Mirror Trading International

[Wary GOM]

See guys the thing is there are massive tax implications at play here opening accounts in your kids names and giving them btc is subject to donations tax... Sars is going to have a field day.

Donation to spouse tax free, to kid not tax free there is an annual limit but beyond that 100 odd k there is tax to pay. This is the same as donating a house car etc btc is an asset with market value... Good luck!

But remember it is not money - it is bitcoins. They are absolutely safe and growing by the day with Oom Johan and Tannie Cheri.

 

[Def-e-nition]

There's only a finite amount of Bitcoin that can ever exist.....Unless you are mining for the coins, in order for anyone to "win"bitcoin, someone else has to "lose". C'mon, this is primary school level stuff.

And judging by anonymous_za 's calculations : they'll need to crap out 9917 more, just to break even.
I just hope n pray that Bot is plugged into 3 phase this week. Hy gaan moet werk lat diè snott spat.

 

[Wary GOM]

I commented the link to the leak but they didn't do anything with it... sigh


SHHHH MAN!!!! Don't tell them!



IN!!! You can be a founder if you bring 5 recruits!

That's just too good for words. Count me, my wife, my 3 stepchildresand 4 adult dogs in. PLEASE don't let me miss this last chance of avoiding looking for a bridge where I can sleep. I am desperate for money, but even more, I want to be PART of a like-minded group of people.

 

[Wary GOM]

NEXT TO not under. We are not a pyramid. The membership structure is laid out in a binary fashion where some accounts may or may not be connected in a triple-sided geometric shape......but NOT A PYRAMID! A pyramid is a 3-dimensional shape...our member structure is 2-dimensional, and therefore cannot, by definition, be considered to be a pyramid.

I don't care if it is a pyramid or a kleinhuisie as long as I can be a part of the feeling of belonging to SOMETHING!

 

[Forexpip]

They want the truth

 

[Snyper564]

That Mybb fb post is gaining traction like wildfire now... I need to sleep.... I have gym at 445am tomorrow...

OK that's it I'm off... See yall tomorrow..

I'll cycle and catch up in the AM this week is going to be pure chaos

 

[Wary GOM]

Enough, enough; off to bed to have happy dreams of 2 dimensional, 3-sided membership structures and how angry Cheri will be when she wakes in the middle of the night and realises how many things might happen during the week.

 

[Venator]

They want the truth

Yup, silencing someone for asking questions or bringing up facts should concern them all very much indeed.

But that's what MTI does all the time. They never, ever, actually provide any verifiable information to counter the claims that are brought up against them. They just say "lies lies lies, shut up and go away".
That mentality is what should make people take a step back and evaluate the situation more carefully.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

Yup, silencing someone for asking questions or bringing up facts should concern them all very much indeed.

But that's what MTI does all the time. They never, ever, actually provide any verifiable information to counter the claims that are brought up against them. They just say "lies lies lies, shut up and go away".
That mentality is what should make people take a step back and evaluate the situation more carefully.

Not only that, they seem to be running training for the top nobs to follow in tandem.

Watching posts disappear of Joel’s new video... “Please explain why the higher members have multiple accounts, Cheri has confirmed it. That’s unfair Joel.”

 

[DHumphrey]

Search up people in you circle of friends, family, and colleagues and contact them if you find them in the database and tell them to get the hell out....I've already found a few. If they won't listen, don't waste your time, move on to the next person.

 

[Venator]

Not only that, they seem to be running training for the top nobs to follow in tandem.

Watching posts disappear of Joel’s new video... “Please explain why the higher members have multiple accounts, Cheri has confirmed it. That’s unfair Joel.”

What I find absolutely hilarious is how everyone claims that MTI is "soooooooooooooooooooo transparent".
If you're transparent, you don't suppress criticism. When you're actively engaged in controlling a narrative, you've got something to hide.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

What I find absolutely hilarious is how everyone claims that MTI is "soooooooooooooooooooo transparent".
If you're transparent, you don't suppress criticism. When you're actively engaged in controlling a narrative, you've got something to hide.

I posted a nice message and he deleted it too :-(

Said Thanks Joel, please ask MtI to provide audited financial statements as have been asking for 8 months already.

Transparency level amazing.

 

[retromodcoza]

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Yep. I'm trying to stoke this thing without being booted. Tricky line to walk.....

Also - can you redact my name from your post? You're blowing my cover.

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

LOL where is Marius gonna get that $5000?

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Pretty people have it so much easier

 

[ZillyZaber]

Question: How do you lay charges and prosecute this case? There is no real paper trail here unless maybe they could seize the servers which may be further complicated as it is likely in another jurisdiction. They made sure that people follow their own route to send BTC to the MTI wallets. There is no traditional paper trail to them (credit cards, EFT etc.) These guys could cash out proper before this goes down.

With quite a bit of cryptocurrency laundering to further complicate matters, our authorities with their lack of experience will not figure this out. Sadly, these scams will continue to flourish in South Africa where authorities struggle to prosecute people for basic white-collar crime. When this scam eventually collapses, the same crew will be back with another one.

As there are US citizens involved, my recommendation would be to get the FBI on this.

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

They want the truth

Thats so sweet. Hope Earl and Kelly don’t get kicked.

 

[Def-e-nition]

Question: How do you lay charges and prosecute this case? There is no real paper trail here unless maybe they could seize the servers which may be further complicated as it is likely in another jurisdiction. They made sure that people follow their own route to send BTC to the MTI wallets. There is no traditional paper trail to them (credit cards etc.) These guys could cash out proper before this goes down.

With quite a bit of cryptocurrency laundering to further complicate matters, our authorities with their lack of experience will not figure this out. Sadly, these scams will continue to flourish in South Africa were authorities struggle to prosecute people for basic white-collar crime. When this scam eventually collapses, the same crew will be back with another one.

As there are US citizens involved, my recommendation would be to get the FBI on this.

100, %.

They Will be back. In South AfricA:consider prosectution mission impossible.
Watching it tumble will be our ONLY reward : anything else from Sars (yawn) or the FSp board, is purely a bonus.
Irks the living crap out of me they can get away conning mostly blind peeps and a few honest people so badly, and get to walk away with trully Enormous bank accounts most of us can only Dream about.
Dishonesty ,rewarded to Epic proportions.

 

[Venator]

Doesn't this sound rather odd?

"The data dump suggests that of the bitcoin received by MTI, a total of 3 755 appear to have been sent to online sports betting site Cloudbet.com and a further 845 to FXChoice, a Belize-based forex trading broker. "

Anonymous data dump ‘spills the beans’ on Mirror Trading International

The data dump suggests MTI has taken in deposits of R4bn, while founders reportedly received R309 million.

www.moneyweb.co.za

 

[Def-e-nition]

Doesn't this sound rather odd?

"The data dump suggests that of the bitcoin received by MTI, a total of 3 755 appear to have been sent to online sports betting site Cloudbet.com and a further 845 to FXChoice, a Belize-based forex trading broker. "

Anonymous data dump ‘spills the beans’ on Mirror Trading International

The data dump suggests MTI has taken in deposits of R4bn, while founders reportedly received R309 million.

www.moneyweb.co.za

Never mind the bold print: -what in hell's name is 855btc doing going to the Belize based broker?? Thought they hate each other's guts?
Why the hell would money be going to a betting company???

 

[Venator]

Never mind the bold print: -what in hell's name is 855btc doing going to the Belize based broker?? Thought they hate each other's guts?
Why the hell would money be going to a betting company???

Well, keep in mind that the records are of ALL their transactions, from start all the way to the 14 of Sept.
So I'm gonna guess that they mean of all the BTC they received, 855 had been sent to FX Choice (which is probably the large substantial loss that FX Choice spoke about). But not sure how much of that 855 was actually lost.

It's interesting though, because if they had only ever sent 855 BTC to FX Choice, then there's noooooooooooo waaaaaaay they were actually trading and able to make the profits the were claiming to have made.

See, this is the double-edged sword part about crypto and blockchain tech. The regulations are unfortunately ver lax, which means that it makes it somewhat easier for people to run scams. However, it's also quite a bit easier tot track the funds. So when MTI claims they were trading with FX Choice, it's pretty easy to then look at the transfers and say "nope, you're full of crap"