Mirror Trading International

[Venator]

At this risk of not keeping it clean, we have a general culture of accepting irrational decision making, which is why it's generally frowned upon to be an atheist (but I only believe in 0.02% fewer gods than you), or to tell children there's no Santa Claus. The biggest problem is that most education systems don't bother with silly things like teaching critical thinking and focus more on how best to pass the exam. There's a million single china teapots orbiting the sun and everyone's convinced they know what colour it is.

Ah I love a good reference to Russel's teapot. I tip my hat to you, Sir.

 

[quovadis]

Why would I..from then till now i doubled my investment

That’s amazing. Let us know your sob story when it all falls apart and everyone turns on you. It’s harder to defend yourself when you’re on record dismissing those who are trying to sound the alarm.

But for a moment consider this. You’re a bitcoin investor, you know the great benefits of bitcoin and the transparency it provides. Now ask yourself why does MTI not simply provide the wallet address showing the members funds and in doing so prove the naysayers wrong? It’s definitely not security or proprietary to withhold it?

 

[quovadis]

at least i don't shy away behind a fake name and profile pic. Got nothing to hide gents

Already on 10 btc son

Hope youre paying your tax due. That’s a large chunk of change. Hopefully no one here will do their civic duty and report you.

 

[Tman*]

That’s amazing. Let us know your sob story when it all falls apart and everyone turns on you. It’s harder to defend yourself when you’re on record dismissing those who are trying to sound the alarm.

But for a moment consider this. You’re a bitcoin investor, you know the great benefits of bitcoin and the transparency it provides. Now ask yourself why does MTI not simply provide the wallet address showing the members funds and in doing so prove the naysayers wrong? It’s definitely not security or proprietary to withhold it?

Obnoxious, Big mouth for as long as the scam runs, but sadly the shills all disappear and move into their moms basements after losing everything.

It would be a shame if someone informed MTI that this member is mot adhering to their T&c's

 

[r00igev@@r]

That’s amazing. Let us know your sob story when it all falls apart and everyone turns on you. It’s harder to defend yourself when you’re on record dismissing those who are trying to sound the alarm.

But for a moment consider this. You’re a bitcoin investor, you know the great benefits of bitcoin and the transparency it provides. Now ask yourself why does MTI not simply provide the wallet address showing the members funds and in doing so prove the naysayers wrong? It’s definitely not security or proprietary to withhold it?

kyc at the exchanges stop that. I assume they would freeze all the accounts.

 

[newby_investor]

I'm going to have another crack at the trading thing because I don't know a lot about this. Maybe @Snyper564 would be able to tell me why this wouldn't work. All the shills insist that there is trading happening so I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

If you have a bot simultaneously open a short and a long position, then wait for it to wobble a little. You close the losing one, wait fractionally longer and then close the other one, you should in theory come out slightly in the plus.

Rinse and repeat sufficiently and then you could probably post fairly consistent gains, I guess?

But this seems too simple and obvious to me, I'm sure it must be tried before, and not work well, otherwise everyone would be doing it.

I'd agree with all who have posted though that an actual statement would be pretty decent evidence of trades happening but as pointed out we haven't seen one of those yet.

 

[r00igev@@r]

I'm going to have another crack at the trading thing because I don't know a lot about this. Maybe @Snyper564 would be able to tell me why this wouldn't work. All the shills insist that there is trading happening so I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

If you have a bot simultaneously open a short and a long position, then wait for it to wobble a little. You close the losing one, wait fractionally longer and then close the other one, you should in theory come out slightly in the plus.

Rinse and repeat sufficiently and then you could probably post fairly consistent gains, I guess?

But this seems too simple and obvious to me, I'm sure it must be tried before, and not work well, otherwise everyone would be doing it.

I'd agree with all who have posted though that an actual statement would be pretty decent evidence of trades happening but as pointed out we haven't seen one of those yet.

The aggregated effect of of multiple instances of that creates another dynamic that negates it. Unless you have the best latency and get in first.
PS: We only have the JSE for that in these neck of the woods. Anything else we are sucking the hind tit of a donkey. Or a cheap VPS somewhere in say Texas or South America? Eish!

 

[Pho3nix]

I'm going to have another crack at the trading thing because I don't know a lot about this. Maybe @Snyper564 would be able to tell me why this wouldn't work. All the shills insist that there is trading happening so I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

If you have a bot simultaneously open a short and a long position, then wait for it to wobble a little. You close the losing one, wait fractionally longer and then close the other one, you should in theory come out slightly in the plus.

Rinse and repeat sufficiently and then you could probably post fairly consistent gains, I guess?

But this seems too simple and obvious to me, I'm sure it must be tried before, and not work well, otherwise everyone would be doing it.

I'd agree with all who have posted though that an actual statement would be pretty decent evidence of trades happening but as pointed out we haven't seen one of those yet.

Somewhat like martingale trading? Eventually it blows the account. That’s why people don’t use it

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

If you have a bot simultaneously open a short and a long position, then wait for it to wobble a little. You close the losing one, wait fractionally longer and then close the other one, you should in theory come out slightly in the plus.

Rinse and repeat sufficiently and then you could probably post fairly consistent gains, I guess?

with how volatile and liquid forex and crypto markets are the "winning" side could turn around and become a loser pretty quickly

plus the spreads, fees and what not involved will destroy any hope of consistent wins

 

[r00igev@@r]

WordPress is pretty good, but I wouldn't want to do my Internet banking on it.

40% of the Internet uses it apparently. But why waste a good troll opportunity?

 

[IndigoIdentity]

I'm going to have another crack at the trading thing because I don't know a lot about this. Maybe @Snyper564 would be able to tell me why this wouldn't work. All the shills insist that there is trading happening so I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

If you have a bot simultaneously open a short and a long position, then wait for it to wobble a little. You close the losing one, wait fractionally longer and then close the other one, you should in theory come out slightly in the plus.

Rinse and repeat sufficiently and then you could probably post fairly consistent gains, I guess?

But this seems too simple and obvious to me, I'm sure it must be tried before, and not work well, otherwise everyone would be doing it.

I'd agree with all who have posted though that an actual statement would be pretty decent evidence of trades happening but as pointed out we haven't seen one of those yet.

The thing is, we have well known and qualified professionals coming out to tell you that these gains simply do not exist.

You have regulators coming out to tell you to be weary because things don’t up.

You have the previous broker coming out to tell you that the claims being made are simply false.

You have private individuals with personal investment experience telling you that this isn’t right.

Then you have MTI and various shills telling you to believe because there is money being made.

Why after all of that would you be inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to MTI? Based on their background, do they honestly deserve the benefit here?

 

[Snyper564]

The thing is, we have well known and qualified professionals coming out to tell you that these gains simply do not exist.

You have regulators coming out to tell you to be weary because things don’t up.

You have the previous broker coming out to tell you that the claims being made are simply false.

You have private individuals with personal investment experience telling you that this isn’t right.

Then you have MTI and various shills telling you to believe because there is money being made.

Why after all of that would you be inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to MTI? Based on their background, do they honestly deserve the benefit here?

Simple: dont ask any questions, we dont need any negativity and just trust

 

[IndigoIdentity]

Simple dont ask any questions, we dont need any negativity and just trust

Would have worked too if it wasn’t for those pesky common sensibles...

 

[Snyper564]

Would have worked too if it wasn’t for those pesky common sensibles...

pls you are creating confusion none of that is needed [blocked]

 

[IndigoIdentity]

pls you are creating confusion none of that is needed [blocked]

Quick, burn it with fire before it drains your intelligence!

 

[r00igev@@r]

Quick, burn it with fire before it drains your intelligence!

We don't have Prophet Johan anymore to faka umthakathi! R50 in the collection bowl and you are sorted.

 

[newby_investor]

The thing is, we have well known and qualified professionals coming out to tell you that these gains simply do not exist.

You have regulators coming out to tell you to be weary because things don’t up.

You have the previous broker coming out to tell you that the claims being made are simply false.

You have private individuals with personal investment experience telling you that this isn’t right.

Then you have MTI and various shills telling you to believe because there is money being made.

Why after all of that would you be inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to MTI? Based on their background, do they honestly deserve the benefit here?

I mean I get your point, but I'm actually really hoping that this isn't just a scam somehow. Because I now discover that a friend of mine who is about to be retrenched is in for a good 6-figure amount of money.

I realise it's probably a vain hope, but the whole situation has me feeling quite crummy at the moment.

 

[Bandersnatch]

I mean I get your point, but I'm actually really hoping that this isn't just a scam somehow. Because I now discover that a friend of mine who is about to be retrenched is in for a good 6-figure amount of money.

It is a scam.

Also, wrt crypto trading, you're ignoring the trade fees per transaction which at Bitstamp are about 0.25% even with churn the best I ever got to was 0.12% and that was trading 30 million+ a month.

 

[Venator]

I mean I get your point, but I'm actually really hoping that this isn't just a scam somehow. Because I now discover that a friend of mine who is about to be retrenched is in for a good 6-figure amount of money.

That's terrible. But believe me, we are ALL hoping that we are wrong and that this whole thing isn't a scam. Just the thought of what people stand to lose is so worrying.|
But, unfortunately, reality isn't based on hopes and dreams. Every piece of valid and verifiable evidence we've unearthed keeps pointing in the direction of MTI being a full-on scam. What's worse, the "evidence" that MTI provided about their trading also turned out to have been edited both to specifically obscure where the information is coming from, as well as to make it appear to be something which it isn't.

Absolutely no claims that MTI have made could be verified, and even when they attempted to show "transparency" it has been shown that they weren't being transparent at all. If you ever thought a politician's double-speak is annoying, MTI takes the cake.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

Anyways, to me it is becoming abundantly clear that MTI is a concoction of carefully crafted and meticulously prepared methods of money extraction.

In other words, A very well planned scam.

At some point there was likely a meeting that went something like:

- we know bitcoin and ai are the current hype
- we know pyramid schemes can make money
- we know if we mix mlm into this that we can extract larger volumes
- we know that if you want to grow a big business then you need a cult following

You’re dealing with people who have amassed a lot of experience here when it comes to money extraction.

There is literally no way that this so cult like simply by chance... No no no, someone has literally studied cult psychology and incorporated this into the operational tactics.

It is actually a really well thought out plan and I’m sure their exit strategy is too.