Mirror Trading International

[Snyper564]

I remember yes, I listened to that. Didn't she have that same snotty attitude with them as well?

Yup and you gotta love the fact that there is recorded proof of her saying that she cannot talk Afrikaans but can speak it fluently when she chooses

 

[MegaTesla]

Seems like Vince is still around. I thought he might try to leave the country.

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Go read the comments on his page. Give David Roux a Bells!

"Go **** yourself". Not the first time the "leaders" and "directors" of this company is spewing that at people.

 

[Snyper564]

Seems like Vince is still around. I thought he might try to leave the country.

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Go read the comments on his page. Give David Roux a Bells!

"Go **** yourself". Not the first time the "leaders" and "directors" of this company is spewing that at people.

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Haha good laugh... Yay new targets for Sars lifestyle audits! Live it up hope you kept 50 percent of that car payment for tax..

 

[tetrasect]

I think they did do something like that on RSG which was transcribed on moneyweb a while ago? Just in response to the FSCA's thing, Cheri Marks came on and insisted (in effect) that it was actually the FSCA that was lying and not MTI. As I recall.

Just read the english translation and that final comment is classic!

Theo Voster: "I’d rather say if you want that type of yield now, post lockdown, go to a casino. It will give you free drinks and you can enjoy an evening’s entertainment and walk out with the same amount of money."



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Three views on a so-called ‘black box’ investment: MTI

The FSCA's Gerhard van Deventer, MTI spokesperson Cheri Marks and Galileo Capital's Theo Vorster share their standpoints on Mirror Trading International.

www.moneyweb.co.za

 

[ScamSpotter]

As MTI move to market their scam more prominently in other international "durasdictions", I do hope their risk of other more engaged / proactive regulatory bodies getting involved increases.

In the Middle East now? Islamic law treats fraud and theft VERY differently to us!

 

[soulie]

As MTI move to market their scam more prominently in other international "durasdictions", I do hope their risk of other more engaged / proactive regulatory bodies getting involved increases.

In the Middle East now? Islamic law treats fraud and theft VERY differently to us!

it can be difficult wiping your butt without hands !

 

[Venator]

As MTI move to market their scam more prominently in other international "durasdictions", I do hope their risk of other more engaged / proactive regulatory bodies getting involved increases.

In the Middle East now? Islamic law treats fraud and theft VERY differently to us!

it can be difficult wiping your butt without hands !

My current advice for the MTI goons would be:

If you plan on leaving SA, I strongly urge you to fly with Etihad or Emirates. I hear they accept Bitcoin and even give some discounts

 

[IndigoIdentity]

The maths dont add up. If this fool has made 14% of his investment so fast it means that certain teams are earning more in growth than others. Which in the end means they not treating everyone the same.

But that is what I said months ago based on the contradictory statements that were made in this thread by various MTI members. Either their math skills are horrible (quite possible) or this scam has been personalized for various individuals.

Basically, bring x amount of people in with their pension and see more of a “reward”?

 

[Waldman Jordaan]

@Waldman Jordaan hope things are progressing well and hopefully stuff begins happening soon.

This thing is still growing.

Between last night at 6:30pm and now (9:12am) my unfunded (I don't earn anything from it), "test", account has grown by 27 members. This is crazy...

It's looking like the only thing that will slow this down is when it falls over by itself :/

I hope so too. I've done the little I could contribute. Its now up to the authorities. Heck, even the mainstream press have done their Bit (pardon the pun).

 

[tetrasect]

I wish I had the money to form a lobby group to get the government and correct industries to take notice. But yeah, this wont end until the exit scam.

We could always spam their twitter... https://twitter.com/fsca_za

 

[newby_investor]

Seems like Vince is still around. I thought he might try to leave the country.

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Go read the comments on his page. Give David Roux a Bells!

"Go **** yourself". Not the first time the "leaders" and "directors" of this company is spewing that at people.

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Astonishing how touchy they get. You don't do things like that if you're innocent and falsely accused.

It reminds me of the drivers who drive badly and cause the accidents, they're always angriest at everyone else.

 

[Snyper564]

Astonishing how touchy they get. You don't do things like that if you're innocent and falsely accused.

It reminds me of the drivers who drive badly and cause the accidents, they're always angriest at everyone else.

As I said there is nothing to be jealous about here. There is no barrier to entry all I need to do is disregard every red flag take another mortgage in my bond and invest and I can have it all...

 

[Venator]

As I said there is nothing to be jealous about here. There is no barrier to entry all I need to do is disregard every red flag take another mortgage in my bond and invest and I can have it all...

FFS, where's your ponzitivity?

 

[LJ1234]

Telegram: somebody had the audacity to ask about auditing of MTI.

Peter Muller's rather lengthy reply

Would it be - How many Bitcoin MTI have or what the dollar or rand value is of the Bitcoin ? Or how many if any withdrawals have been done ? Wether or not live trading is taking place ? Just a reminder MTI are in the crypto space - MTI does not deal with Fiat currency so its not easy finding and external audit company to carry this out. A PTY (Ltd) company does not have to publish their financials publicly although the hacker gave some insight to this information I have been told however that in the new year MTI are hoping to have an audit done by a company such as KPMG or the like as they are or will have Crypto divisions do do this. To be very honest I have got to the point where my standpoint at this point in time is this: The Bitcoin balance is shown in the live trading stream If the FSCA believe MTI are a ponzi and that MTI are faking things then you have to aks yourself why have they not arrested anyone yet ? Johann and all the board of directors are fully exposed and not hiding anywhere as I do not believe they have anything to hide - they do not need to prove anything for anyone as they have shown the trading pool balance and have stated it openly on webinars the Bitcoin are there. All the directors including Johann Steynberg know that they will end up in jail if they are committing fraud. From the people I know who have known Johann for years as well as his father and mother and who are still good friends with him now I do not get any feeling that MTI are doing anything other than what they are openly stating to everyone. There comes a time when you need to either trust the people who are running the operation or not. We all know that everyone has access to their Bitcoin at ANY time to withdraw it. I personally trust Johann Steynberg and others and we all have freedom to choose - NO gun held to the head - I'm certainly not going to try convince anyone to stake or leave their Bitcoin in MTI if they don't feel comfortable but I feel very comfortable having a lot of Bitcoin in MTI. Lastly Id like to ask this question - how many people have asked their banks if they will show them proof of all theirs funds and if they have enough money (and prove it) to pay everyone out if everyone requested their funds at the same time. I have that answer for you but Ill reserve the right not to answer it

 

[tetrasect]

Telegram: somebody had the audacity to ask about auditing of MTI.

Peter Muller's rather lengthy reply

Would it be - How many Bitcoin MTI have or what the dollar or rand value is of the Bitcoin ? Or how many if any withdrawals have been done ? Wether or not live trading is taking place ? Just a reminder MTI are in the crypto space - MTI does not deal with Fiat currency so its not easy finding and external audit company to carry this out. A PTY (Ltd) company does not have to publish their financials publicly although the hacker gave some insight to this information I have been told however that in the new year MTI are hoping to have an audit done by a company such as KPMG or the like as they are or will have Crypto divisions do do this. To be very honest I have got to the point where my standpoint at this point in time is this: The Bitcoin balance is shown in the live trading stream If the FSCA believe MTI are a ponzi and that MTI are faking things then you have to aks yourself why have they not arrested anyone yet ? Johann and all the board of directors are fully exposed and not hiding anywhere as I do not believe they have anything to hide - they do not need to prove anything for anyone as they have shown the trading pool balance and have stated it openly on webinars the Bitcoin are there. All the directors including Johann Steynberg know that they will end up in jail if they are committing fraud. From the people I know who have known Johann for years as well as his father and mother and who are still good friends with him now I do not get any feeling that MTI are doing anything other than what they are openly stating to everyone. There comes a time when you need to either trust the people who are running the operation or not. We all know that everyone has access to their Bitcoin at ANY time to withdraw it. I personally trust Johann Steynberg and others and we all have freedom to choose - NO gun held to the head - I'm certainly not going to try convince anyone to stake or leave their Bitcoin in MTI if they don't feel comfortable but I feel very comfortable having a lot of Bitcoin in MTI. Lastly Id like to ask this question - how many people have asked their banks if they will show them proof of all theirs funds and if they have enough money (and prove it) to pay everyone out if everyone requested their funds at the same time. I have that answer for you but Ill reserve the right not to answer it

There, I highlighted the only true part in his post above.

 

[LJ1234]

The latest bait...dodgy testimonies

 

[bye_empty_eye]

Telegram: somebody had the audacity to ask about auditing of MTI.

Peter Muller's rather lengthy reply

Would it be - How many Bitcoin MTI have or what the dollar or rand value is of the Bitcoin ? Or how many if any withdrawals have been done ? Wether or not live trading is taking place ? Just a reminder MTI are in the crypto space - MTI does not deal with Fiat currency so its not easy finding and external audit company to carry this out. A PTY (Ltd) company does not have to publish their financials publicly although the hacker gave some insight to this information I have been told however that in the new year MTI are hoping to have an audit done by a company such as KPMG or the like as they are or will have Crypto divisions do do this. To be very honest I have got to the point where my standpoint at this point in time is this: The Bitcoin balance is shown in the live trading stream If the FSCA believe MTI are a ponzi and that MTI are faking things then you have to aks yourself why have they not arrested anyone yet ? Johann and all the board of directors are fully exposed and not hiding anywhere as I do not believe they have anything to hide - they do not need to prove anything for anyone as they have shown the trading pool balance and have stated it openly on webinars the Bitcoin are there. All the directors including Johann Steynberg know that they will end up in jail if they are committing fraud. From the people I know who have known Johann for years as well as his father and mother and who are still good friends with him now I do not get any feeling that MTI are doing anything other than what they are openly stating to everyone. There comes a time when you need to either trust the people who are running the operation or not. We all know that everyone has access to their Bitcoin at ANY time to withdraw it. I personally trust Johann Steynberg and others and we all have freedom to choose - NO gun held to the head - I'm certainly not going to try convince anyone to stake or leave their Bitcoin in MTI if they don't feel comfortable but I feel very comfortable having a lot of Bitcoin in MTI. Lastly Id like to ask this question - how many people have asked their banks if they will show them proof of all theirs funds and if they have enough money (and prove it) to pay everyone out if everyone requested their funds at the same time. I have that answer for you but Ill reserve the right not to answer it

... It's not that difficult... To start off with, just provide the wallet address(es) that adds up to the amount of Bitcoin that's shown in the scrapoffice... That's all... No reason not to provide at least that evidence...

 

[warrenpridgeon]

they do not need to prove anything for anyone as they have shown the trading pool balance and have stated it openly on webinars the Bitcoin are there.

Ja... just because someone says something is true does not make it so. MTI has in the past refused to provide "proof of BTC", now Cheri says she spends 90% of her time figuring out how they will prove this and will hopefully have it sorted in a month... it's not hard if you actually control the wallet.

how many people have asked their banks if they will show them proof of all theirs funds and if they have enough money (and prove it) to pay everyone out if everyone requested their funds at the same time.

Nice ANC move there Peter Muller... Try divert attention. MTI could win over the entire internet, including all the sceptics, yet they lie... tell stories and refuse to answer the hard questions. All shady tactics.

 

[tetrasect]

The latest bait...dodgy testimonies

Seriously pisses me off when they use the success of BTC as some kind of jumping off point for their scam.

 

[LJ1234]

Seems like Vince is still around. I thought he might try to leave the country.

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Go read the comments on his page. Give David Roux a Bells!

"Go **** yourself". Not the first time the "leaders" and "directors" of this company is spewing that at people.

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I wonder if they realise how contradictory the words of their mouths are to their professed religiosity. The Bible I read states that the same spring does not bring forth both fresh water and bitter water. They cannot praise God and curse people.