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Wary GOM said:
From what I understand of protection of private information, it is up to the holder of that information to take due procaution that the data are secure. So I think the arguments would come down to how easily a "normal" computer user could access the data (i.e. the level of secturity or how insecure the system was). Making information that can be gained by any computer user is surely not the same as making public secure and evidently private information?
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I think the important thing to note in regards to this breach is that the information made public has been redacted insofar as the general members are concerned. The publication of the unredacted data specifically relating to the identified accounts could be argued to have been released in the public interest or have been obtained by any competent PAIA request as it relates to the direct disbursement of members funds in excess of what is disclosed (ie. undisclosed founders mechanisms, accounts claimed to be on behalf of others, lack of adherence to international and local statutory financial AML/KYC laws) and adherence to the terms and conditions of the scheme.
 
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Surely there must be something illegal about their pretend lawyers as well? There must be a legal body that this can be reported to.
 
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warrenpridgeon said:
Reminder... there is no bot :p
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As pointed out there would be costs associated with moving the bitcoin around as well but let us assume that there is a bot and that they are trading. That would mean they are actually paying the traders.
Now with everyone taking their slice as members, leadership, founders, and referrals which accounts for 100% of the income split, then there is nothing left to pay traders.
If there is nothing to pay traders then there is no trading and no BOT. Which is a contradiction!
Which would logically mean that the only alternative is that the scheme is being run as a ponzi.
There is no rationality in these people. Is them and the haters.
God Bless and Much Success.
 
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On the multi million Rand house purchase:
I have a feeling we will discover occupational rental is being paid, and that payment and transfer are scheduled for some future date.

This way the agent and the seller treat it as sold, but our heroes are not bound.

Breach of contract clearly isn't a concern
 
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D@leW said:
Still waiting for the call from the lawyers. For any type of defamation claim they have to prove damages, which will be zero if they are just "investing" (can't see how anything I've done has materially impacted MTI's trading record). If the claim is because of loss of possible recruits (10% recruitment bonus are quite lucrative) then they are admitting to providing financial services without the required accreditation, which is illegal. I'm fairly sure you can't sue for damages for losses from illegal activities.

Edit - This is just treats from random "investors" that I live close to. I doubt I'm important enough to get any threats from any founders.
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They can sue you for damages and ask for you to pay them in bitcoin into their MTI scam account.:ROFL:
 
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Didn’t Cheri embark on a marketing campaign over the last few weeks using Marketing organizations registered in India? Oh the irony.
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It’s dumbfounding how they choose to utilize the cheapest options available for things, you’d think that people who are trying to build a well established and long lasting business would opt to make use of good quality solutions, especially when you have a small fortune available to you right?

Something tells me that they themselves do not see this “business” lasting long into the future.
 
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IndigoIdentity said:
It’s dumbfounding how they choose to utilize the cheapest options available for things, you’d think that people who are trying to build a well established and long lasting business would opt to make use of good quality solutions, especially when you have a small fortune available to you right?

Something tells me that they themselves do not see this “business” lasting long into the future.
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Doesn't even surprise me when that billboard went up earlier this year at their strand office as mirriotrading and was scraped off and reused months later. Not a new one put up its a joke...
 
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IndigoIdentity said:
Something tells me that they themselves do not see this “business” lasting long into the future.
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It doesn't need to... They made pleeeeeeenty money as revealed by the leaked data. When this goes sideways they'll try claim "we didn't know... Johan did it... He told us he has set it up like this but he is still in charge... He took all the btc."

They've had AMPLE opportunity to play open cards... And they were given the perfect opportunity to disclose everything and go "see it's all legit"

but instead it's

"don't panic withdraw or we will block your
accounts"
"gonna sue people"
"everyone is wrong/doesn't understand"
"trust us and corporate" (uttered by every shill trying to keep their down in place)
 
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warrenpridgeon said:
"don't panic withdraw or we will block your
accounts"
"gonna sue people"
"everyone is wrong/doesn't understand"
"trust us and corporate" (uttered by every shill trying to keep their down in place)
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"Corporate/legal/finance/marketing"
All the same people - all the same bullshyyert.
But it is clever psychology - I still catch myself wondering if somehow I have missed something and this is in fact a legit investment run by inept cowboys.

Then I slap myself.
 
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warrenpridgeon said:
It doesn't need to... They made pleeeeeeenty money as revealed by the leaked data. When this goes sideways they'll try claim "we didn't know... Johan did it... He told us he has set it up like this but he is still in charge... He took all the btc."

They've had AMPLE opportunity to play open cards... And they were given the perfect opportunity to disclose everything and go "see it's all legit"

but instead it's

"don't panic withdraw or we will block your
accounts"
"gonna sue people"
"everyone is wrong/doesn't understand"
"trust us and corporate" (uttered by every shill trying to keep their down in place)
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Oh, i do agree.

That said, simply trying to point out how strange it actually is that they won’t spend real money on the golden spoon that feeds them so well...

If this was as legit as they say then in my mind they would happily put their money where their mouth is when it comes to things like marketing a “successful business”

the fact that they don’t just shows me that they actually don’t have enough faith in the “business” to spend any real money on it, just the bare minimum to keep the money flow coming in whilst ensuring that their pockets are still stacked fat.

Edit: If it was me and I was running a multi billion Rand company by operating a bot that trades so perfectly it makes Buffett jealous, then I’ve have the best marketing people in the world lined up to take this global... They don’t, they won’t ever... they will just duck and run for cover when this scam collapses.
 
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IndigoIdentity said:
Oh, i do agree.

That said, simply trying to point out how strange it actually is that they won’t spend real money on the golden spoon that feeds them so well...

If this was as legit as they say then in my mind they would happily put their money where their mouth is when it comes to things like marketing a “successful business”

the fact that they don’t just shows me that they actually don’t have enough faith in the “business” to spend any real money on it, just the bare minimum to keep the money flow coming in whilst ensuring that their pockets are still stacked fat.

Edit: If it was me and I was running a multi billion Rand company by operating a bot that trades so perfectly it makes buffer jealous, then I’ve have the best marketing people in the world lined up to take this global... They don’t, they won’t ever... they will just duck and run for cover when this scam collapses.
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The way they market is to buy a Lambo, Porsche or Ferrari. Then say to the sheep, look how successful I am, don't you want to be like me?
Buying themselves a fancy car is how they see themselves as marketing a successful business scam,
 
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r00igev@@r said:
The way they market is to buy a Lambo, Porsche or Ferrari. Then say to the sheep, look how successful I am, don't you want to be like me?
Buying themselves a fancy car is how they see themselves as marketing a successful business scam,
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I guess that makes sense from a scammers perspective, if someone is paying you for being you then they likely know someone else who will pay you too.

Really limiting the scalability of the god bot by doing this though, apparently if they have more money they can make more money so it seems like they are stunting the growth of their followers by doing the marketing in this way.
 
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