MMA (Mixed Martial Arts)

What a fight. Had DDP R1 and R2. R3 and R4 was going towards Izzy but luckily it ended there as DDP started gassing. And lol at the translator translating Afrikaans to Afrikaans and then using "moer" in English
 
skimread said:
Joe Rogan live reaction.
Because Izzy was doing well in round 4 before the submission everyone thought Izzy would win.
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Schaub is the biggest ahole in the MMA community, I have disliked him for years now.

Amazing how these guys still wont give Drickus any recognition for his skills. Oh he is durable and has heart.
 
dotdan said:
Schaub is the biggest ahole in the MMA community, I have disliked him for years now.

Amazing how these guys still wont give Drickus any recognition for his skills. Oh he is durable and has heart.
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He is also the most undeserving person to make it to the UFC.
Remember when Rogan had to publicly tell him to stop fighting or he would get hurt.

Not sure who the other chops were - but its still pretty dumb to get surprised when a fighter who is unbeaten in the UFC, and has finished 90% of his opponents, finishes a fight. Especially against an opponent who has won one of his last 3 fights.
 
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Nerfherder said:
He is also the most undeserving person to make it to the UFC.
Remember when Rogan had to publicly tell him to stop fighting or he would get hurt.

Not sure who the other chops were - but its still pretty dumb to get surprised when a fighter who is unbeaten in the UFC, and has finished 90% of his opponents, finishes a fight. Especially against an opponent who has won one of his last 3 fights.
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Ja after Travis fcked him up good.. remember that shyte.

All those dude's even ol Joe was based af. If I listen to Luke Thomas and DC, they are starting to see what DDP can do. Even if it looks weird, it is all within a plan.
 
Nerfherder said:
He is also the most undeserving person to make it to the UFC.
Remember when Rogan had to publicly tell him to stop fighting or he would get hurt.

Not sure who the other chops were - but its still pretty dumb to get surprised when a fighter who is unbeaten in the UFC, and has finished 90% of his opponents, finishes a fight. Especially against an opponent who has won one of his last 3 fights.
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heres the thing... Izzy has been overrated for the longest time. Not his striking, his MMA

As a striker, early on he may have been good but we saw how that declined into point fighting later on.

And also... for those who must'a forgot

THIS IS MMA

as a Mixed Martial artist... izzy is poor

Dricus won this fight by mixing it up. something Izzy has failed to do because of idiots like Rogan and glazers like DC etc. giving him flowers for a quarter of the required skillset of the sport
 
ShloshMalosh said:
heres the thing... Izzy has been overrated for the longest time. Not his striking, his MMA

As a striker, early on he may have been good but we saw how that declined into point fighting later on.

And also... for those who must'a forgot

THIS IS MMA

as a Mixed Martial artist... izzy is poor

Dricus won this fight by mixing it up. something Izzy has failed to do because of idiots like Rogan and glazers like DC etc. giving him flowers for a quarter of the required skillset of the sport
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What a load of nonsense. Izzy is a great mixed martial artist. His kickboxing is fantastic. His grappling and wrestling are good enough that he's never been submitted before this fight. His movement is excellent, his striking is excellent.

Don't diminish his skills just because he lost.
 
ShloshMalosh said:
heres the thing... Izzy has been overrated for the longest time. Not his striking, his MMA

As a striker, early on he may have been good but we saw how that declined into point fighting later on.

And also... for those who must'a forgot

THIS IS MMA

as a Mixed Martial artist... izzy is poor

Dricus won this fight by mixing it up. something Izzy has failed to do because of idiots like Rogan and glazers like DC etc. giving him flowers for a quarter of the required skillset of the sport
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Agree mostly. Izzy has never been a grappler / wrestler. He has relied on very strong TDD, and he was still pretty good at it in this fight, along with very good movement / striking. A "prime" izzy in that fight, i think would have gotten away with it and taken a win on points. I actually do believe him when he said DDP becomes predictable and it did feel like he was getting better as the fight went on, I dont see him beating DDP in the future, but he still can compete at a very high level.
 
UrBaN963 said:
What a load of nonsense. Izzy is a great mixed martial artist. His kickboxing is fantastic. His grappling and wrestling are good enough that he's never been submitted before this fight. His movement is excellent, his striking is excellent.

Don't diminish his skills just because he lost.
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I never said he wasnt good. just overrated

as a proper mixed martial artist, hes lacking. As a striker hes up there

but i will say it again. this is MMA

the elite are those that can do it all to a high level, not some of it to a satisfactory level.
 
ShloshMalosh said:
heres the thing... Izzy has been overrated for the longest time. Not his striking, his MMA

As a striker, early on he may have been good but we saw how that declined into point fighting later on.

And also... for those who must'a forgot

THIS IS MMA

as a Mixed Martial artist... izzy is poor

Dricus won this fight by mixing it up. something Izzy has failed to do because of idiots like Rogan and glazers like DC etc. giving him flowers for a quarter of the required skillset of the sport
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100%
Izzy has been amazing at keeping the fight off the ground. His kickboxing is next level. He was a tough nut to crack.
Dirkus just figured it out. Then on the ground Izzy was tired and outclassed. Exposed.
Strickland could have the same thing but never took the initiative.

The commentators need to process the fact that Dricus is a Judoka who has punched his way through this division.
When you look at it from that POV he totally makes sense.
 
UrBaN963 said:
What a load of nonsense. Izzy is a great mixed martial artist. His kickboxing is fantastic. His grappling and wrestling are good enough that he's never been submitted before this fight. His movement is excellent, his striking is excellent.

Don't diminish his skills just because he lost.
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He is one of the best strikers but how long has he actually spent on the mat ?
How many times has he taken the fight to the mat ?

Avoidance is a poor strategy.
 
Nerfherder said:
He is one of the best strikers but how long has he actually spent on the mat ?
How many times has he taken the fight to the mat ?

Avoidance is a poor strategy.
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Take down defense is an extremely important skill. He's generally very good at it.

Look, I'm not the guy's #1 fan, but he destroyed everybody, defended his belt multiple times due to his high-level skills everywhere. He isn't the best wrestler/grappler, but he doesn't need to be. He just needs to be good enough.

Not sure how he can be overrated when you look at his resume. Seems like some recency bias.
 
UrBaN963 said:
No. Drinking, lack of discipline and immense PR responsibilities lead to a loss to Strickland.
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are these excuses or reasons?

reasons are based in facts
excuses are based in bullshit

Again, the elite are those who go train when their mates are going out for a beer.

His coaches are also to blame for being yes men and not developing the other facets required to be an elite MMArtist

rather have something and not need it vs needing something and not have it. This fool has been hitting the pads and feeling good when he could have upped his wrestling. He was already an elite striker before starting MMA. A good coach would have looked at plugging the holes instead of trying to hide them.
 
ShloshMalosh said:
are these excuses or reasons?

reasons are based in facts
excuses are based in bullshit

Again, the elite are those who go train when their mates are going out for a beer.

His coaches are also to blame for being yes men and not developing the other facets required to be an elite MMArtist

rather have something and not need it vs needing something and not have it. This fool has been hitting the pads and feeling good when he could have upped his wrestling. He was already an elite striker before starting MMA. A good coach would have looked at plugging the holes instead of trying to hide them.
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But he does have wrestling and grappling. He didn't lose due to a lack of wrestling or grappling. Hi lost due to getting smacked in the face and then taken down when he was tired and unable to resist the choke like he had earlier in the fight.

I agree with you regarding training etc., and I'm not saying he is in any way perfect or couldn't do things better.

My argument is against the "overrated" claim. He's an excellent fighter and is rated as such.

I'm curious to see if he can come back though, or if his time has passed. He's 35, so not ancient by any means but certainly getting up there.
 
ShloshMalosh said:
are these excuses or reasons?

reasons are based in facts
excuses are based in bullshit

Again, the elite are those who go train when their mates are going out for a beer.

His coaches are also to blame for being yes men and not developing the other facets required to be an elite MMArtist

rather have something and not need it vs needing something and not have it. This fool has been hitting the pads and feeling good when he could have upped his wrestling. He was already an elite striker before starting MMA. A good coach would have looked at plugging the holes instead of trying to hide them.
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I mostly agree with your sentiments, however, all mm artists focus on their strengths first.

This worked brilliantly for Izzy in the past, but age has a way of humbling a person.
He's 35 now and has lost a lot of speed and power and going by his comments at the presser, I think he realizes his championship aspirations are over.
 
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