Mom hospitalized after her 2 kids killed in pit bull attack [US]

[RiaX]

This is why if you have strong killer dogs and small children, you don't the dogs on your bed or on the couch, the kids go there, the dog gets the message.

Your dog should automatically be sent outside permanently when you have small kids. Even a lab or a shepherd have the strength to kill a small child. So mitigate the risk put em outside.

The problem comes when the kids get too comfortable with the animal then go and poke and prod it. Terriers have a short temper

For people starting a family. Get the puppy with the baby. If you already have the dog then outside with said dog

 

[wingnut771]

Your dog should automatically be sent outside permanently when you have small kids. Even a lab or a shepherd have the strength to kill a small child. So mitigate the risk put em outside.

The problem comes when the kids get too comfortable with the animal then go and poke and prod it. Terriers have a short temper

For people starting a family. Get the puppy with the baby. If you already have the dog then outside with said dog

I disagree. Dogs are pack animals. Sending them outside is unnatural. That's probably how this whole thing started. Why doesn't the 100kg dog rip the face off the 1kg dog?

 

[RiaX]

I disagree. Dogs are pack animals. Sending them outside is unnatural. That's probably how this whole thing started. Why doesn't the 100kg dog rip the face off the 1kg dog?

Exactly they are pack animals your children are not high up in the hierarchy. So while your kids are growing keep them outside

 

[AchmatK]

German shepherds scare me the most.

Okay for work dogs, but definitely not a pet I would ever keep.

I've always been a GSD guy. They are extremely loyal and very obedient.

Second pic on the other hand is my first husky and never ever again. My GSD is going on 14 years now so will get another pup soon.

 

[wingnut771]

Exactly they are pack animals your children are not high up in the hierarchy. So while your kids are growing keep them outside

Your family (including the dogs) = the pack. Your children should be equal to you. Hierarchy: human > dog. By the time your kids are grown, the dogs will be psychotic anti-human if left outside.

 

[AchmatK]

Yeah, I think too much inbreeding, they're a bit loopy.

I've always gotten mine from friends or family when they have pups. Never feel for the pedigree bloodline crap with the angled back leading to hip issues.

All my GSDs have lived healthy lives to over 13 years. My last pup 8 have to my sister and he was an only pup when he was born
He looks like a bear when he's out but the most gentle

 

[wingnut771]

I've always been a GSD guy. They are extremely loyal and very obedient.

Second pic on the other hand is my first husky and never ever again. My GSD is going on 14 years now so will get another pup soon. View attachment 1397089 View attachment 1397091 View attachment 1397095 View attachment 1397097

My neighbour has 2 dogs, a German Shepard and a Labrador. They spend their whole existence outside on their own in the back yard. Only time they get human contact is when the guy comes to refill the dog bowls with kibble. The Alsatian just barks (that unsure unconfident bark) at any noise almost constantly, the Lab only barks when there are monkeys around. I feel so bad for them.

 

[Jean Claude Vaaldamme]

Well I see all the tv dog whisperers have entered the building.
Even read Cesar from Wish say you must raise your Pitbull docile.
Getting a Lion for my kids tomorrow, going to raise him docile
Hold my beer.

 

[rietrot]

Well I see all the tv dog whisperers have entered the building.
Even read Cesar from Wish say you must raise your Pitbull docile.
Getting a Lion for my kids tomorrow, going to raise him docile
Hold my beer.

Watch out for the TV, make sure it's properly secured. You do not want it falling over when you angrily watch dog trainers. It can be deadly

 

[wingnut771]

Well I see all the tv dog whisperers have entered the building.
Even read Cesar from Wish say you must raise your Pitbull docile.
Getting a Lion for my kids tomorrow, going to raise him docile
Hold my beer.

Lions haven't been domesticated for thousands of years.

 

[AchmatK]

My neighbour has 2 dogs, a German Shepard and a Labrador. They spend their whole existence outside on their own in the back yard. Only time they get human contact is when the guy comes to refill the dog bowls with kibble. The Alsatian just barks (that unsure unconfident bark) at any noise almost constantly, the Lab only barks when there are monkeys around. I feel so bad for them.

My dogs are also outside dogs but my kids play with them every day.

My son is with me since he was 3. We've had a number of kids stay with us over holidays from various children's homes (9 months to 8 years old) and they all are extremely afraid of any animal, cats or dogs. I don't think they get to experience pets when they grow up in a children's home but by the time they leave us after 2 weeks they are best friends with my GSDs.

 

[rietrot]

Your dog should automatically be sent outside permanently when you have small kids. Even a lab or a shepherd have the strength to kill a small child. So mitigate the risk put em outside.

The problem comes when the kids get too comfortable with the animal then go and poke and prod it. Terriers have a short temper

For people starting a family. Get the puppy with the baby. If you already have the dog then outside with said dog

I'm not one for big dogs in the house, I think they can and should be outside, but that does limit healthy interaction.

I bet in the case of these attacks that the dogs are in too small of a pen and get very limited attention. They are not part of the family, they are gaurd dogs or kept for breeding. Then you have to be careful, especially with a smaller children.

 

[rietrot]

Lions haven't been domesticated for thousands of years.

There's a strong argument that no cat can really be domesticated.

They just do their own thing.

 

[wingnut771]

My dogs are also outside dogs but my kids play with them every day.

My son is with me since he was 3. We've had a number of kids stay with us over holidays from various children's homes (9 months to 8 years old) and they all are extremely afraid of any animal, cats or dogs. I don't think they get to experience pets when they grow up in a children's home but by the time they leave us after 2 weeks they are best friends with my GSDs. View attachment 1397105

Your dogs look well socialised and stimulated.

 

[wingnut771]

My dogs are also outside dogs but my kids play with them every day.

My son is with me since he was 3. We've had a number of kids stay with us over holidays from various children's homes (9 months to 8 years old) and they all are extremely afraid of any animal, cats or dogs. I don't think they get to experience pets when they grow up in a children's home but by the time they leave us after 2 weeks they are best friends with my GSDs. View attachment 1397105

Here are my baby killers:

 

[AchmatK]

Your dogs look well socialised and stimulated.

They should be. They have over 400m² all to themselves. But the husky still bolts for gate every time she sees a gap. The GSD will not cross the line for the sliding gate.

 

[wingnut771]

They should be. They have over 400m² all to themselves. But the husky still bolts for gate every time she sees a gap. The GSD will not cross the line for the sliding gate.

Husky's are well known escape artists. I think they need very long walks daily (get some rollerblades). High energy dogs those.

 

[RunningFromFat]

This thread is slowly turning into a dog picture thread, and it's way better content!

 

[airborne]

I grew up with Doberman’s and they were totally awesome, never once did I feel threatened by them, though they made people sht themselves when they walked onto the property unannounced, that was always funny to watch.

They have very menacing looks and they can stand rather tall, they aren’t stocky but in good condition they will be ripped af and very nimble, looking at one you will have absolutely no doubt that they can rip you to shreds in a heartbeat if things go south.

Very powerful dogs and deadly but they don’t have that depraved “I’ll kill you if I get a chance!” attitude that my mates pitbull would give me just about every time I came to visit, despite knowing and interacting with him for years. That’s what made me very weary around pitbulls, how they switch the extreme aggression on and off, no amount of prior history would change that, every first meeting the dog acted like it wanted to kill me, it was ok after that but it’s just weird, it’s the only breed I’ve experienced that with. Other breeds once you are introduced and you make friends it’s mates for life.

 

[wingnut771]

I grew up with Doberman’s and they were totally awesome, never once did I feel threatened by them, though they made people sht themselves when they walked onto the property unannounced, that was always funny to watch.

They have very menacing looks and they can stand rather tall, they aren’t stocky but in good condition they will be ripped af and very nimble, looking at one you will have absolutely no doubt that they can rip you to shreds in a heartbeat if things go south.

Very powerful dogs and deadly but they don’t have that depraved “I’ll kill you if I get a chance!” attitude that my mates pitbull would give me just about every time I came to visit, despite knowing and interacting with him for years. That’s what made me very weary around pitbulls, how they switch the extreme aggression on and off, no amount of prior history would change that, every first meeting the dog acted like it wanted to kill me, it was ok after that but it’s just weird, it’s the only breed I’ve experienced that with. Other breeds once you are introduced and you make friends it’s mates for life.

I'm sure if you grew up with pitbulls and your friend had dobermans, you would say the exact same thing with the breeds reversed.

In all seriousness, Dobermans are awesome. So are Pitbulls.