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Truth Warrior said:
The system has definitely got bugs as a friend was in MTI and pulled out a few weeks back and he is still receiving P1 and P2 bonuses even though he is no longer binary qualified and many of his downline have also pulled out too. So how does that work?
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Might be a bug in MTI's system, or he did withdraw his funds but the account was still "active"....or perhaps he was still using the scam?
 
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Truth Warrior said:
The system has definitely got bugs as a friend was in MTI and pulled out a few weeks back and he is still receiving P1 and P2 bonuses even though he is no longer binary qualified and many of his downline have also pulled out too. So how does that work?
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Once you qualify, you don't ever unqualify.
 
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Forexpip said:
Peter Muller, [21.09.20 09:52]
For those of you who have read the MoneyWeb article the following is a response to the author by Cheri

Peter Muller, [21.09.20 09:53]
No you did not attempt to call me.

You also did not attempt to email me.


Did you attempt to call or email Clynton Marks or Johann Steynberg?

NO you did not.


Yes, we had a security breach of our administration portal. Yes it was a criminal act. Yes we will be pressing charges and everyone publishing the personal information illegally obtained we will refer to our legal council.


The security breech has been fixed and the information leaked is inaccurate and incomplete at best.

If you had verified that before publishing your complete one sided and bias view you'd know that MTI has been trading for over 18months. We have had one day close in a negative trading day. We exclusively moved to crypto trading and our members are happy and informed.


In August over 34,000 withdrawals were effected to the tune of 5933 bitcoin without so much as a hiccup.


We have over 170,000 members ALL happy, all informed and all growing their bitcoin with MTI.


The fact that MTI has founder members is nothing new. Yes there is an extra profit share for them and this does not affect the company or the members in any way, nor is it a state secret. In your article you paint a picture of sensationalism and deceat. Terrible reporting.


You then go on to say people have withdrawn x amount of RAND from MTI. This statement is factually flawed. I have withdrawn BITCOIN from MTI and at what price did I sell that bitcoin? Did I even sell that bitcoin? Am I holding it? You insinuated that I have over R20million rand. That is not true. But it is evident that you have NO INTEREST in the truth.

Did you ever stop to think how you are painting a target on my back...?


You speak of my husband and I being "behind BTC Global". Where do you get this info from? Name ONE credible institution that named Clynton or myself a suspect. All you have to go on is blog posts on semi supported portal written by a seriously deranged woman.


Did you report on the other companies we have been with that are still running and producing excellent results and products today??? No you didn't. Because your intention is to slander, not to provide a decent and informed view of MTI, its founders, shareholders or members.


Did you ask the FSCA if they saw proof that MTI is trading? Did you ask them if they saw a live bitcoin balance on our broker platform? If you did, they would have answered, yes. I was physically present in the meeting where our CEO opened our live trading account and btc balance for the FSCA to see. Again, I am appalled at your lack of skill when asking questions and "reporting" on the findings.


You speak of a shortfall that MTI has according to this leaked information by your anonymous source (funny how ALL your sources choose "not to be named"). You and your source are assuming MTI is not trading. And such an assumption is ridiculous as our members receive a trade statement with every trade detailed on their account every day. We also have a limited view of LIVE trades uploaded for members every two weeks with a confirmation of the btc pool balance. But I am sure you have NO INTEREST in these inconvenient FACTS because it makes for a far less sensationalized account of what MTI are up to and how they are servicing their members.


In closing... I DARE you and your anonymous sources to find ONE just ONE MTI member that will say MTI has NOT delivered on its brand promise to grow our bitcoin.


A system that is helping over 170,000 to grow their bitcoin portfolio in a time where our government has failed them, the banking system failed them, employment is at an all time low and businesses are failing by the minute and all you can report on is BIAS INCOMPLETE and INACCURATE information to try and discredit a company that is truly making a difference.


You should be ashamed of yourself
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Forexpip said:
Peter Muller, [21.09.20 09:52]
For those of you who have read the MoneyWeb article the following is a response to the author by Cheri

Peter Muller, [21.09.20 09:53]
No you did not attempt to call me.

You also did not attempt to email me.


Did you attempt to call or email Clynton Marks or Johann Steynberg?

NO you did not.


Yes, we had a security breach of our administration portal. Yes it was a criminal act. Yes we will be pressing charges and everyone publishing the personal information illegally obtained we will refer to our legal council.


The security breech has been fixed and the information leaked is inaccurate and incomplete at best.

If you had verified that before publishing your complete one sided and bias view you'd know that MTI has been trading for over 18months. We have had one day close in a negative trading day. We exclusively moved to crypto trading and our members are happy and informed.


In August over 34,000 withdrawals were effected to the tune of 5933 bitcoin without so much as a hiccup.


We have over 170,000 members ALL happy, all informed and all growing their bitcoin with MTI.


The fact that MTI has founder members is nothing new. Yes there is an extra profit share for them and this does not affect the company or the members in any way, nor is it a state secret. In your article you paint a picture of sensationalism and deceat. Terrible reporting.


You then go on to say people have withdrawn x amount of RAND from MTI. This statement is factually flawed. I have withdrawn BITCOIN from MTI and at what price did I sell that bitcoin? Did I even sell that bitcoin? Am I holding it? You insinuated that I have over R20million rand. That is not true. But it is evident that you have NO INTEREST in the truth.

Did you ever stop to think how you are painting a target on my back...?


You speak of my husband and I being "behind BTC Global". Where do you get this info from? Name ONE credible institution that named Clynton or myself a suspect. All you have to go on is blog posts on semi supported portal written by a seriously deranged woman.


Did you report on the other companies we have been with that are still running and producing excellent results and products today??? No you didn't. Because your intention is to slander, not to provide a decent and informed view of MTI, its founders, shareholders or members.


Did you ask the FSCA if they saw proof that MTI is trading? Did you ask them if they saw a live bitcoin balance on our broker platform? If you did, they would have answered, yes. I was physically present in the meeting where our CEO opened our live trading account and btc balance for the FSCA to see. Again, I am appalled at your lack of skill when asking questions and "reporting" on the findings.


You speak of a shortfall that MTI has according to this leaked information by your anonymous source (funny how ALL your sources choose "not to be named"). You and your source are assuming MTI is not trading. And such an assumption is ridiculous as our members receive a trade statement with every trade detailed on their account every day. We also have a limited view of LIVE trades uploaded for members every two weeks with a confirmation of the btc pool balance. But I am sure you have NO INTEREST in these inconvenient FACTS because it makes for a far less sensationalized account of what MTI are up to and how they are servicing their members.


In closing... I DARE you and your anonymous sources to find ONE just ONE MTI member that will say MTI has NOT delivered on its brand promise to grow our bitcoin.


A system that is helping over 170,000 to grow their bitcoin portfolio in a time where our government has failed them, the banking system failed them, employment is at an all time low and businesses are failing by the minute and all you can report on is BIAS INCOMPLETE and INACCURATE information to try and discredit a company that is truly making a difference.


You should be ashamed of yourself
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She is obfuscating here. What does is matter if its R20 mil or bitcoin that at todays rates are valued at R20 mil. Same thing, semantics.

And pray tell which are the successful companies that she is talking about that are still running?

She is either stupid or she thinks we all are.
 
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Whyarewehere said:
She is obfuscating here. What does is matter if its R20 mil or bitcoin that at todays rates are valued at R20 mil. Same thing, semantics.

And pray tell which are the successful companies that she is talking about that are still running?

She is either stupid or she thinks we all are.
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Just like the chess playing pigeon.
Craps on the board and struts around as if she won.
 
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Interesting names on the MTIeaks.

My BTC is in the deepfreeze icing over.

I know my "upline" has withdrawn , I too have withdrawn in Aug 2020 already when they had that disaster of a vergadering with the FCSA and their "transparency" was as effective as looking through foil.

I sent these kebabs an email in Aug 2020
They eventually responded , this was when the magic mirror "CryptoBOT" awake from its slumber.



Mel Coetzee (Mirror Trading International)


Aug 24, 2020, 12:56 AM GMT+2


Dear XXXXX

Thank you for contacting Support

The 'statement run' notification is a glitch that we are trying to resolve. Please note, we don't trade on weekends, that's why the last statement on the back office is for Friday, 21 August.

With regards to the crypto trading - that means we are trading in a space where only crypto is traded and not the forex market where fiat currencies are traded as well.
 
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Forexpip said:
Did you ask the FSCA if they saw proof that MTI is trading? Did you ask them if they saw a live bitcoin balance on our broker platform? If you did, they would have answered, yes. I was physically present in the meeting where our CEO opened our live trading account and btc balance for the FSCA to see. Again, I am appalled at your lack of skill when asking questions and "reporting" on the findings.
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From the FCSA report (emphasis mine) -
MTI has informed us that they accept clients’ funds in the form of Bitcoin, pool the funds into one trading account on a forex derivative trading platform, and conduct high frequency trading through the utilisation of a Bot. If this is being done as described, then this amounts to financial services, hence the licence requirement.
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Curiositykilledthecat

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Venator said:
Might be a bug in MTI's system, or he did withdraw his funds but the account was still "active"....or perhaps he was still using the scam?
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Theoretically they are supposed to delete your account if your balance is zero. If your balance is 0.00000001 bitcoin, their system does not allow you to withdraw it, so your account cannot be closed. Even with a zero balance, they don't close your account. For a multi-billion rand company, they seem to have very few or very incompetent staff. It's like somebody said a while ago - Hotel California...
 
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Curiositykilledthecat said:
Theoretically they are supposed to delete your account if your balance is zero. If your balance is 0.00000001 bitcoin, their system does not allow you to withdraw it, so your account cannot be closed. Even with a zero balance, they don't close your account. For a multi-billion rand company, they seem to have very few or very incompetent staff. It's like somebody said a while ago - Hotel California...
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So perhaps how much "active" members with a account balance of 0.00000001 BTC
 
InvisibleMan1

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Forexpip said:
Peter Muller, [21.09.20 09:52]
For those of you who have read the MoneyWeb article the following is a response to the author by Cheri

Peter Muller, [21.09.20 09:53]
No you did not attempt to call me.

You also did not attempt to email me.


Did you attempt to call or email Clynton Marks or Johann Steynberg?

NO you did not.


Yes, we had a security breach of our administration portal. Yes it was a criminal act. Yes we will be pressing charges and everyone publishing the personal information illegally obtained we will refer to our legal council.


The security breech has been fixed and the information leaked is inaccurate and incomplete at best.

If you had verified that before publishing your complete one sided and bias view you'd know that MTI has been trading for over 18months. We have had one day close in a negative trading day. We exclusively moved to crypto trading and our members are happy and informed.


In August over 34,000 withdrawals were effected to the tune of 5933 bitcoin without so much as a hiccup.


We have over 170,000 members ALL happy, all informed and all growing their bitcoin with MTI.


The fact that MTI has founder members is nothing new. Yes there is an extra profit share for them and this does not affect the company or the members in any way, nor is it a state secret. In your article you paint a picture of sensationalism and deceat. Terrible reporting.


You then go on to say people have withdrawn x amount of RAND from MTI. This statement is factually flawed. I have withdrawn BITCOIN from MTI and at what price did I sell that bitcoin? Did I even sell that bitcoin? Am I holding it? You insinuated that I have over R20million rand. That is not true. But it is evident that you have NO INTEREST in the truth.

Did you ever stop to think how you are painting a target on my back...?


You speak of my husband and I being "behind BTC Global". Where do you get this info from? Name ONE credible institution that named Clynton or myself a suspect. All you have to go on is blog posts on semi supported portal written by a seriously deranged woman.


Did you report on the other companies we have been with that are still running and producing excellent results and products today??? No you didn't. Because your intention is to slander, not to provide a decent and informed view of MTI, its founders, shareholders or members.


Did you ask the FSCA if they saw proof that MTI is trading? Did you ask them if they saw a live bitcoin balance on our broker platform? If you did, they would have answered, yes. I was physically present in the meeting where our CEO opened our live trading account and btc balance for the FSCA to see. Again, I am appalled at your lack of skill when asking questions and "reporting" on the findings.


You speak of a shortfall that MTI has according to this leaked information by your anonymous source (funny how ALL your sources choose "not to be named"). You and your source are assuming MTI is not trading. And such an assumption is ridiculous as our members receive a trade statement with every trade detailed on their account every day. We also have a limited view of LIVE trades uploaded for members every two weeks with a confirmation of the btc pool balance. But I am sure you have NO INTEREST in these inconvenient FACTS because it makes for a far less sensationalized account of what MTI are up to and how they are servicing their members.


In closing... I DARE you and your anonymous sources to find ONE just ONE MTI member that will say MTI has NOT delivered on its brand promise to grow our bitcoin.


A system that is helping over 170,000 to grow their bitcoin portfolio in a time where our government has failed them, the banking system failed them, employment is at an all time low and businesses are failing by the minute and all you can report on is BIAS INCOMPLETE and INACCURATE information to try and discredit a company that is truly making a difference.


You should be ashamed of yourself
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Why is it that people who break the law use the government or any other excuse to justify their wrong doing?
 
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r00igev@@r said:
https://iono.fm/e/910792 - the interview with FSCA

I recall she told the FSCA to "Go fxck yxxrsxlf" when they told them to stop. There is a zoom call where she bragged about it. (Can't find it now!)

Gxd Blxss xnd Mxch Sxccxss
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The interview with the FSCA head of investigations - guy specifically said the FSCA was unable to verify the existence of the BTC...
 
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Mufasa1980 said:
The interview with the FSCA head of investigations - guy specifically said the FSCA was unable to verify the existence of the BTC...
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Here is where Cheri Incriminates herself and Johann in breaking the laws of the Republic of South Africa. She basically admits to a criminal activity and says what you going to do about it?
Next question I have is did their legal council condone this course of action and if so you will be debarred.
 
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adslrouter said:
We have over 170,000 members ALL happy, all informed and all growing their bitcoin with MTI.
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Wild speculation. I haven't seen any poll on the backend to ask people if they are happy. I'm guessing the people who have been kicked off the various groups might be in the unhappy column. Also there aren't anywhere near 170,000 members given how many people have multiple accounts.
 
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