Mirror Trading International

[Bandersnatch]

Anyone else notice MTI saying they're closing registrations before year end?

Wasn't that a suggestion by someone to prove they are legit?

 

[Bandersnatch]

MTI's BS spin is that they do not own the black-box 'Bot' - they just have exclusive access to it.

It is also the developers / owners of the black-box 'Bot" that are restricting access to live trades.

Here is the first reference I could find to the MTI cost of 'leasing' it.

View attachment 923003

Just to confirm that Jacko Eckley and and Johan Kruger are these guys -both prominent scheme promoters and administrators.
View attachment 922993

We are all eager and impatient for the exit plot to eventually be revealed.

I am going to speculate that ownership and access to the black-box 'Bot' could indeed be the context for a host of exit narratives as to why trading cannot continue, the most simple being that the lease agreement was not renewed....

or

...the 'Bot' developers have gone into business with Steven Twain and cut of all contact with us.
...the black-box 'Bot" has been corrupted, requiring indefinite downtime for maintenance.

Either which way, no more access to the golden goose.

Incidentally, two more dots connected to previous MLM schemes:

Johan Kruger is connected to Werner Beukes. The same Werner that tried to hook Dr. Ong and who is presenting tonight's Q&A with JS

View attachment 923015

Werner has deleted all his previous MMM material, but there is still plenty of his posted material promoting Goldsave / GS Direct, a MLM scheme that Johan Kruger founded... Here are some samples of their materials

Earning Potential | Goldsave

www.goldsave.co.za

Goldsave Direct

www.youtube.com

Goldsave Primary Co-operative Ltd

It is with great pleasure to announce that you can now through Goldsave Co-op not only save in Gold, but also in Bitcoin. Our members can now spread their risk by saving in Gold and Bitcoin. The...

www.facebook.com

This is just posted for reference should anybody search for these guys in this repository. If this connection is already made, apologies - I did search the thread and nothing popped up.

And in the leaks...

User	Jxcx xcklxx & xshxr Bxll (Kxnsxrtxxm) from South Africa
Possible emails
Downlines

Member since

2019-10-26 (322 days)

Eckley & Bell in cahoots since the beginning,

 

[Tman*]

Yeah I got told that too. Asked for proof. Still waiting. The proof will probably be an announcement in the backoffice saying for legal reasons they can't disclose who the person is or when the court case will be, even though court cases are a matter of public record.

See post #7433 option C

 

[D@leW]

Heck, have you tried to see how much MLM ponzi software is sold in India??? Is it legal to do that stuff in India?

You'll find, much like bittorrent, that the software itself is probably legal. You could theoretically use this software for a real MLM system with an actual bot with real trades and real profits. The only problem it the returns would be too low to suck anyone in, and the "profits" would probably end up being "losses". But that's not the software's fault.

Now creating software on commission for someone you know to be intending to use it to commit a crime would make one an accomplice, but that's difficult to prove and still doesn't make the software itself illegal.

 

[D@leW]

The bottom line is whether or not they are really trading. They will have to produce evidence from a registered broker if they end in court, otherwise they are taking money under false pretenses because they are offering growth via trading.

I have no doubt the best legal team in South Africa will have no difficulty with this task. (I do remember that like Cheri wrote somewhere that Clynton was the best programmer in the country)

They made a whole thing about telling everyone that the new broker is unregulated, presumably because regulated brokers can be coerced into lying about them by "The Man". Anyone have the case number for MTI's libel claim against FXChoice? I want to see when the case is scheduled to be heard in court.

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

MTI's BS spin is that they do not own the black-box 'Bot' - they just have exclusive access to it.

It is also the developers / owners of the black-box 'Bot" that are restricting access to live trades.

Here is the first reference I could find to the MTI cost of 'leasing' it.

View attachment 923003

Just to confirm that Jacko Eckley and and Johan Kruger are these guys -both prominent scheme promoters and administrators.
View attachment 922993

We are all eager and impatient for the exit plot to eventually be revealed.

I am going to speculate that ownership and access to the black-box 'Bot' could indeed be the context for a host of exit narratives as to why trading cannot continue, the most simple being that the lease agreement was not renewed....

or

...the 'Bot' developers have gone into business with Steven Twain and cut of all contact with us.
...the black-box 'Bot" has been corrupted, requiring indefinite downtime for maintenance.

Either which way, no more access to the golden goose.

Incidentally, two more dots connected to previous MLM schemes:

Johan Kruger is connected to Werner Beukes. The same Werner that tried to hook Dr. Ong and who is presenting tonight's Q&A with JS

View attachment 923015

Werner has deleted all his previous MMM material, but there is still plenty of his posted material promoting Goldsave / GS Direct, a MLM scheme that Johan Kruger founded... Here are some samples of their materials

Earning Potential | Goldsave

www.goldsave.co.za

Goldsave Direct

www.youtube.com

Goldsave Primary Co-operative Ltd

It is with great pleasure to announce that you can now through Goldsave Co-op not only save in Gold, but also in Bitcoin. Our members can now spread their risk by saving in Gold and Bitcoin. The...

www.facebook.com

This is just posted for reference should anybody search for these guys in this repository. If this connection is already made, apologies - I did search the thread and nothing popped up.

Haha, about Johan Kruger. I recognized that face last Sunday - looks like a combo of his mom and dad. Last time I saw him, he was probably 8 years old. I’m a ‘65 baby so I was like 12. They lived about 5 houses from us in Kuils River. They moved from TVL and settled in Kuils River and started P.A.K Rubber as a family business. Very hard working family, back then anyway. Became a SupaQuick. Station Rd, Kuils River.

 

[4Snoopy]

This an indication the Members are about to Get Fuuked by the Leaders .....

 

[newby_investor]

They made a whole thing about telling everyone that the new broker is unregulated, presumably because regulated brokers can be coerced into lying about them by "The Man". Anyone have the case number for MTI's libel claim against FXChoice? I want to see when the case is scheduled to be heard in court.

What the heck is an unregulated broker anyway? I know little about trading but the word "unregulated" sets off warning bells for me.

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

Anyone else notice MTI saying they're closing registrations before year end?

If that statement was made, its probably a desperate drive to get as much moolah in asap - marketing drive basically.

 

[aofafrica]

If that statement was made, its probably a desperate drive to get as much moolah in asap - marketing drive basically.

Puts the FOMO in overdrive.
Clever.

 

[Whyarewehere]

I did a nice spread for him on my own page. Thieving s.o.b..

Where can we see your page ?

 

[LockdownSally]

Wasn't that a suggestion by someone to prove they are legit?

No shrugging icon - but I have no idea.

 

[LockdownSally]

If that statement was made, its probably a desperate drive to get as much moolah in asap - marketing drive basically.

Wonder when(if) it was made - BeforeHack or AfterHack?

 

[LockdownSally]

Puts the FOMO in overdrive.
Clever.

Sneaky

 

[D@leW]

So this is my first post here.

Hi

So I currently have some stubborn family members invested into MTI, that know nothing about technology. (I'm the one they always ask to fix their printer). They now want to lecture me how MTi is real... It's sad to see how people fall for this because they don't understand. MTI targets exactly these kinds of people and it shows how easily people can become sheep.

Just looking at the poorly made website, you can CLEARLY see it is dodge. Nevermind inspecting the website code to see crap HTML code. Really? They are pretending to be an Allan Grey with this crap...

Now how the hell does a person who made this crapfest website, manage to make the ultimate money-making bot?

I'm a well-experienced developer working in the financial sector. Basically bragging that I know how to code and work with numbers. So this means I should be able to build an even better bot...

hmm...

I'll be back in a months time posting my results on the ultimate money-making bot. MTI V2

They are leasing the uber-bot. That's where 25% of the profits from trading go. Johann said himself that he's not an expert when it comes to trading. In fact, not one single people in the MTI leadership seems to have any real knowledge or experience of trading, which is probably why they showed they are pretending to spread bet with a $50/BTC spread instead of pretending to day trade on an exchange with a small enough spread to have any chance of being profitable when day trading.

The uber-bot author, if they existed, would surely have suggested switching to a better platform with a better spread. This simple indisputable fact (that they are using a $50/BTC spread) is enough evidence to conclude this is a scam.

 

[newby_investor]

Wasn't that a suggestion by someone to prove they are legit?

No shrugging icon - but I have no idea.

Ask and ye shall receive:

Mirror Trading International

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. What a saint...

mybroadband.co.za

 

[newby_investor]

They are leasing the uber-bot. That's where 25% of the profits from trading go. Johann said himself that he's not an expert when it comes to trading. In fact, not one single people in the MTI leadership seems to have any real knowledge or experience of trading, which is probably why they showed they are pretending to spread bet with a $50/BTC spread instead of pretending to day trade on an exchange small enough spread to have any chance of being profitable when day trading.

The uber-bot author, if they existed, would surely have suggested switching to a better platform with a better spread. This simple indisputable fact (that they are using a $50/BTC spread) is enough evidence to conclude this is a scam.

This is like the old philosophical problem of, how do you hire a good designer unless you yourself have good taste?

I actually shouldn't put this here in case the MTI people are reading this thread, but it sounds like the perfect, pre-built excuse. "We don't understand trading so it was easy for this anonymous bot-author to fool us into thinking there was actual trading going on, it's him that has disappeared with all your BTC, not us! We were scammed too, just like the last umpteen times!"

 

[soulie]

If that statement was made, its probably a desperate drive to get as much moolah in asap - marketing drive basically.

I did see that, but i skimmed it ,im sure it said > by end of next year >

 

[Whyarewehere]

MTI's BS spin is that they do not own the black-box 'Bot' - they just have exclusive access to it.

It is also the developers / owners of the black-box 'Bot" that are restricting access to live trades.

Here is the first reference I could find to the MTI cost of 'leasing' it.

View attachment 923003

Just to confirm that Jacko Eckley and and Johan Kruger are these guys -both prominent scheme promoters and administrators.
View attachment 922993

We are all eager and impatient for the exit plot to eventually be revealed.

I am going to speculate that ownership and access to the black-box 'Bot' could indeed be the context for a host of exit narratives as to why trading cannot continue, the most simple being that the lease agreement was not renewed....

or

...the 'Bot' developers have gone into business with Steven Twain and cut of all contact with us.
...the black-box 'Bot" has been corrupted, requiring indefinite downtime for maintenance.

Either which way, no more access to the golden goose.

Incidentally, two more dots connected to previous MLM schemes:

Johan Kruger is connected to Werner Beukes. The same Werner that tried to hook Dr. Ong and who is presenting tonight's Q&A with JS

View attachment 923015

Werner has deleted all his previous MMM material, but there is still plenty of his posted material promoting Goldsave / GS Direct, a MLM scheme that Johan Kruger founded... Here are some samples of their materials

Earning Potential | Goldsave

www.goldsave.co.za

Goldsave Direct

www.youtube.com

Goldsave Primary Co-operative Ltd

It is with great pleasure to announce that you can now through Goldsave Co-op not only save in Gold, but also in Bitcoin. Our members can now spread their risk by saving in Gold and Bitcoin. The...

www.facebook.com

This is just posted for reference should anybody search for these guys in this repository. If this connection is already made, apologies - I did search the thread and nothing popped up.

You are spot on, if they are leasing the bot and using an unregulated forex trader (even though i dont think they trade much), this would be the exit premise, trader ran away with the bitcoin or the bot developer stole the bitcoin.

 

[soulie]

got it "pg369 "if this is what is being referred to about closing registrations.