Miscarriage of justice

Vrotappel

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Lets hope they are considering ways to improve the situation. Something needs to be done.

Actually if the prosecution don't like the sentence they can appeal. But thanks to AA the Prosecutors are most probably clueless.
 

Darth Garth

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Don't understand the reasoning for the first case being reduced, though.

Well no s h i t Sherlock ... it does not take a bloody genius to figure this one out.

It was just plain good old Apartheid era racism where black lives are valued far less than those of other people.

The poor victim was tortured and beaten to death in the most gruesome manner possible and yet the w@nkers who did it get a fine and you telling me their skin colour and that of the magistrate had bugger all to do with it ???.

Please ... we are not that stupid.
 
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icyrus

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Well no ****e Sherlock ... it does not take a bloody genius to figure this one out.

It was just plain good old Apartheid era racism where black lives are valued far less than those of other people.

The poor victim was tortured and beaten to death in the most gruesome manner possible and yet the ****ers who did it get a fine and you telling me their skin colour and that of the magistrate had bugger all to do with it ???.

Please ... we are not that stupid.

So they are the only murders who got off on a reduced sentence in South African despite there being no reason for it? Come on, pull the other one.

No-one here is supporting the decision, you are just making this a racial thing for no reason. By your logic we can shout racism everytime a black person gets let of by a black judge etc...

Do better.
 

DigitalSoldier

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It was just plain good old Apartheid era racism where black lives are valued far less than those of other people.
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Limpopo farmers Gerhardt Vorster and Jacobus Botha, security guard Johannes Badenhorst and farm labourer Lucky Manenzhe assaulted Allan Rapatsa in October last year after accusing him of stealing copper cables. They beat him to death.

mm the article doesnt even give all the details why the judge imposed such a light sentence maybe there wasnt enough evidence kind of like the zuma trial ?

But anywayz Lucky Manenzhe is a very popular afrikaans name :rolleyes:
 

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Well no s h i t Sherlock ... it does not take a bloody genius to figure this one out.

It was just plain good old Apartheid era racism where black lives are valued far less than those of other people.

The poor victim was tortured and beaten to death in the most gruesome manner possible and yet the w@nkers who did it get a fine and you telling me their skin colour and that of the magistrate had bugger all to do with it ???.

Please ... we are not that stupid.

Ah... so the skin colour of the thousands of criminals who commit crimes as vile and yet are not convicted matter as well? What goes for one side goes for the other. Like I said, corruption, not race.
 

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We did have but it was "cancelled" in 1969 not really sure about the date but its from the top of my head now but it was during the 60's :D

Our legal system changed entirely, most likely due to the fact that South Africa was attempting to break British colonialism stronholds.
 

Darth Garth

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But anywayz Lucky Manenzhe is a very popular afrikaans name :rolleyes:

The law considers those instigating the crime just as guilty as those doing the dirty work of others.

One can wonder why Lucky Manenzhe did what he did but then what choices does one have when you are working on a farm and the "baas" tells you to do something even if you don't want to.

I am sure telling them about the Council for Mediation and Reconciliation and the Labour Court and the human rights of the victim would have gone down rather swimmingly with Gerhardt, Jacobus and Johannes.
 

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The law considers those instigating the crime just as guilty as those doing the dirty work of others.

One can wonder why Lucky Manenzhe did what he did but then what choices does one have when you are working on a farm and the "baas" tells you to do something even if you don't want to.

I am sure telling them about the Council for Mediation and Reconciliation and the Labour Court and the human rights of the victim would have gone down rather swimmingly with Gerhardt, Jacobus and Johannes.

Oh shame. tibby have a bad day again?
 

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Angelo: You posted that article to elicit a response from fellow members, to get a reaction! Definately not because you care about the poor guy that got killed.

So stop pretending. You are just as racist as some people who post here.

And Tibby: Are you Angelo's little sidekick? Always trying to make as if all white people are evil and racist. Please stop, you are really irritating.

:mad:
 

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Angelo: You posted that article to elicit a response from fellow members, to get a reaction! Definately not because you care about the poor guy that got killed.

So stop pretending. You are just as racist as some people who post here.

And Tibby: Are you Angelo's little sidekick? Always trying to make as if all white people are evil and racist. Please stop, you are really irritating.

:mad:

Ironic isn't it. The whities are all bad, yet tibby married one.
 

DigitalSoldier

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Ironic isn't it. The whities are all bad, yet tibby married one.

Like Chris Rock (the black comedian) said the most racist people are old black men and his uncle is the biggest racist of them all but married to a white woman :D

This was on a 1998 show called bigger and blacker.

An interesting discussion about racism on the urbandictionary.com and no its not some KKK website tibby :p

If you're a white man, this is what you are. It doesn't even matter if your wife is black and you have an adopted child from India, or how many black friends you have, somehow you're going to end up being a racist according to how the media portrays the white man as "racist whities".

All of this is funny because the white man is the one that is stereotyped as being racist, which is hypocrisy at its best. It's racist to assume that white men are racists.

If you don't get offended by racial insults, then you're apparently racist too, but an actual racist would get offended by it.
 

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Angelo: You posted that article to elicit a response from fellow members, to get a reaction! Definately not because you care about the poor guy that got killed.

So stop pretending. You are just as racist as some people who post here.

And Tibby: Are you Angelo's little sidekick? Always trying to make as if all white people are evil and racist. Please stop, you are really irritating.

:mad:
Why post something on a public forum if you don't want a response?

So does pointing out racist judicial decisions make me a racist? Believe I'm just as racist if that makes you feel better about yourself.
 

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We systematically dehumanise & hold back the majority for years and then expect a stable, civilised society to come out of thin air the moment democracy arrives

2006 - 1994 = 12 (year(s)) How much longer must we wait for a stable civilised society... but at least you agree that society is not stable or civolised
 

jontyB

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We systematically dehumanise & hold back the majority for years and then expect a stable, civilised society to come out of thin air the moment democracy arrives

2006 - 1994 = 12 (year(s)) How much longer must we wait for a stable civilised society... but at least you agree that society is not stable or civolised

just one correction to your calculation:

2006 - 1992 (ANC was unbanned in 1990, Apartheid was no more by 1992). Apartheid didn't suddenly end on election day. So 14 going on 15 years.
 
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