Mirror Trading International

[soulie]

Question for Cherry but maybe someone else can help! What does a South African charge help when the leaky server is in India?

AAAAH leaky server , but your honour the info did just run out the side by the gap/hole where the sticker was.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

AAAAH leaky server , but your honour the info did just run out the side by the gap/hole where the sticker was.

I'm just saying but I'm not sure that leaky server would be useful in a court of law... Basically, they can do whatever they want in there and so can a lot of other people? I'm not even sure if that's criminal negligence as they are paying a third party for said "reliable" software in good faith, isn't it?

They surely have actual records in an actual accounting system and this is what would be used? If they don't have that accurate then well, that's surely very irresponsible of whoever is actually in charge of managing or keeping these records, perhaps to a criminal extent. As to who would be held responsible in this case... I have no idea actually... Johann and perhaps whoever is actually in charge of the finances if it's not him?

 

[Def-e-nition]

This saga continues as well.

SARS seize assets of flashy businessman Hamilton Ndlovu

The flamboyant businessman infamously posted on social media how he bought 5 luxury cars worth R11 million in one day.

www.thesouthafrican.com

I did a nice spread for him on my own page. Thieving s.o.b..

 

[soulie]

I'm just saying but I'm not sure that leaky server would be useful in a court of law... Basically, they can do whatever they want in there and so can a lot of other people? I'm not even sure if that's criminal negligence as they are paying a third party for said "reliable" software in good faith, isn't it?

They surely have actual records in an actual accounting system and this is what would be used? If they don't have that accurate then well, that's surely very irresponsible of whoever is actually in charge of managing or keeping these records, perhaps to a criminal extent. As to who would be held responsible in this case... I have no idea actually... Johann and perhaps whoever is actually in charge of the finances if it's not him?

If Pastel can be crooked and manipulated im sure their info inhouse can also be crooked to their benefit , only time will tell , unfortunately SA citizens have short memories and people forget , the info grows dim and online threads die off , thats what they are waiting for .i think.

 

[Def-e-nition]

Most of the sheeple don't even know what btc. Is or how to buy or transfer it etc

I'm still struggling to get one guys staxx out into his valr account, if you want to pm me snype. He'd be grateful I'm sure..

 

[LJ1234]

Be careful of tarring all Afrikaners with the same brush because a percentage of them fall for scams. I am an Afrikaner and I question every single thing...and I know a lot of honest Afrikaners who have integrity.

 

[ScamSpotter]

MTI's BS spin is that they do not own the black-box 'Bot' - they just have exclusive access to it.

It is also the developers / owners of the black-box 'Bot" that are restricting access to live trades.

Here is the first reference I could find to the MTI cost of 'leasing' it.



Just to confirm that Jacko Eckley and and Johan Kruger are these guys -both prominent scheme promoters and administrators.


We are all eager and impatient for the exit plot to eventually be revealed.

I am going to speculate that ownership and access to the black-box 'Bot' could indeed be the context for a host of exit narratives as to why trading cannot continue, the most simple being that the lease agreement was not renewed....

or

...the 'Bot' developers have gone into business with Steven Twain and cut of all contact with us.
...the black-box 'Bot" has been corrupted, requiring indefinite downtime for maintenance.

Either which way, no more access to the golden goose.

Incidentally, two more dots connected to previous MLM schemes:

Johan Kruger is connected to Werner Beukes. The same Werner that tried to hook Dr. Ong and who is presenting tonight's Q&A with JS



Werner has deleted all his previous MMM material, but there is still plenty of his posted material promoting Goldsave / GS Direct, a MLM scheme that Johan Kruger founded... Here are some samples of their materials

Earning Potential | Goldsave

www.goldsave.co.za

Goldsave Direct

www.youtube.com

Goldsave Primary Co-operative Ltd

It is with great pleasure to announce that you can now through Goldsave Co-op not only save in Gold, but also in Bitcoin. Our members can now spread their risk by saving in Gold and Bitcoin. The...

www.facebook.com

This is just posted for reference should anybody search for these guys in this repository. If this connection is already made, apologies - I did search the thread and nothing popped up.

 

[r00igev@@r]

I'm just saying but I'm not sure that leaky server would be useful in a court of law... Basically, they can do whatever they want in there and so can a lot of other people? I'm not even sure if that's criminal negligence as they are paying a third party for said "reliable" software in good faith, isn't it?

They surely have actual records in an actual accounting system and this is what would be used? If they don't have that accurate then well, that's surely very irresponsible of whoever is actually in charge of managing or keeping these records, perhaps to a criminal extent. As to who would be held responsible in this case... I have no idea actually... Johann and perhaps whoever is actually in charge of the finances if it's not him?

Ja, boet. Johann has everything backed up in Excel.

 

[adslrouter]

Im not invested in this scam. Have had multiple approaches from people but my bullschit detector was blaring from day one.

Still, the way this operates and the psyche of people running this scam is a fascinating topic - someone can get a pretty good PhD out of analysing these aspects

impossible to analyze them.....what they said yesterday, what they are saying today ----- black and white

 

[Wary GOM]

MTI's BS spin is that they do not own the black-box 'Bot' - they just have exclusive access to it.

It is also the developers / owners of the black-box 'Bot" that are restricting access to live trades.

Here is the first reference I could find to the MTI cost of 'leasing' it.

View attachment 923003

Just to confirm that Jacko Eckley and and Johan Kruger are these guys -both prominent scheme promoters and administrators.
View attachment 922993

We are all eager and impatient for the exit plot to eventually be revealed.

I am going to speculate that ownership and access to the black-box 'Bot' could indeed be the context for a host of exit narratives as to why trading cannot continue, the most simple being that the lease agreement was not renewed....

or

...the 'Bot' developers have gone into business with Steven Twain and cut of all contact with us.
...the black-box 'Bot" has been corrupted, requiring indefinite downtime for maintenance.

Either which way, no more access to the golden goose.

Incidentally, two more dots connected to previous MLM schemes:

Johan Kruger is connected to Werner Beukes. The same Werner that tried to hook Dr. Ong and who is presenting tonight's Q&A with JS

View attachment 923015

Werner has deleted all his previous MMM material, but there is still plenty of his posted material promoting Goldsave / GS Direct, a MLM scheme that Johan Kruger founded... Here are some samples of their materials

Earning Potential | Goldsave

www.goldsave.co.za

Goldsave Direct

www.youtube.com

Goldsave Primary Co-operative Ltd

It is with great pleasure to announce that you can now through Goldsave Co-op not only save in Gold, but also in Bitcoin. Our members can now spread their risk by saving in Gold and Bitcoin. The...

www.facebook.com

This is just posted for reference should anybody search for these guys in this repository. If this connection is already made, apologies - I did search the thread and nothing popped up.

This lad was certainly active in trying to get new members. He gives a good spiel and is pretty persistent.

 

[soulie]

Just recieved pic

 

[adslrouter]

MTI's BS spin is that they do not own the black-box 'Bot' - they just have exclusive access to it.

It is also the developers / owners of the black-box 'Bot" that are restricting access to live trades.

Here is the first reference I could find to the MTI cost of 'leasing' it.

View attachment 923003

Just to confirm that Jacko Eckley and and Johan Kruger are these guys -both prominent scheme promoters and administrators.
View attachment 922993

We are all eager and impatient for the exit plot to eventually be revealed.

I am going to speculate that ownership and access to the black-box 'Bot' could indeed be the context for a host of exit narratives as to why trading cannot continue, the most simple being that the lease agreement was not renewed....

or

...the 'Bot' developers have gone into business with Steven Twain and cut of all contact with us.
...the black-box 'Bot" has been corrupted, requiring indefinite downtime for maintenance.

Either which way, no more access to the golden goose.

Incidentally, two more dots connected to previous MLM schemes:

Johan Kruger is connected to Werner Beukes. The same Werner that tried to hook Dr. Ong and who is presenting tonight's Q&A with JS

View attachment 923015

Werner has deleted all his previous MMM material, but there is still plenty of his posted material promoting Goldsave / GS Direct, a MLM scheme that Johan Kruger founded... Here are some samples of their materials

Earning Potential | Goldsave

www.goldsave.co.za

Goldsave Direct

www.youtube.com

Goldsave Primary Co-operative Ltd

It is with great pleasure to announce that you can now through Goldsave Co-op not only save in Gold, but also in Bitcoin. Our members can now spread their risk by saving in Gold and Bitcoin. The...

www.facebook.com

This is just posted for reference should anybody search for these guys in this repository. If this connection is already made, apologies - I did search the thread and nothing popped up.

and they went from 28 forex pairs to .................. 5 / 6 Cryptocurrencies worth trading..........bot must be trading overtime.........

 

[Snyper564]

I'm still struggling to get one guys staxx out into his valr account, if you want to pm me snype. He'd be grateful I'm sure..

Hey man sorry snowed under with work im sure there are many other peeps here that can help

But should be something like get valr wallet address withdraw from mti to that and sell on valr

 

[adslrouter]

Just recieved pic

bot taking off-days now......not daily results anymore.......bot is getting tired

 

[IndigoIdentity]

impossible to analyze them.....what they said yesterday, what they are saying today ----- black and white

Perhaps with the correct techniques one could gain more information on such behavior and how one might in future be able to determine the hallmarks of a scam of this nature.

Basically, if there are a lot of people doing xyz then it’s for these reasons and we should beware

Also, was going to say my previous comment regarding the Afrikaans community in general was what seems to me to be a pretty valid observation. It was not meant as a dig against Afrikaans people more so that I’d like to know why there are so many Afrikaans people who are heavily involved and actively promote this while refuting actual evidence as some kind of conspiracy fiction.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

bot taking off-days now......not daily results anymore.......bot is getting tired

Bot needs more bits to operate at full function

 

[RandomGeek]

Ja, boet. Johann has everything backed up in Excel.

Excel? You mean Notepad!

 

[LockdownSally]

Just something that caught my eye on the Maroela media comments. I assume this person is talking about MTI. If that is the case, then I bring you another red flag. This could then be why people are still investing and reqruiting like crazy as to not miss the chance to be part of the scam of a life time.

Anyone else notice MTI saying they're closing registrations before year end?

 

[Tman*]

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and they went from 28 forex pairs to .................. 5 / 6 Cryptocurrencies worth trading..........bot must be trading overtime.........

Bot is indeed trading overtime, except for weekends when they dont trade, cuz you know, bots need to rest too and the crypto markets close over weekends like the JSE.

 

[D@leW]

I see some fool is claiming:

Charl M8 hours ago:

The hacker was arrested last week and is facing criminal charges.

Yeah I got told that too. Asked for proof. Still waiting. The proof will probably be an announcement in the backoffice saying for legal reasons they can't disclose who the person is or when the court case will be, even though court cases are a matter of public record.