Mmusi Maimane will resign as DA leader

TheChamp

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Zille is a good politician, she knew very well what kind of response she would get for her tweets, that is why she never made any controversial tweets while she was still the leader and dancing to Vulindlela with black people.
 
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The fact that it caused damage is actually the bit that is extremely disconcerting.
The fact that a seasoned politician doubled down on it after they knew it was going to be damaging not only to the image, but to the black vote of the party is more concerning.

Oh yeah, I forgot...random internet guy decided that it wasn't that, it was just people tired of BS
 

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I see a number of the lower level now resigning and moving over to the ANC.
GOOD RIDDANCE I say
Were only ever in it for what it could bring them -- LOOT !

It is always a difficult and painful experience when the ROT must be LANCED !

DA getting rid of the opportunists ......

Better to fight on as one -- like Helen Suzman
 

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The fact that a seasoned politician doubled down on it after they knew it was going to be damaging not only to the image, but to the black vote of the party is more concerning.

Oh yeah, I forgot...random internet guy decided that it wasn't that, it was just people tired of BS
You're late to the party boet. That argument was won by the logic team while the feels team did their pigeon thing.

So should we now suddenly play into it, tell people they are great, they can fly, then wait till they believe it and leap off Hillbrow tower.

Hmm, perhaps that is not such a kuk idea ...

Enjoy your weekend.
 

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You're late to the party boet. That argument was won by the logic team while the feels team did their pigeon thing.

So should we now suddenly play into it, tell people they are great, they can fly, then wait till they believe it and leap off Hillbrow tower.

Hmm, perhaps that is not such a kuk idea ...

Enjoy your weekend.

What "logic" team? The loss of the black vote speaks volumes, as the "feels" team said it would. Seems they got it wrong, somehow.
 

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I see a number of the lower level now resigning and moving over to the ANC.
GOOD RIDDANCE I say
Were only ever in it for what it could bring them -- LOOT !

It is always a difficult and painful experience when the ROT must be LANCED !

DA getting rid of the opportunists ......

Better to fight on as one -- like Helen Suzman
Don't worry, they will soon be welcoming other opportunists from other parties, that is just politics.
 
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It is also not true that Maimane has been liberalism’s best ever black representative – there have been a number of very able black liberals such as Jordan Ngubane, Albert Luthuli or, more recently, Gwen Ngwenya. Indeed, the problem about Maimane was precisely that he wasn’t much of a liberal.

He had voted ANC in 1999 and 2004 and was quite happy with Mbeki, despite the fact that the latter’s Aids denialism cost the lives of some 365,000 black people. In 2009 he voted for COPE.

So it wasn’t until 2014 that he voted DA nationally. Three weeks later he became the party’s parliamentary leader, a quite absurd promotion. He was an incongruous leader, vocally rejecting the theory of evolution and thus the whole Enlightenment tradition, arguing for demographic representivity and for making race central to the DA’s notion of social justice. Given this and the DA’s espousal of affirmative action and BEE, it is hardly surprising that the party attracted the sobriquet of “ANC lite”.

This was, of course, in line with the DA’s naive pursuit of identity politics which saw the party repeatedly confer power and responsibility on people with either no, or very shallow, roots in the party – Lindiwe Mazibuko, Mamphela Ramphaele, Patricia de Lille, Herman Mashaba and other iterations at provincial level. Some black voices have been raised saying that the DA set these leaders up to fail.

This is very largely accurate for politics is like any other career, requiring a good deal of hard work, perseverance, learning from toil at the coal face and from an unending study of history, political biography and economics. If people – of whatever race - are jumped virtually from nowhere into leadership positions without any of this behind them, they are virtually certain to fail.

Amazingly, the DA leadership went so overboard for identity politics that it assumed all this lacking experience and knowledge could be compensated for simply by having the “right” skin colour. Contrary to what Harvey says, the DA was utterly steeped in the politics of race.

In all the cases above this led not just to disaster but on every occasion that disaster duly occurred the nominee in question turned round and, with considerable bitterness, played the race card against the party which had given them their political career. Maimane, in his resignation speech, did this yet again, as had Mashaba, de Lille and Mazibuko. Such behaviour would have been unthinkable if he and the others named above had been truly committed to the liberal project or had been in the party long enough to grow deep roots in it. And that is really the key.

The DA certainly wants and needs black, Coloured and Indian leaders but it has to grow them organically, allowing them to win their spurs over a period of time just like their white compatriots. Accelerated promotion is a road to disaster.

Maimane’s resignation was in every way a curious affair. How could he not know that to appear next to Mashaba as he denounced the DA, not only calling Mashaba a “hero” but holding his fist aloft like a boxing champion – would at best seem inept, at worst treacherous?

Similarly, whenever the issue of his Steinhoff car and his rented house came up, Maimane insisted that this was all an attempted smear by his enemies. Yet he never attempted any answer to the questions of “why did you say the house belonged to you when it didn’t?” and “why did you keep driving that car for many months after its potentially fraudulent source was revealed?”

 

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I don't know. I can't take anyone who pretends that Mbeki gave all of SA aids seriously. It is as if he forced people to have unprotected sex.
 

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What of the predictions of a black exodus from the DA and the certainty of electoral disaster in the 2021 local elections? None of us can be that confident of knowing the future but the argument is not straightforward. First, it should be noted that Mmusi presided over a considerable fall in black support for the DA.

DA's own stats proves this to be wrong though, they actually prove that Maimane presided over a considerable rise in black support for the DA, did the esteemed writer miss something or did the DA review panel get it wrong?
 

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DA's own stats proves this to be wrong though, they actually prove that Maimane presided over a considerable rise in black support for the DA, did the esteemed writer miss something or did the DA review panel get it wrong?
Ask reitrot. He know what all people are thinking apparently. My personal feel, he should get out more. But he's got the finger on all the pulses, like professor X
 

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Maimane’s resignation was in every way a curious affair. How could he not know that to appear next to Mashaba as he denounced the DA, not only calling Mashaba a “hero” but holding his fist aloft like a boxing champion – would at best seem inept, at worst treacherous?

Treacherous to whom exactly? The ruling cabal of the DA? Who Mashaba was actually against
 

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The ruling cabal of the DA? Who Mashaba was actually against
That "ruling cabal" offered him a job -- he VOLUNTARILY took up the offer
ALL this is is SOUR GRAPES

You do NOT go bad -mouthing your LAST employer ...
VERY bad form -- but I guess that is beyond him !

Let us see what he does next -- with that fancy property he "OWNS" ....
 

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That "ruling cabal" offered him a job -- he VOLUNTARILY took up the offer
ALL this is is SOUR GRAPES

You do NOT go bad -mouthing your LAST employer ...
VERY bad form -- but I guess that is beyond him !

Let us see what he does next -- with that fancy property he "OWNS" ....

He took a poisoned chalice, I'm sure he didn't know that when he took it.

You do go badmouthing your last employer, if they blame you for not being able to achieve your tasks whilst undermining your authority the whole time.

I think you're just too used to the "thank you, baas" attitude. That frikkin ingrate didn't appreciate all those gifts what his masters gave him
 

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I wonder if there will be any controversial tweets from Zille now that her mission is accomplished? Back to dancing in townships?
 

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I wonder if there will be any controversial tweets from Zille now that her mission is accomplished? Back to dancing in townships?
Which part of no more pandering to blacks didn't you get? It's pure liberalism and nothing else from now, those black can come to the party if they want to, no one is going to beg.
 
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