Mirror Trading International

[Ross69]

Not sure if OneCoin has been mentioned here, but I just watched a short video on YouTube.... eerily similar to MTI, with different (seemingly smarter) characters. All the same red flags

Edit: hadn't finished watching it. It is basically identical, all the way down to "us v them", "cult mentality" and no amount of evidence changed the victims/ investors minds .... good watch

Similar to CROWD1 .. ? (selling educational "packages")

 

[D@leW]

That's terrible. But believe me, we are ALL hoping that we are wrong and that this whole thing isn't a scam. Just the thought of what people stand to lose is so worrying.|
But, unfortunately, reality isn't based on hopes and dreams. Every piece of valid and verifiable evidence we've unearthed keeps pointing in the direction of MTI being a full-on scam. What's worse, the "evidence" that MTI provided about their trading also turned out to have been edited both to specifically obscure where the information is coming from, as well as to make it appear to be something which it isn't.

Absolutely no claims that MTI have made could be verified, and even when they attempted to show "transparency" it has been shown that they weren't being transparent at all. If you ever thought a politician's double-speak is annoying, MTI takes the cake.

I think hoping is the wrong word, because it assumes there's a chance this might not be a scam. Wishing we were wrong fits better, though I think mostly we wish that scammers didn't exist in the first place, or at least they when they get found out there are always consequences for them in proportion to how many poor and retired people go bankrupt as a result.

 

[D@leW]

Where do we find the "Limited LIVE view of trades and pool balance" what will be "added to the back-office Friday 21/08/2020"? I can't see it.

 

[Snyper564]

Where do we find the "Limited LIVE view of trades and pool balance" what will be "added to the back-office Friday 21/08/2020"? I can't see it.

"not ready yet" to be released this week, super keen to see this

 

[adslrouter]

Thanks for the advertisement. Proud of what i accomplished. From working for a boss to unemployed, to success....but you turds would not understand, got better things to do than wasting my time here. Cheers

I would rather be poor.........than to take other people's money, at those people's cost, then bragging about it!!!

WHY CAN YOU NOT BRING PROOF -- I WILL ALSO BRING MY MONEY THEN

Get your upline, leaders, directors and ceo together, show the proof, and you will basically get minimum 20 odd people from this thread alone to join. Easy money for you.........if you can show logical and actual existing proof.

But no.......life is wrong, the system is wrong, the world is wrong, every breathing thing is wrong. People do not believe. People must better themselves through your mlm system. People must wake-up.

Only you are right, but you can not give proof..........makes one think, or rather makes one realize......

 

[Snyper564]

I would rather be poor.........than to take other people's money, at those people's cost, then bragging about it!!!

WHY CAN YOU NOT BRING PROOF -- I WILL ALSO BRING MY MONEY THEN

Get your upline, leaders, directors and ceo together, show the proof, and you will basically get minimum 20 odd people from this thread alone to join. Easy money for you.........if you can show logical and actual existing proof.

But no.......life is wrong, the system is wrong, the world is wrong, every breathing thing is wrong. People do not believe. People must better themselves through your mlm system. People must wake-up.

Only you are right, but you can not give proof..........makes one think, or rather makes one realize......

Hey not only would you get us but we can join the fight and actually help you get more people. It is to your detriment not to show it, you have nothing to gain but so much to lose.... Its just so simple why waste everyone's time...

 

[adslrouter]

Enjoy. Posting proof would mean nothing to you. Haters will be haters, trolls will stay trolls. Good night gentlemen.

Read my words slowly........you just confirmed that the proof does not exist.

 

[fismail]

Email I sent , got $150 in the "pool"

my enquiry @ 20H22 on 23/08/2020

In the back office it indicates statement run in progress for the past few days.
Latest statement I have on Sunday 23 August 2020 is for Friday 21 August 2020.
Please advise and also explain more in what exactly is CryptoTrading since from the info I have read when logging into back office it is not clear to me.

MTI response @ 00H53 on 24/08/2020

Thank you for contacting Support
The 'statement run' notification is a glitch that we are trying to resolve. Please note, we don't trade on weekends, that's why the last statement on the back office is for Friday, 21 August.
With regards to the crypto trading - that means we are trading in a space where only crypto is traded and not the forex market where fiat currencies are traded as well.

my response back @ 10H58 on 24/08/2020

WHEN will the Crypto trading statements or daily results be available.
As we had a daily statement on the Forex bot , should this not be visible as a basic function on the Crypto bot as well.
As a member entrusting MTI with my BTC , how can I be certain that Crypto trading is indeed happening, ie I would like to see proof of actual Crypto trades.
This is not questioning or saying that anyone is lying , I just want the proof as it was given in a previous iteration re Forex bot activities.

Message when logging on to back office that pops up.

Change of Broker and Trade
As a result of the current situation with the FSCA, as mentioned above, MTI has changed from FOREX trading to Crypto’s and we are thoroughly excited about this change.
We have been testing a product in the crypto space for a number of months and the performance of the BOT has been exciting. MTI Management, under the guidance of Johann Steynberg, has decided to move MTI into a pure crypto space. This change will be affected on Friday 21 August 2020.
We are very excited about the change and assure our members that our focus has not and will not change. Our aim is to service our members and to GROW Your Bitcoin. Nothing in the back office will change, daily statements will continue and so will communications around results achieved.
During this break from FOREX trading, MTI will continue to seek a trading licence so as to be as compliant as possible. Once this has been achieved, MTI will retake our position in the FOREX Space. We anticipate that this will take no longer than 4 weeks, after which we will then be ADDING the FOREX trading as an additional BOT for members to benefit from, actively then trading FOREX AND CRYPTO’S. The purpose of this change is to offer more to our members and to ensure that MTI continues to help you Grow Your Bitcoin!
• MTI FOREX trading is on hold
• New, tested Crypto BOT will be going live on Fri 21 August 2020
• FOREX BOT will be reintroduced after some weeks
• MTI will continue to help members grow their bitcoin as we have done for the last 18 months
• MTI can change its model to better suit industry requirements to the benefit of all members and without a break in services.

 

[D@leW]

I would rather be poor.........than to take other people's money, at those people's cost, then bragging about it!!!

WHY CAN YOU NOT BRING PROOF -- I WILL ALSO BRING MY MONEY THEN

Get your upline, leaders, directors and ceo together, show the proof, and you will basically get minimum 20 odd people from this thread alone to join. Easy money for you.........if you can show logical and actual existing proof.

But no.......life is wrong, the system is wrong, the world is wrong, every breathing thing is wrong. People do not believe. People must better themselves through your mlm system. People must wake-up.

Only you are right, but you can not give proof..........makes one think, or rather makes one realize......

Perhaps the intention here is to register as a Mirror Traditional International Church of Bitcoin so as to gain tax-free status. One of the requirements for setting up a church is lack of evidence for what you preach, so I think this is just a clever way to legally avoid taxes.

 

[D@leW]

Read my words slowly........you just confirmed that the proof does not exist.

I think what he meant was:
You can't handle the proof!*

*to be read with a Jack Nicholson accent

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

Email I sent , got $150 in the "pool"

my enquiry @ 20H22 on 23/08/2020



MTI response @ 00H53 on 24/08/2020



my response back @ 10H58 on 24/08/2020

The cracks are starting to show up. I said weeks ago that when the time is close to D-day, the more 'major changes' will be announced.

 

[fismail]

The cracks are starting to show up. I said weeks ago that when the time is close to D-day, the more 'major changes' will be announced.

Unexplained "outages"
What I cannot fathom is that the CEO (superstar) is most likely the only one who knows what is actually happening and whether all is fine and dandy or a Titanic that is taking on water.
Everyone else based on info garnered in this thread is just going along for the ride and adding more and more to the downlines and coming out with trading / training videos and how to choose your friends and family and not be negative and positive.
For me , 24x7 Crypto Trading so the activities on trade should be available in real time and if its a issue of reporting not available then at minimum aggregate by hour.

 

[Snyper564]

Email I sent , got $150 in the "pool"

my enquiry @ 20H22 on 23/08/2020



MTI response @ 00H53 on 24/08/2020



my response back @ 10H58 on 24/08/2020

how dare you ask these questions!

 

[adslrouter]

there's a whatsapp link. Your not signing up for anything. Click the button. It will come directly to me

why where you still on here at the time of this quoted post last night? wait, don't tell me..............

...............you and your up line were promised an extra 10% for getting someone from this thread to join, but valid for Sunday evening only........but still do not, we repeat, do never, ever give or show proof though....

.....do not tell the new recruits this secret, but........the Extra 10% will be from the extra profits, because btc is more volatile and can be traded 7 days of the week........

 

[Snyper564]

So let me just create this scenario.

1. There is 10 000 btc in the pool
2. New person joins with 1000 USD worth of BTC and introduces their USD Billionaire uncle.
3. Uncle cant believe the returns etc and decides to place his 100 000 BTC in the pool - crazy example but follow the logic.
4. New person now is owed 10 000 BTC based on 10% referral bonus - um who is gonna foot this? How? Yes its an extreme scenario but its totally possible

 

[Venator]

So let me just create this scenario.

1. There is 10 000 btc in the pool
2. New person joins with 1000 USD worth of BTC and introduces their USD Billionaire uncle.
3. Uncle cant believe the returns etc and decides to place his 100 000 BTC in the pool - crazy example but follow the logic.
4. New person now is owed 10 000 BTC based on 10% referral bonus - um who is gonna foot this? How? Yes its an extreme scenario but its totally possible

What's this? How dare you come here with basic logic or reasonable questions? Away with you, negative Nancy!

 

[Snyper564]

What's this? How dare you come here with basic logic or reasonable questions? Away with you, negative Nancy!

 

[GreyWolfine]

Hello guys. Just wondering out of curiosity, isn't these MTI soldiers that is popping into this thread breaking some sort of MTI rules or something?

Saw a few days ago someone posted a picture from MTI that said MTI members shouldn't get mixed up with family, friends or others that are negative towards MTI. Can't remember where I saw the picture or the exact wording and can't find it at the moment.

Just wondering.

 

[fismail]

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*snigger*
*chuckle*
*chortle*

 

[Snyper564]

Hello guys. Just wondering out of curiosity, isn't these MTI soldiers that is popping into this thread breaking some sort of MTI rules or something?

Saw a few days ago someone posted a picture from MTI that said MTI members shouldn't get mixed up with family, friends or others that are negative towards MTI. Can't remember where I saw the picture or the exact wording and can't find it at the moment.

Just wondering.

Here:


leaving this here again:

As some of you know I love podcasts. I have already linked a few con artist podcasts from my favourite network parcast another batch I like listening to from them is their Cults podcasts. Where they delve deep into the psychology around cults etc.

Read that statement from MTI carefully and they have just triggered what is known as the "us vs them" mentality.

This “us vs. them” mentality ultimately leads to cult members isolating themselves socially from friends and family. They replace those relationships with new ones inside the cult.

They are clearly drawing the line and say make a choice...

Remember that post earlier... Your tribe your vibe..

FOUND IT!