Mmusi Maimane will resign as DA leader

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TheJman said:
Cool story bro... you know when you look for demons, you find them. And you have been convinced by the likes of guptas et al that if the DA get into power, apartheid will be brought back... you need to get your tinfoil hat off and see that all the race division that is being spread, is by parties like the anc and eff, because fear is a much more effective tool at getting people to vote for you....
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The truth is inconvenient - no one likes it and you're no exception - creating nonsensical smokescreen... bringing the ANC and EFF into a DA mess... Why not include the right-wing FF+ while you're at it? because it doesn't suit your narrative? Either you're clueless or you're naive...
 
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thestaggy said:
Its a bit of everything, really.

Sure they focused too much on Zuma, but at the same time this new woke, race as a proxy crew within the DA was diametrically opposed to the DA's core roots of classical liberalism and equity.

Its ironic that they accuse Zille and her support base as racist and right-wing when the faction now running away is the one that started with the identity politics.
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No not because of focusing on Zuma, they assumed that a Gupta stooge would win the nomination and as a result there would be millions of disenfranchised ANC voters of for grabs, so they focused on the ANCs lowest common denominator.
 
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newjourno said:
Seems like the media did over-hype the Steenhuisen bit. He had to automatically step down as he was Chief Whip under Maimane and Maimane's reign as leader came to and end and so did his reign as Chief Whip.

His Tweet yesterday after Maimane and Trollip's exits seemed to indicate that he will remain a member of the DA. He will probably get one of the major leadership posts when the DA elects and could be in contest for leadership as well.

Strategically though, it may not be a good move from DA to make him their leader. They should ideally go with Madikizela or Winde to maintain Western Cape.
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I would love to see Steenhuisen rise to the top. Every single speech of his that I have watched has been great.

The question arises is whether the DA now leans hard into non-racialism and makes a white person the face of the party (very risky considering their perception amongst the average joe), or if they backpedal and go for someone less known but the right skin colour (I'm not super clued up on the DA but as far as I can tell their major African/black/not white people seem to have left except for Van Damme and Solly).
 
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Polymathic said:
The DA has always been a Leftist Party, they are still going to be fairly leftist.
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Centre, maybe a bit to the left on some things, bit to the right on others.

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You're confusing liberalism with socialism.

DA has always been a liberal party...
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They're near the centre. They're basically social democrats. They're liberal on some social issues and conservative on others. Their economic policies seem to favour a social democracy.

lsheed_cn said:
Less liberal BS, more conservatism, and an actual plan.
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Well I think they want progress rather than staying in the same place or going backwards. So they'll need to be social liberals. Probably some economic liberalism too.

Many conservatives tend to lean towards neoclassical or neoliberal economics. Less common are those that favour actual capitalism rather than the former pseudo versions.
 
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thestaggy said:
It is new.

Show me anywhere in history where the DA or its precursors positioned themselves as a minority party?

It was always a liberal party built on the concept of equity. Mmaimane's crew is the one that fvcked it from the inside with the race stuff.
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You seem to forget that it was Zille who started "grooming" black leaders to attract more of the black vote. And her disastrous courtship of Ramphele and then Agang.
 
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hungrymamba said:
She's black, so she won't. The DA sampled blacks and it didn't really work out - the real DA owners will take charge now.
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You might not see it this way, but it's not necessarily a race issue. Maimane was definitely guiding the party in a direction of being ANC-lite.

The argument that if we help people who are less well off (regardless of the colour of their skin) is solid. The only people who would be kakking are the tenderpreneurs or people who got where they are ONLY because they have larger amounts of melanin in their skin.
 
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zolly said:
You might not see it this way, but it's not necessarily a race issue. Maimane was definitely guiding the party in a direction of being ANC-lite.

The argument that if we help people who are less well off (regardless of the colour of their skin) is solid. The only people who would kakking are the tenderpreneurs or people who got where they are ONLY because they have larger amounts of melanin in their skin.
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Yes, Gwen seems more compatible with whatever the true DA stands for.
 
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Annelie Lotriet confirmed as acting DA Parliamentary leader

Cape Town - Democratic Alliance (DA) caucus leader Annelie Lotriet has confirmed she is acting as the Parliamentary leader until the election of a new leader next week.

Lotriet said the election of the Parliamentary leader would be either on Tuesday or Thursday and will contact the federal executive on the matter.

www.iol.co.za

Annelie Lotriet confirmed as acting DA Parliamentary leader

DA caucus leader Annelie Lotriet has confirmed she is acting as Parliamentary leader until the election of a new leader next week.
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Related but slightly OT, I have some sympathy for Gwen. The amount of flak she gets online for "rejecting her blackness/African-ness" (whatever that is) is ridiculous. I'm not white and I am such a mixed bag culturally (if they ever put "bastard child of the internet" on our identity documents I will tick it). Yes, she changed her name, so maybe part of her rejected her cultural roots, but until we know why we can't really judge it. She may hate being black, or she may hate a part of her culture for a good reason. Only she knows.
 
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Annelie Lotriet confirmed as acting DA Parliamentary leader

Cape Town - Democratic Alliance (DA) caucus leader Annelie Lotriet has confirmed she is acting as the Parliamentary leader until the election of a new leader next week.

Lotriet said the election of the Parliamentary leader would be either on Tuesday or Thursday and will contact the federal executive on the matter.

www.iol.co.za

Annelie Lotriet confirmed as acting DA Parliamentary leader

DA caucus leader Annelie Lotriet has confirmed she is acting as Parliamentary leader until the election of a new leader next week.
www.iol.co.za www.iol.co.za
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The old guard moves in... Make the DA Great Again. :ROFL: :laugh:
 
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The new leader (permanent, not acting) will surely bring Steenhuisen in again as chief whip?
 
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zolly said:
Related but slightly OT, I have some sympathy for Gwen. The amount of flak she gets online for "rejecting her blackness/African-ness" (whatever that is) is ridiculous. I'm not white and I am such a mixed bag culturally (if they ever put "bastard child of the internet" on our identity documents I will tick it). Yes, she changed her name, so maybe part of her rejected her cultural roots, but until we know why we can't really judge it. She may hate being black, or she may hate a part of her culture for a good reason. Only she knows.
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She did?
 
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ForceFate said:
DA has just handed ANC enough propaganda war chest for the next few years.
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Don't see this.

MM should have resigned after last election, he was a disaster.

I don't support DA, but a clean-out is positive IMO.
 
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