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warrenpridgeon

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Oh boy, the plot thickens as I initially thought it might be what they were attempting to show in their half baked "live bot trading, see trading is real" interview.

They probably only ever traded with this "super duper bot" aka free EA downloaded on demo accounts and the funny part is that the one reviewer then went to look at backtest if the amounts at the times matched yet the guy is oblivious that a demo account uses the same data feed as a real money account so you can generate the same outcomes on fake money demo account.

Clueless idiots and they all review things that they don't understand or better yet couldnt care if its real.

It has become obvious that
- Their statements in the backoffice
- Their trading video proof
are not legitimate.
Ergo... No trading is taking place and the ONLY place they can be getting money for payouts is from the incoming members "Investments".
 

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FX choice made a comment on the Crypto Analizer Channel .On his claim that he saw "proof" of trading in December, They say " Hi Crypto Analyzer! Your videos have been pointed out to us by a concerned MTI client. In your video you make the claim that on 17th December you saw that MTI was trading at FXChoice, and that information was shared with you personally. We can categorically deny that claim: no Live trading took place on MTI’s account for the whole month of December. Perhaps you were looking at one of their Demo accounts, which were very active in that month. We note that MTI statements do seem to include trades executed on our Demo servers. "
What better proof does anyone meet?Your own trader calls out your lies.
Wow wow wow! Thank goodness for fxchoice putting themselves out there. They could really help deter alot of people hopefully
 

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It also makes perfect sense now why MTI would allow someone to "look at the bot working", but not record and share it as proof. They knew that someone out there with a much keener eye may very well pick up on the fact that it's a demo account.
 

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Gary (Crypto Analizer),seems to be a sane and reasonable voice in a hectic space. I think MTI had managed to mislead and fool him to. If he wants to retain any credibility ,he should disown this as a scam and get out of it immediately.
 

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It also makes perfect sense now why MTI would allow someone to "look at the bot working", but not record and share it as proof. They knew that someone out there with a much keener eye may very well pick up on the fact that it's a demo account.

They also blacked out portions of the screen when those people DID get "access" so they couldn't ever REALLY verify the trades were taking place... Yet another case of "trust us... we talk truth only... look we're being transparent... [except where we colour in the screen so you can't see stuff]".
 

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So many people just ignore that if MTI *WAS* really trading with 13 000 BTC on everyone's behalf there's NO WAY they would move that much BTC without telling "investors" as it would cause massive panic. It would even pop up on the whale watch alerts would it not.

For reference... 13000 BTC is currently
$148 794 100
or
R2 601 505 628

That's a literal F######## ton of money. They moved a small countries money without telling anyone UNTIL the statements by FX Choice came out?!
 

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Gary (Crypto Analizer),seems to be a sane and reasonable voice in a hectic space. I think MTI had managed to mislead and fool him to. If he wants to retain any credibility ,he should disown this as a scam and get out of it immediately.

Don't be so easily tricked when there is large sums of money involved.

If you really think he is sane and reasonable then the bar for sanity is set extremely low because FXchoice should not have been required to post that before someone change their mind.

It was obvious to I assume all of us in this thread before FXchoice made any comment that MTI can only be a scam, the characters involved would have been enough proof for Gary but he still went along with it.

I personally think Gary is all too happy with referring people and getting the $$$ and when it goes bust he will just pretend to be part of the victims like every other affiliate involved in scams ie. OneCoin, Bitconnect just to point to more global reach scams that went belly up and massive youtube "influencer" who all pretended to also be a victim.

EDIT: nah Gary seems like a straight up Gangster out to steal money or a completely clueless sot. I just quickly checked that he also positively reviewed Finiko ponzi scheme operating out of Russia pretty much carbon copy of how MTI operates. Also magical traders etc etc.


The Finiko is mainly a group of professional traders that actively and efficiently trading in different markets i.e. indixes [sic], stocks, crypto currency and forex.

Trading in these markets is their main source of income which consistently earning more than 10% daily profits.



Sounds familiar at all ?

Nah, no way Gary can consistently be this retarded. He is clearly completely all in trying to making money by positively promoting scams.
 

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MTI Made an oopsie:

We note that MTI statements do seem to include trades executed on our Demo servers.

HAHAHAHA , AND IT IS FIXED.

Nothing to see here boys, we are so clueless we provide evidence from demo statements and don't even realize it. Thats how retarded we are but by all means deposit money with us because we don't need brains to operate this company while we have this magical golden goosebot.
 

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Don't be so easily tricked when there is large sums of money involved.

If you really think he is sane and reasonable then the bar for sanity is set extremely low because FXchoice should not have been required to post that before someone change their mind.

It was obvious to I assume all of us in this thread before FXchoice made any comment that MTI can only be a scam, the characters involved would have been enough proof for Gary but he still went along with it.

I personally think Gary is all too happy with referring people and getting the $$$ and when it goes bust he will just pretend to be part of the victims like every other affiliate involved in scams ie. OneCoin, Bitconnect just to point to more global reach scams that went belly up and massive youtube "influencer" who all pretended to also be a victim.

EDIT: nah Gary seems like a straight up Gangster out to steal money or a completely clueless sot. I just quickly checked that he also positively reviewed Finiko ponzi scheme operating out of Russia pretty much carbon copy of how MTI operates. Also magical traders etc etc.


The Finiko is mainly a group of professional traders that actively and efficiently trading in different markets i.e. indixes [sic], stocks, crypto currency and forex.

Trading in these markets is their main source of income which consistently earning more than 10% daily profits.



Sounds familiar at all ?

Nah, no way Gary can consistently be this retarded. He is clearly completely all in trying to making money by positively promoting scams.
That is such a sly low life menatality.
Let me ride the gravy train as long as possible, bring others in for my financial gain (knowing very well it is a scam).
Then play the victim card when it caves (To not look like the bad guy).
Then just move on to the next.
 

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That is such a sly low life menatality.
Let me ride the gravy train as long as possible, bring others in for my financial gain (knowing very well it is a scam).
Then play the victim card when it caves (To not look like the bad guy).
Then just move on to the next.

They love to do it.

With Bitconnect these affiliates who raked in literally millions of $ would even record "I was also scammed" all in tears videos just so the public will trust them right before they promote the next scam. Not even kidding, thats what Trevon dildohead did and the majority of his followers just bend over and received it again. Now he is also an expert crypto trader selling god knows what but i know hes scamming something.



“BitConnect had two top promoters. One was Trevon James and one Craig Grant. They both now promote Hex. Why? Is it because someone reached out to them and told them to?

This is reality, this is just a different face on the same situation as MTI cult leaders.
 

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Another interesting little nugget.

Well didn't expect anything more from this Gary guy. You even tell him that FX trading does not operating on SAT/SUN and his reply , "Please tell me which dates are incorrect".

Well that seals the deal, the guy is a complete moron.
 
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So I took a look at that image, even if you just use the July percentages and you do isolated counting (non compounded) or compounded, those % does not get to 9.22% for the 15 days.

I don't know who did the spreadsheet but it is almost like they didn't know what they were doing or tried in their own special way to calculate fake compounded gains over the 15 days and even fukked that up.

The only thing I can think of other than them being unable to count properly is that the image deliberately for some reason didn't include all the supposed trading days for the month because every single month % outcome is wrong based on the days shown in the screenshot.
 

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So I took a look at that image, even if you just use the July percentages and you do isolated counting (non compounded) or compounded, those % does not get to 9.22% for the 15 days.

I don't know who did the spreadsheet but it is almost like they didn't know what they were doing or tried in their own special way to calculate fake compounded gains over the 15 days and even fukked that up.

The only thing I can think of other than them being unable to count properly is that the image deliberately for some reason didn't include all the supposed trading days for the month because every single month % outcome is wrong based on the days shown in the screenshot.

Lol, you're only seeing part of the column. The formula he used was sum(z2:z28).......Google Sheets wouldn't mess that up
 

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FX choice made a comment on the Crypto Analizer Channel .On his claim that he saw "proof" of trading in December, They say " Hi Crypto Analyzer! Your videos have been pointed out to us by a concerned MTI client. In your video you make the claim that on 17th December you saw that MTI was trading at FXChoice, and that information was shared with you personally. We can categorically deny that claim: no Live trading took place on MTI’s account for the whole month of December. Perhaps you were looking at one of their Demo accounts, which were very active in that month. We note that MTI statements do seem to include trades executed on our Demo servers. "
What better proof does anyone need ?Your own trader calls out your lies.
Someone please post this on the IRS facebook page let them relook at all this
 

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Lol, you're only seeing part of the column. The formula he used was sum(z2:z28).......Google Sheets wouldn't mess that up

If he used that formula then it would be wrong. If they are trading with a daily percentage gain as reported then they would operate on daily compounded balances from day 1 to last trading day of month so just doing 1+2+3 would not show the compounded % outcome over the 20 odd trading days and if that is how they calculated it then its by default clear they don't even know how much they are earning.

Day 1 : Balance 10000 , profit: 1%
Day 2: Balance 10100 , profit 1%
Day 3: Balance 10201 , profit 1%
Day 4: Balance 10303.01 , profit 1%
Day 5: Balance 10406.04

Just counting it as 4% is wrong, the actual profit over the 4 days of trading using the starting balance of day 5 as non trading day would be 4.06% , of course the gap gets much wider when you do this over 20 days.

I would give them leeway if they reported for some reason only whole % but clearly on their spreadsheet they shouw x.xx% so this leeway falls flat.

Id go so far as to say they prob used a random number generator. They set the final outcome to be randomized between 0.40-0.60 average and set it to spit out random values to get to those randomized averaged across 20 days they input.

It is also possible they are too dumb to google for such a generator which you can find instantly and have someone input the stupid numbers day by day hahaha.
 
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