport or convention center. I actually found some shots of some airport in sao paulo with the correct floors. It might be worth looking at airports and convention centers, rather than hotels to find him. (or at least where he was, I'm sure he's long gone)

The current whereabouts would need another video to try correlate,it can be entertaining to look into where he was 3 weeks ago of course,but unlikely to still be the case

 

[Snyper564]

Derp

I just believe they miss their 3x daily zoom calls...

 

[Hopfrog]

Maybe JS never went anywhere.
Do they have a timeshare / holiday getaway somewhere here?

 

[notayoba]

The current whereabouts would need another video to try correlate,it can be entertaining to look into where he was 3 weeks ago of course,but unlikely to still be the case

Yeah, I know he's long gone. But it has become an obsession. You have no idea how many hotel interiors I've studied in Brazil and Panama. It's driving me nuts. Anyway, back to google maps.........

 

[LinuxMan]

Maybe JS never went anywhere.
Do they have a timeshare / holiday getaway somewhere here?

Plot twist perhaps, maybe we all been played.
I'm 99% sure he is out of the country.

 

[PsyWulf]

I just believe they miss their 3x daily zoom calls...

Yep,this is literally the 3rd tier of leaders that now get to run their own show

 

[psssst]

nothing since the freemasons news...

I can say with confidence Cheri was not here as all stock stil in place and no sudden jump in demand side....-all normal.

 

[Rum Zacapa]

when I see an Afrikaans guy wearing a tie on a zoom call I immediately get suspicious. might be my german ancestors tuning me to watch out for **** that might happen in the future. nothing against afrikaans folk here but my 48 years in SA have taught me to be aware of Steinbergs and similar weird things in the business world. thankfully i don't do much business with anyone so there is not much risk of exposure. now this was a classic ponzi that a good friend of mine got me involved in, in july 2020. i got out 31 days later for good reasons, thanks MBB forum for shining the light.

 

[reg4812]

Clynton maybe? Heard from some that he's a proper sharptooth shark

Perhaps Clynton. He’s been very much in the background. He also seems more like the type.

You know DesertWrangler I have also had this feeling that the Bells masterminded this whole thing

I wonder if any one person masterminded this. Looking at the history it is almost like two or three fairly successful criminals realised that combining their "skills" they can take things to the next level (apologies if that phrase causes a sense of nausea..).

Ward/Marks + Andrew Caw have a history from at least Syntek and MDC (My Daily Choice). ("Normal" MLM?) circa 2015-2017
Ward/Marks + Caw just happen to pop up again in BTC Global circa 2017-2018 (Now bitcoin and some form of investment is involved)
Ward/Marks + Caw + Steynberg appear in MTI. 2019-202?.

JS hosted Team on Fire end 2014, i.e. he definitely knew team Ward/Marks/Caw

JS is not unfamiliar with scams that involve some concept of "investment" where money is taken from members from the get-go (Kipi circa 2015-2017, members are encouraged to pool money into a stokvel through purchasing bitcoin by depositing money into the account of a certain JNXonline (PTY) LTD (and all).

JS was also involved in a bitcoin related business with Tom Fraser (btcpromining.com...which very interestingly was up a couple of days ago, but now has gone poof). circa 2017. Same Tom Fraser is a "trusted advisor" and involved with MTI "stratcom" (even gets to sit in the front row for the class pic).

Ward/Marks (and the extended Ward/Gray minion collection) is marketing and muscle (Clynton seems allegedly to be very successful in the MLM thing. Based on him on video, if you set me on fire he will not be able to SELL me a fire extinguisher).

Steynberg/Caw is tech + "trading".

Fraser = strategy + maybe bit of seed capital?

The rest are pom pom girls, that knew what they were cheering for.

Last interesting bit, for the obsessed (and in case Trivial Pursuit - Ponzi edition ever happens). If you fire up the flux capacitor and aim it at www.steynbergsolutions.co.za/ on 13Sep2011 and you look at the scrolly "real customer" testimonials thingy (apologies all MYBB formites) something interesting happens. The testimonials are by actual people (dad, wife, etc.... and not just one but two people named Andrew...)