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D@leW

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I must same I'm not very impressed with the performance of this new crypto-bot. Are they perhaps slowing down profits on purpose to reduce the amount they need to pay out, especially to the people taking "profits" from other people's investments? Of course it's really the FCSA to blame for this, but just hang in there until they get their FSP license.
 

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Email I sent , got $150 in the "pool"

my enquiry @ 20H22 on 23/08/2020



MTI response @ 00H53 on 24/08/2020



my response back @ 10H58 on 24/08/2020

Update on this
put in withdrawal request as per below

withdrawal request from your MTI account at 2020-08-24 21:08:21GMT
paid out to Luno 25 Aug 2020 14H27

whatever "scam" - deliberate inverted commas is being run , is as mentioned in later threads quite well thought out in terms of whoever is withdrawing actually getting the BTC back.
the ace in the hole would be the elusive wallets on the MTI side where as mentioned one can confirm and validate balances
 

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The cracks are starting to show up. I said weeks ago that when the time is close to D-day, the more 'major changes' will be announced.

Update on this
My response sent on 24 Aug 2020, 10:58 still has not been answered.
So as passionate as they are about the "Crypto" bot , they at this point have been unable to produce said statement/s despite Friday 21 Aug 2020 being go-live with it.
Again if the CE is also the head programmer , one wonders what sort of business continuity plan is in place if anything must happen.


 

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I must same I'm not very impressed with the performance of this new crypto-bot. Are they perhaps slowing down profits on purpose to reduce the amount they need to pay out, especially to the people taking "profits" from other people's investments? Of course it's really the FCSA to blame for this, but just hang in there until they get their FSP license.
How has neno's network connected coffee machine been doing?
 

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just hang in there until they get their FSP license.

I feel like they had one chance at that and blew it, in my mind it’s like charging for VAT without being a VAT vendor... If you need to be told that you need an FSP licence then you’re doing it completely wrong.
 

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Update on this
put in withdrawal request as per below

withdrawal request from your MTI account at 2020-08-24 21:08:21GMT
paid out to Luno 25 Aug 2020 14H27

whatever "scam" - deliberate inverted commas is being run , is as mentioned in later threads quite well thought out in terms of whoever is withdrawing actually getting the BTC back.
the ace in the hole would be the elusive wallets on the MTI side where as mentioned one can confirm and validate balances

It's no surprise at all....it's the very principle of how any Ponzi works. People are told they can withdraw freely, and many do. In a "normal" situation, every single person should be able to withdraw everything they have, and once everyone has done that the remaining balance is zero. In a Ponzi, the thing collapses when more people take money out than what is actually available. I.e, no investment actually takes place, and the "growth" which is attributed to each account is completely fictitious.

To plainly illustrate it, let's say the scheme starts taking on investors, and let's say there are 1000 investors, and each investor puts in $1000.
For the sake of simplicity, let's just say that we stick with those 1000 people and that no new investors are recruited.
So, right off the bat the investment capital is $1000000.
Now the "investment firm" claims that they start trading, and let's say their monthly compounded interest rate is 10%.
Again for simplicity, let's say that in the span of 6 months, nobody takes out their investments.
Over those 6 months the firm would indicate to the investors that each person now has a total of roughly $1770, and a theoretical total capital of $1770000, but in reality there's still only $1000000 (Assuming that the scamsters haven't taken anything out on their own already).
With $1000000 available, about 565 people could withdraw their lovely $1770 investments, but the final 435 will be left with nothing.

What do you think will happen after a year?
After a year the indicated trading capital would be around $3140000...but again, there is actually still only $1000000.
If those 1000 people then decide to start pulling out their "$3140 investments", about 320 people will get their full withdrawal, whereas the remaining 680 people are left with nothing.

So yes, people will get paid out, and many will "profit" from this....but those profits are entirely stolen by proxy from other investors.
 
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I feel like they had one chance at that and blew it, in my mind it’s like charging for VAT without being a VAT vendor... If you need to be told that you need an FSP licence then you’re doing it completely wrong.
not only that they admitting it too

"FSCA warns the public that MTI is not licensed to conduct the proclaimed business that they are conducting and that they are aware of the need for a FSP licence. "
 

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not only that they admitting it too

"FSCA warns the public that MTI is not licensed to conduct the proclaimed business that they are conducting and that they are aware of the need for a FSP licence. "

Yah that’s the funny part, don’t need one until you do :)
 

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It's no surprise at all....it's the very principle of how any Ponzi works. People are told they can withdraw freely, and many do. In a "normal" situation, every single person should be able to withdraw everything they have, and once everyone has done that the remaining balance is zero. In a Ponzi, the thing collapses when more people take money out than what is actually available. I.e, no investment actually takes place, and the "growth" which is attributed to each account is completely fictitious.

To plainly illustrate it, let's say the scheme starts taking on investors, and let's say there are 1000 investors, and each investor puts in $1000.
For the sake of simplicity, let's just say that we stick with those 1000 people and that no new investors are recruited.
So, right off the bat the investment capital is $1000000.
Now the "investment firm" claims that they start trading, and let's say their monthly compounded interest rate is 10%.
Again for simplicity, let's say that in the span of 6 months, nobody takes out their investments.
Over those 6 months the firm would indicate to the investors that each person now has a total of roughly $1770, and a theoretical total capital of $1770000, but in reality there's still only $1000000 (Assuming that the scamsters haven't taken anything out on their own already).
With $1000000 available, about 565 people could withdraw their lovely $1770 investments, but the final 435 will be left with nothing.

So yes, people will get paid out, and many will "profit" form this....but those profits are entirely stolen by proxy from other investors.

My point was to say I put USD $150 in to reap the rewards of the CryptoBot which is 24x7x365

Nothing happened from Friday 21 Aug 2020 when I put the BTC in
The member support cannot answer my questions about the trading performance of the CryptoBot
I cannot see any amounts being deducted from my balance that I put in , so I withdrew the full whack in terms of what was put in was taken out.

Remaining balance is 0 BTC or USD

From a "profit" perspective this transaction was a waste of keyboard time as there was none.

Oh well , will watch the usual news for more updates.
 

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My point was to say I put USD $150 in to reap the rewards of the CryptoBot which is 24x7x365

Nothing happened from Friday 21 Aug 2020 when I put the BTC in
The member support cannot answer my questions about the trading performance of the CryptoBot
I cannot see any amounts being deducted from my balance that I put in , so I withdrew the full whack in terms of what was put in was taken out.

Remaining balance is 0 BTC or USD

From a "profit" perspective this transaction was a waste of keyboard time as there was none.

Oh well , will watch the usual news for more updates.
the crypto bot still only operates monday to friday
 

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the crypto bot still only operates monday to friday
No man, you Datsun driver. Cheri said that they need to tweak it for the weekends because in crypto week-ends are different! :laugh:

I think its because they use the weekend for the binary calculation and the run takes longer than the so-called daily trading profit run. Don't think they can overlap the two?
 

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No man, you Datsun driver. Cheri said that they need to tweak it for the weekends because in crypto week-ends are different! :laugh:

I think its because they use the weekend for the binary calculation and the run takes longer than the so-called daily trading profit run. Don't think they can overlap the two?

No no no no, there's a BONUS run when the crypto bull bot has some energy left at the end of the week. Because, you know, trading happens in a sort of roulette manner, and if you can get your bot on that ball as it takes another rotation through the trading markets then you can win that binary bonus.

FFS :ROFL:
 

D@leW

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the crypto bot still only operates monday to friday
Supposedly it'll be 24x7 from this weekend, but thus far the returns aren't very good (they're actually excellent, just not unbelievable as the forex bot). Weirdly they also show competing positions, i.e. sell & buy positions taken that overlap, but are considered part of a different trade by the bot. They only way to even do that is to have the trades in different accounts using a different bot (or variation of the bot). Can't guess at lot sizes without an account with funds in it.
 

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For those who listen to podcasts, here is one from a popular podcaster specifically on scams, and the type of person that would get involved.

If you dont use Google podcasts, just look for Jordan Harbinger.... his latest episode.

 

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Update on this
put in withdrawal request as per below

withdrawal request from your MTI account at 2020-08-24 21:08:21GMT
paid out to Luno 25 Aug 2020 14H27

whatever "scam" - deliberate inverted commas is being run , is as mentioned in later threads quite well thought out in terms of whoever is withdrawing actually getting the BTC back.
the ace in the hole would be the elusive wallets on the MTI side where as mentioned one can confirm and validate balances

When I mentioned that it was a well thought out plan, it’s not in reference to the fact that people will get paid out... until they don’t... it’s in reference the fact that the people behind mti seem to be using every trick in the book to make this into something big.

The manipulation, cult like behavior and lies are all intentional and part of their recipe for success in what they do... scam people...
 
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