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MTI Legal team, That guy that threatens people over WhatsApp.
No surprise for a 4 Billion rand scam.
But don't you dare question the legitimacy of MTI, you will get blocked by this "transparent" company.
They will shill till they hit the bottom, and still claim the trading bot is real.
It is sad that people's pension funds, savings, rent/bond money will vanish.
For some this is the last they have, pushing them over the edge.
Their mentality is, as long as I am getting money out it must be legit.
The site will go down, and never return just a matter of time now.
Greed of money is the root of evil and it shows.
I would like to see all these leaders locked up, so they can't repeat it again.
They take what most would make over 20 years in under 1 year, then fold with millions.
Only to rinse and repeat with the next scam, with the same usual suspects involved.
The writing is on the wall, some have been warned but do not want to listen.
I am done warning people, I feel rocks when they lose everything.
I would rather earn an honest wage, than to go to bed knowing my income has been stolen from someone else.
No surprise for a 4 Billion rand scam.
But don't you dare question the legitimacy of MTI, you will get blocked by this "transparent" company.
They will shill till they hit the bottom, and still claim the trading bot is real.
It is sad that people's pension funds, savings, rent/bond money will vanish.
For some this is the last they have, pushing them over the edge.
Their mentality is, as long as I am getting money out it must be legit.
The site will go down, and never return just a matter of time now.
Greed of money is the root of evil and it shows.
I would like to see all these leaders locked up, so they can't repeat it again.
They take what most would make over 20 years in under 1 year, then fold with millions.
Only to rinse and repeat with the next scam, with the same usual suspects involved.
The writing is on the wall, some have been warned but do not want to listen.
I am done warning people, I feel rocks when they lose everything.
I would rather earn an honest wage, than to go to bed knowing my income has been stolen from someone else.
JohnStaynMountain
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Right on Top - I wish
warrenpridgeon
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But it's fine for them to "defend" themselves with paid blogs/editorials/press releases...
All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.
JohnStaynMountain
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They Claim the statement "All companies can fail" excepts them from being prosecuted, but still posting after the latest news fooling people that should be a criminal offence, is it not, o he is in The USA so he is free
warrenpridgeon
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That's WITHOUT factoring in the shortfall between the "10%" MTI earns daily that is supposed to cover the referral bonuses (that's another 500 odd BTC right there)... And factor in servers/office space/salaries/bitcoin tumbling fees (ALL the deposits and withdrawals are going through tumblers)... If the tumblers charge 1% it's another (22984+15653)*0.01=386.37 BTC that is MIA
Peter Muller, [21.09.20 09:52]
For those of you who have read the MoneyWeb article the following is a response to the author by Cheri
Peter Muller, [21.09.20 09:53]
No you did not attempt to call me.
You also did not attempt to email me.
Did you attempt to call or email Clynton Marks or Johann Steynberg?
NO you did not.
Yes, we had a security breach of our administration portal. Yes it was a criminal act. Yes we will be pressing charges and everyone publishing the personal information illegally obtained we will refer to our legal council.
The security breech has been fixed and the information leaked is inaccurate and incomplete at best.
If you had verified that before publishing your complete one sided and bias view you'd know that MTI has been trading for over 18months. We have had one day close in a negative trading day. We exclusively moved to crypto trading and our members are happy and informed.
In August over 34,000 withdrawals were effected to the tune of 5933 bitcoin without so much as a hiccup.
We have over 170,000 members ALL happy, all informed and all growing their bitcoin with MTI.
The fact that MTI has founder members is nothing new. Yes there is an extra profit share for them and this does not affect the company or the members in any way, nor is it a state secret. In your article you paint a picture of sensationalism and deceat. Terrible reporting.
You then go on to say people have withdrawn x amount of RAND from MTI. This statement is factually flawed. I have withdrawn BITCOIN from MTI and at what price did I sell that bitcoin? Did I even sell that bitcoin? Am I holding it? You insinuated that I have over R20million rand. That is not true. But it is evident that you have NO INTEREST in the truth.
Did you ever stop to think how you are painting a target on my back...?
You speak of my husband and I being "behind BTC Global". Where do you get this info from? Name ONE credible institution that named Clynton or myself a suspect. All you have to go on is blog posts on semi supported portal written by a seriously deranged woman.
Did you report on the other companies we have been with that are still running and producing excellent results and products today??? No you didn't. Because your intention is to slander, not to provide a decent and informed view of MTI, its founders, shareholders or members.
Did you ask the FSCA if they saw proof that MTI is trading? Did you ask them if they saw a live bitcoin balance on our broker platform? If you did, they would have answered, yes. I was physically present in the meeting where our CEO opened our live trading account and btc balance for the FSCA to see. Again, I am appalled at your lack of skill when asking questions and "reporting" on the findings.
You speak of a shortfall that MTI has according to this leaked information by your anonymous source (funny how ALL your sources choose "not to be named"). You and your source are assuming MTI is not trading. And such an assumption is ridiculous as our members receive a trade statement with every trade detailed on their account every day. We also have a limited view of LIVE trades uploaded for members every two weeks with a confirmation of the btc pool balance. But I am sure you have NO INTEREST in these inconvenient FACTS because it makes for a far less sensationalized account of what MTI are up to and how they are servicing their members.
In closing... I DARE you and your anonymous sources to find ONE just ONE MTI member that will say MTI has NOT delivered on its brand promise to grow our bitcoin.
A system that is helping over 170,000 to grow their bitcoin portfolio in a time where our government has failed them, the banking system failed them, employment is at an all time low and businesses are failing by the minute and all you can report on is BIAS INCOMPLETE and INACCURATE information to try and discredit a company that is truly making a difference.
You should be ashamed of yourself
For those of you who have read the MoneyWeb article the following is a response to the author by Cheri
Peter Muller, [21.09.20 09:53]
No you did not attempt to call me.
You also did not attempt to email me.
Did you attempt to call or email Clynton Marks or Johann Steynberg?
NO you did not.
Yes, we had a security breach of our administration portal. Yes it was a criminal act. Yes we will be pressing charges and everyone publishing the personal information illegally obtained we will refer to our legal council.
The security breech has been fixed and the information leaked is inaccurate and incomplete at best.
If you had verified that before publishing your complete one sided and bias view you'd know that MTI has been trading for over 18months. We have had one day close in a negative trading day. We exclusively moved to crypto trading and our members are happy and informed.
In August over 34,000 withdrawals were effected to the tune of 5933 bitcoin without so much as a hiccup.
We have over 170,000 members ALL happy, all informed and all growing their bitcoin with MTI.
The fact that MTI has founder members is nothing new. Yes there is an extra profit share for them and this does not affect the company or the members in any way, nor is it a state secret. In your article you paint a picture of sensationalism and deceat. Terrible reporting.
You then go on to say people have withdrawn x amount of RAND from MTI. This statement is factually flawed. I have withdrawn BITCOIN from MTI and at what price did I sell that bitcoin? Did I even sell that bitcoin? Am I holding it? You insinuated that I have over R20million rand. That is not true. But it is evident that you have NO INTEREST in the truth.
Did you ever stop to think how you are painting a target on my back...?
You speak of my husband and I being "behind BTC Global". Where do you get this info from? Name ONE credible institution that named Clynton or myself a suspect. All you have to go on is blog posts on semi supported portal written by a seriously deranged woman.
Did you report on the other companies we have been with that are still running and producing excellent results and products today??? No you didn't. Because your intention is to slander, not to provide a decent and informed view of MTI, its founders, shareholders or members.
Did you ask the FSCA if they saw proof that MTI is trading? Did you ask them if they saw a live bitcoin balance on our broker platform? If you did, they would have answered, yes. I was physically present in the meeting where our CEO opened our live trading account and btc balance for the FSCA to see. Again, I am appalled at your lack of skill when asking questions and "reporting" on the findings.
You speak of a shortfall that MTI has according to this leaked information by your anonymous source (funny how ALL your sources choose "not to be named"). You and your source are assuming MTI is not trading. And such an assumption is ridiculous as our members receive a trade statement with every trade detailed on their account every day. We also have a limited view of LIVE trades uploaded for members every two weeks with a confirmation of the btc pool balance. But I am sure you have NO INTEREST in these inconvenient FACTS because it makes for a far less sensationalized account of what MTI are up to and how they are servicing their members.
In closing... I DARE you and your anonymous sources to find ONE just ONE MTI member that will say MTI has NOT delivered on its brand promise to grow our bitcoin.
A system that is helping over 170,000 to grow their bitcoin portfolio in a time where our government has failed them, the banking system failed them, employment is at an all time low and businesses are failing by the minute and all you can report on is BIAS INCOMPLETE and INACCURATE information to try and discredit a company that is truly making a difference.
You should be ashamed of yourself
100%
However, from the information that has been obtained by members of this forum, there are some people who have put in large sums. As with Vaultage (Willie Breedt), some of these people might start civil cases when things go donw. Unless of course, they get their money out during this last smokescreen phase.
JohnStaynMountain
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Seems they will get out of this one as well with all the happy members supporting them to make more money
r00igev@@r
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Add to that the payment to the brokers that they make...
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adslrouter
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[21.09.20 09:52]
For those of you who have read the MoneyWeb article the following is a response to the author by Cheri
[21.09.20 09:53]
No you did not attempt to call me.
You also did not attempt to email me.
Did you attempt to call or email Clynton Marks or Johann Steynberg?
NO you did not.
Yes, we had a security breach of our administration portal. Yes it was a criminal act. Yes we will be pressing charges and everyone publishing the personal information illegally obtained we will refer to our legal council.
The security breech has been fixed and the information leaked is inaccurate and incomplete at best.
If you had verified that before publishing your complete one sided and bias view you'd know that MTI has been trading for over 18months. We have had one day close in a negative trading day. We exclusively moved to crypto trading and our members are happy and informed.
In August over 34,000 withdrawals were effected to the tune of 5933 bitcoin without so much as a hiccup.
We have over 170,000 members ALL happy, all informed and all growing their bitcoin with MTI.
The fact that MTI has founder members is nothing new. Yes there is an extra profit share for them and this does not affect the company or the members in any way, nor is it a state secret. In your article you paint a picture of sensationalism and deceat. Terrible reporting.
You then go on to say people have withdrawn x amount of RAND from MTI. This statement is factually flawed. I have withdrawn BITCOIN from MTI and at what price did I sell that bitcoin? Did I even sell that bitcoin? Am I holding it? You insinuated that I have over R20million rand. That is not true. But it is evident that you have NO INTEREST in the truth.
Did you ever stop to think how you are painting a target on my back...?
You speak of my husband and I being "behind BTC Global". Where do you get this info from? Name ONE credible institution that named Clynton or myself a suspect. All you have to go on is blog posts on semi supported portal written by a seriously deranged woman.
Did you report on the other companies we have been with that are still running and producing excellent results and products today??? No you didn't. Because your intention is to slander, not to provide a decent and informed view of MTI, its founders, shareholders or members.
Did you ask the FSCA if they saw proof that MTI is trading? Did you ask them if they saw a live bitcoin balance on our broker platform? If you did, they would have answered, yes. I was physically present in the meeting where our CEO opened our live trading account and btc balance for the FSCA to see. Again, I am appalled at your lack of skill when asking questions and "reporting" on the findings.
You speak of a shortfall that MTI has according to this leaked information by your anonymous source (funny how ALL your sources choose "not to be named"). You and your source are assuming MTI is not trading. And such an assumption is ridiculous as our members receive a trade statement with every trade detailed on their account every day. We also have a limited view of LIVE trades uploaded for members every two weeks with a confirmation of the btc pool balance. But I am sure you have NO INTEREST in these inconvenient FACTS because it makes for a far less sensationalized account of what MTI are up to and how they are servicing their members.
In closing... I DARE you and your anonymous sources to find ONE just ONE MTI member that will say MTI has NOT delivered on its brand promise to grow our bitcoin.
A system that is helping over 170,000 to grow their bitcoin portfolio in a time where our government has failed them, the banking system failed them, employment is at an all time low and businesses are failing by the minute and all you can report on is BIAS INCOMPLETE and INACCURATE information to try and discredit a company that is truly making a difference.
You should be ashamed of yourself
For those of you who have read the MoneyWeb article the following is a response to the author by Cheri
[21.09.20 09:53]
No you did not attempt to call me.
You also did not attempt to email me.
Did you attempt to call or email Clynton Marks or Johann Steynberg?
NO you did not.
Yes, we had a security breach of our administration portal. Yes it was a criminal act. Yes we will be pressing charges and everyone publishing the personal information illegally obtained we will refer to our legal council.
The security breech has been fixed and the information leaked is inaccurate and incomplete at best.
If you had verified that before publishing your complete one sided and bias view you'd know that MTI has been trading for over 18months. We have had one day close in a negative trading day. We exclusively moved to crypto trading and our members are happy and informed.
In August over 34,000 withdrawals were effected to the tune of 5933 bitcoin without so much as a hiccup.
We have over 170,000 members ALL happy, all informed and all growing their bitcoin with MTI.
The fact that MTI has founder members is nothing new. Yes there is an extra profit share for them and this does not affect the company or the members in any way, nor is it a state secret. In your article you paint a picture of sensationalism and deceat. Terrible reporting.
You then go on to say people have withdrawn x amount of RAND from MTI. This statement is factually flawed. I have withdrawn BITCOIN from MTI and at what price did I sell that bitcoin? Did I even sell that bitcoin? Am I holding it? You insinuated that I have over R20million rand. That is not true. But it is evident that you have NO INTEREST in the truth.
Did you ever stop to think how you are painting a target on my back...?
You speak of my husband and I being "behind BTC Global". Where do you get this info from? Name ONE credible institution that named Clynton or myself a suspect. All you have to go on is blog posts on semi supported portal written by a seriously deranged woman.
Did you report on the other companies we have been with that are still running and producing excellent results and products today??? No you didn't. Because your intention is to slander, not to provide a decent and informed view of MTI, its founders, shareholders or members.
Did you ask the FSCA if they saw proof that MTI is trading? Did you ask them if they saw a live bitcoin balance on our broker platform? If you did, they would have answered, yes. I was physically present in the meeting where our CEO opened our live trading account and btc balance for the FSCA to see. Again, I am appalled at your lack of skill when asking questions and "reporting" on the findings.
You speak of a shortfall that MTI has according to this leaked information by your anonymous source (funny how ALL your sources choose "not to be named"). You and your source are assuming MTI is not trading. And such an assumption is ridiculous as our members receive a trade statement with every trade detailed on their account every day. We also have a limited view of LIVE trades uploaded for members every two weeks with a confirmation of the btc pool balance. But I am sure you have NO INTEREST in these inconvenient FACTS because it makes for a far less sensationalized account of what MTI are up to and how they are servicing their members.
In closing... I DARE you and your anonymous sources to find ONE just ONE MTI member that will say MTI has NOT delivered on its brand promise to grow our bitcoin.
A system that is helping over 170,000 to grow their bitcoin portfolio in a time where our government has failed them, the banking system failed them, employment is at an all time low and businesses are failing by the minute and all you can report on is BIAS INCOMPLETE and INACCURATE information to try and discredit a company that is truly making a difference.
You should be ashamed of yourself
aofafrica
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Sadly not quite true. If the mind will not accept it, it is effectively unseen. That is why all our evidence, comment, warnings etc just strengthen the members resolve to stay with the program.
aofafrica
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Question please:
Is this 50,000 members? Everyone has at least 2 accounts in their own names before you start adding the family pets.
And will be encouraging existing member to sign up the dog, cat and canary, none of which knows anything more about crypto and forex trading than do most of the MTI crowd.
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