Mirror Trading International

[daneard]

I mean I get your point, but I'm actually really hoping that this isn't just a scam somehow. Because I now discover that a friend of mine who is about to be retrenched is in for a good 6-figure amount of money.

I realise it's probably a vain hope, but the whole situation has me feeling quite crummy at the moment.

It's a scam. Identical to basically all crypto scams that came before it. And those being scammed have exactly the same response to the "haters" that their previously scammed forefathers (or regular fathers) did. A few pages back I posted a video on the fall of OneCoin. Exactly the same. It is hard to get people to convince themselves and accept that they have been duped, as they really WANT to BELIEVE it is a real opportunity. But alas, evidence is apparently not worth much to those who continue to drink the Kool-Aid. The wisest of the scammed are those who pull their original investment before it collapses (ie asap), as fictitious money doesn't pay the bills.

 

[r00igev@@r]

@PsyWulf Here are some more videos
This guy does an excellent job explaining why MTI is a financial service that should have a FSP number.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

I mean I get your point, but I'm actually really hoping that this isn't just a scam somehow. Because I now discover that a friend of mine who is about to be retrenched is in for a good 6-figure amount of money.

I realise it's probably a vain hope, but the whole situation has me feeling quite crummy at the moment.

If you really want to help, seek support for dealing with cult members.

Wish I was joking but in fact that is your only hope here I think. Normal reasoning will not help because they have been conditioned to distrust and fear the worst from any person who bears the information that you bring.

 

[aofafrica]

Assume MTI is real.

Just imagine what it would do to inflation worldwide?

Buying shares in superyacht & private jet builders seems sensible.

 

[Snyper564]

@PsyWulf Here are some more videos
This guy does an excellent job explaining why MTI is a financial service that should have a FSP number.

I see what you did there used squares to hide the triangles?

 

[IndigoIdentity]

Assume MTI is real.

Just imagine what it would do to inflation worldwide?

Buying shares in superyacht & private jet builders seems sensible.

Just imagine MTI was real, the superyacht and private jet builders would all be signed up with them...

 

[r00igev@@r]

What is your superpower? Look it is in Mexico.

 

[aofafrica]

Just a stupid question /what happens to the (Trainers )doing the vids when this collapses .are they held accountable?

It is hard to prove culpability (intention to defraud).
Their defence will be "I also got scammed". FSCA and hopefully further warnings mean that it becomes harder and harder for these morons to deny culpability.

 

[Def-e-nition]

That's terrible. But believe me, we are ALL hoping that we are wrong and that this whole thing isn't a scam. Just the thought of what people stand to lose is so worrying.|
But, unfortunately, reality isn't based on hopes and dreams. Every piece of valid and verifiable evidence we've unearthed keeps pointing in the direction of MTI being a full-on scam. What's worse, the "evidence" that MTI provided about their trading also turned out to have been edited both to specifically obscure where the information is coming from, as well as to make it appear to be something which it isn't.

Absolutely no claims that MTI have made could be verified, and even when they attempted to show "transparency" it has been shown that they weren't being transparent at all. If you ever thought a politician's double-speak is annoying, MTI takes the cake.

Couldn't agree more. There's no persuading any of them otherwise.
But hey: I'm just a doubting Thomas. What do i know.
Im also praying , that it is real .

 

[newby_investor]

Assume MTI is real.

Just imagine what it would do to inflation worldwide?

Buying shares in superyacht & private jet builders seems sensible.

Even if it were real and they'd hit upon some magical thing, their returns would start to diminish over time. You can't just have exponential growth into infinity.

Even if there were real trading going on, they would probably get big enough that real problems would be caused in the market.

 

[Venator]

Even if it were real and they'd hit upon some magical thing, their returns would start to diminish over time. You can't just have exponential growth into infinity.

Even if there were real trading going on, they would probably get big enough that real problems would be caused in the market.

Correctomundo. MTI claims that the trading profits that are given to members only accounts for 40% of the "actual" trading profit they make. So, at an average of 10% profit per month to the members, that must mean that the "true" profit they make on their entire trading capital must be 25%.
Given their current total apparent BTC wallet size, it follows that a monthly compounded trading profit of 25% will result in MTI owning every single BTC in existence in just over 3 years.

Now c'mon, that's just plain silly.

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

Guys, there is no ways this thing is real so I don’t think we need to even go there. There is no such thing as magic, only smoke and mirrors.

 

[r00igev@@r]

Correctomundo. MTI claims that the trading profits that are given to members only accounts for 40% of the "actual" trading profit they make. So, at an average of 10% profit per month to the members, that must mean that the "true" profit they make on their entire trading capital must be 25%.
Given their current total apparent BTC wallet size, it follows that a monthly compounded trading profit of 25% will result in MTI owning every single BTC in existence in just over 3 years.

Now c'mon, that's just plain silly.

So our mate here who scored 40% was off the back of a 80% trading profit?

 

[Venator]

So our mate here who scored 40% was off the back of a 80% trading profit?

In a ponzi you can pick pretty much any figure you want

Guys, there is no ways this thing is real so I don’t think we need to even go there. There is no such thing as magic, only smoke and mirrors.

Lies lies lies!!! You ever seen a levitating superconducting magnet or quantum teleportation? That's about as close to magic as we've ever come haha.

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

Some more articles repeating the FSCA stern warnings:

https://coingeek.com/south-africa-regulator-warns-vs-170m-firm-mirror-trading/

https://tokenpost.com/South-Africas...stment-firm-Mirror-Trading-International-5703

 

[LourensdL]

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Yes I know I said goodbye but when checking in I saw this. I don't know if I should be honoured or creeped out!

Seriously! Is this an attempt to intimidate me to see your ways?

What is next, are you organizing a hit man?

I feel so sorry for you guys who obviously have no life.

You should try it, be brave. Step out from behind you keyboard and maybe, if you have enough courage, go outside. There is a whole world out there. Meet real people and have real interactions with them. Be strong, don't cry, you can do it.

How on earth do you justify actions like that in a rational manner? What is going on in your minds? You need help people, you need serious help. You need to learn to not want to revenge on anybody who do not agree with you. Your actions are quite disturbing.

 

[maverick83]

With regards to serial victims... I know people who know it's dodgy but claim they are beating the system because they sign up under themselves and get that 10% bonus out and then repeat... But they are actually just stealing others money here..

Even this tells us a story about the "victims". Lets say what MTI is doing is legit (I am by no means saying it is!), and a member finds a way to cheat the system, that in itself is unethical and speaks volumes on the moral compass of the individual!

I was very surprised by my friend who responded fiercely to me when I said this that MLM is a pyramid ponzi scheme. Basically asking me to look at what the definition of a pyramid scheme is because MTI is not that..?? When questioned about the fact that the top management of MTI was involved in previous scams, he acknowledged that he knew this, but that his "investment" is still growing so its not a problem for him! He even managed to point me in the direction of another ponzi scheme and offered me a referral link there too - Finiko

Seems I didn't know my friend that well after all...

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

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Guys, I suggest that we just ignore the Trolls on this thread - simply do not answer them - its that simple.

All it does is add unnecessary pages and rubbish, which detracts readers from the real information and message that we are aiming to get out there.
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[bwana]

Knock it off with the doxing please - it's against forum policy and may result in you being denied further access to this thread.

Thanks

 

[IndigoIdentity]

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Yes I know I said goodbye but when checking in I saw this. I don't know if I should be honoured or creeped out!

Seriously! Is this an attempt to intimidate me to see your ways?

What is next, are you organizing a hit man?

I feel so sorry for you guys who obviously have no life.

You should try it, be brave. Step out from behind you keyboard and maybe, if you have enough courage, go outside. There is a whole world out there. Meet real people and have real interactions with them. Be strong, don't cry, you can do it.

How on earth do you justify actions like that in a rational manner? What is going on in your minds? You need help people, you need serious help. You need to learn to not want to revenge on anybody who do not agree with you. Your actions are quite disturbing.

You sound like you’re living with paranoid schizophrenia, no one here actually wants to hurt you... It’s the opposite actually... we all would like to help.

Bring proof, I’ll join your down line too.

Edit: If you’ve capped your down line or gains in some way then I will
join one that you suggest, family member perhaps or whoever it doesn’t matter as you’re going to benefit at the end of the day right?