Momentum One Day Cup 2014/15

[MickeyD]

FIXTURES

October 2014

10 - Titans v Dolphins (Centurion) - 15h00
11 - Knights v Cape Cobras (Kimberley) - 10h00
12 - Lions v Warriors (Potchefstroom) - 10h00
15 - Dolphins v Lions (Durban) - 15h00
17 - Warriors v Cape Cobras (Port Elizabeth) - 15h00
17 - Knights v Dolphins (Bloemfontein) - 15h00
17 - Lions v Titans (Johannesburg) - 15h00
19 - Cape Cobras v Lions (Paarl) - 10h00
19 - Dolphins v Warriors (Pietermaritzburg) - 10h00
19 - Titans v Knights (Benoni) - 10h00
22 - Cape Cobras v Knights (Cape Town) - 15h00
24 - Warriors v Knights (East London) - 15h00
24 - Lions v Dolphins (Potchefstroom) - 15h00
24 - Titans v Cape Cobras (Centurion) - 15h00
26 - Warriors v Titans (Port Elizabeth) - 10h00
26 - Dolphins v Cape Cobras (Durban) - 10h00
26 - Knights v Lions (Bloemfontein) - 10h00

January 2015

23 - Knights v Titans (Kimberley) - 15h00
24 - Lions v Cape Cobras (Johannesburg) - 15h00
30 - Cape Cobras v Titans (Cape Town) - 15h00
30 - Warriors v Dolphins (Port Elizabeth) - 15h00
30 - Lions v Knights (Johannesburg) - 15h00

February 2015

1 - Cape Cobras v Warriors (Paarl) - 10h00
1 - Dolphins v Knights (Pietermaritzburg) - 10h00
1 - Titans v Lions (Benoni) - 10h00
4 - Knights v Warriors (Bloemfontein) - 15h00
6 - Cape Cobras v Dolphins (Cape Town) - 15h00
6 - Titans v Warriors (Centurion) - 15h00
8 - Warriors v Lions (East London) - 10h00
8 - Dolphins v Titans (Durban) - 10h00
11 - SEMI-FINAL: Qualifier 2nd v Qualifier 3rd (TBA) - 15h00
15 - FINAL: Qualifier 1st v Qualifier 2/3 (TBA) - 10h00

 

[MickeyD]

THE LOG

Pos. Team. Played. Points

1. Nashua Cape Cobras : 6 - 21
2. Sunfoil Dolphins : 6 - 16
3. bizhub Highveld Lions : 6 - 15
4. The Unlimited Titans : 5 - 9
5. Chevrolet Knights : 6 - 8
6. Chevrolet Warriors : 5 - 4

 

[bwana]

There's a lot of cricket being played between now and the end of November.

 

[NeonNinja]

Titans 33/1 (7.3 ov) vs Dolphins

 

[NeonNinja]

Looking forward to Phehlukwayo's knock! Ominous young (18) boy, reminds me of QdK.

 

[MickeyD]

Titans 69-2 (12 overs)

 

[ZCFOutkast]

I see this one will cater for the Momentum One Day Cup even though MickeyD got lost and forgot relevant thread he personally created...

Titans will get a monster total. 330+ is the minimum from here on in. There's no one in the Dolphins lineup who gives me confidence that they can chase it down.

1. Quite a few things stick out. Milelr&Rossouw shouldn't be in the Proteas setup ahead Farhaan. He's never got successive games while failing the same as Faf, QdK&Miller, plus I have no doubt he has enough class to be a permanent first XI pick, and would've ben if he was treated the same as the rest.

2. It's absolutely embarassing that a few months before the WC we have a proven seamer of class&experience and is arguably the best ODI bowler we have even when unfit - Lowabo Tsotsobe, yet Abbott&Parnell are in the squad not him. Combined they will never take more wickets together in any series than Tsotsobe.

3. CSA desperately need to get their act together. Miller has failed to prove he can finish, while Rossouw has been unconvincing. With JP underwhelming as well, it's very clear that we're set to go into another WC without a solid middle order. Bowlers who can bat are important, but Philander, McLaren & Parnell is an overkill. The latter two were smashed, even by Zimbabwe. Only Philander can make the grade. Surely it made more sense to throw in an impact bowler Merchant and not consign him to T20s. I'd like to think there room to gamble on Alfonso Thomas as well. He's certainly a better bet in AUS&NZ WC contitions, than WP, KA&RM.

I hope the Momentum ODI Cup proves the following made sense for the NZ tour:
Farhaan for Rossouw
Tsotsobe, Thomas& Marchant for Abbott, McLaren&Parnell

 

[MickeyD]

I see this one will cater for the Momentum One Day Cup even though MickeyD got lost and forgot relevant thread he personally created...

I have?

 

[ZCFOutkast]

If there's one thing you can't fault Heino Kuhn&Morne van Wyk for, it's that they've tried everything to get into the Proteas (Dane Vilas&Davy Jacobs to a lesser extent). What's most impressive is their desire to bat up the order and even open. One of them would've been good enough to play for the Proteas. CSA messed this one up big time because of politics.

Debate will continue regarding Tsolekile but they should've allowed him to play for the side instead of persisting with a very poor Mark Boucher longer than was necessary. That way he would've been proven to be good enough or not, which I believe he was good enough. But this negative attitude form CSA&fans unfortunately meant Boucher continued, or AB underused batting lower, yet when one thinks about it there were potentially 5 world class bats affected byt his impasse. The end result is an AB who will be a hit or miss due to match situations, plus a young QdK opening - who I think has been easily found out now judging from the last tour in Zimbabwe.

Kindly refer to this comment when AB&QdK have a poor WC. I've already mentioned Miller&McLaren above who are certainties for the XI as well.

This by the way, is how we should setup to bring the cup home. You don't have to pay thousands of Rands to a psychiatrist to know that if Tahir starts he might be carrying drinks for the rest of the tournament after Raina&Co are done with him in the second match.
Amla, AB(c), Faf, JP, Farhaan, QdK(wK), Philander, Steyn, Morkel, Tsotsobe, Phangiso

 

[ZCFOutkast]

I have?

Yes, right here.

But I guess we can blame Chrome for that. It must be that dodgy browser that he's using.

 

[NeonNinja]

340/6. Very competitive score.

Berhadien 105* (67).

 

[ZCFOutkast]

Yes it's a very competitive score. Tough ask for the Dolphins. Ihope to see Zondo bats 4 or 3 if they get a safe start. Felt they shot themselvs in the foot moving him down in the CLT20 thinking he was slow, and they only got worse because of that decision. They can bat around him in List A cricket.

Excellent from young Theunis de Bruyn (don;t know much about him), Farhaan and the ever improving Mosehle.

I think CSA should seriously consider having regular fixtures liek the England Lions cricket side.

Youngsters like Rassie, Van Zyl, Bavuma, Rossouw, Mosehle&Reeza plus this new guy Theunis may all reach late 20s without ever having a decent run o finternationals, considering the likes of Ab&Faf will bat into their mid-late 30s.

There's little left for Farhaan, Ingram etc to prove in domestic cricket. Should really be touring half the time and that A side should be playing the likes of Zim, Ire, Afg, Ned&BD in full ODIs in between A games against the other Full Members. No wonder Ingram flopped. Because of poor management from CSA, it won't be surprising to see Van Zyl becoming a Stephen Cook and never having conquered international cricket. Don't tell me QdK was asked to swim in the deepend and he didn't sink, they should to because I dont remember other players being shown the patience of 20 odd continuos innings.

 

[MickeyD]

340/6. Very competitive score.

Berhadien 105* (67).

Rain hence D/L score adjustment to 301 off 42 overs.

Dolphins 301-5 off 41.1 overseas.
Morne van Wyk 121*

 

[ZCFOutkast]

Rain hence D/L score adjustment to 301 off 42 overs.

Dolphins 301-5 off 41.1 overs
Morne van Wyk 121*

Excellent batting from Morne van Wyk. That's what you call a captain's knock. In hindsight Titans were well below the par score then. You'd have thought after rain with Marchant&Mbhalati in your side you can defend 301 in 42 overs, so questions must be asked about the nature of the pitch.

Zondi striking at better than everyone else on display that day, as well as effectively winning the match for the Dolphins, begs the question why others were consistently promoted above him in the order despite the fact the he had batted well in his first game. Perhaps Zulu is right that Miller should be batting much higher for the Proteas in T20s, but there's no cricketing reason for his handling of Zondi. I doubt very much he would handle another person that way.

Anyway over to the Knights&Cobras.

 

[MickeyD]

Zondi striking at better than everyone else on display that day, as well as effectively winning the match for the Dolphins, begs the question why others were consistently promoted above him in the order despite the fact the he had batted well in his first game. Perhaps Zulu is right that Miller should be batting much higher for the Proteas in T20s, but there's no cricketing reason for his handling of Zondi. I doubt very much he would handle another person that way.

This rubbish cannot be left unchallenged.

Did you watch the whole match? At least 3 of Zondi's boundaries were fat edges that either went over the keeper's head or through the vacant slip area - NOT where he intended to place the ball. So to say he was striking better is only true in terms of strike rate. Morne van Wyk won the game for the Dolphins, not him.

And what's wrong with batting at #6? It is one of the key positions in a one day side, which shows that Zulu trusts his abilities and has faith in him to close out games.

Get real.

 

[ZCFOutkast]

This rubbish cannot be left unchallenged.

Did you watch the whole match? At least 3 of Zondi's boundaries were fat edges that either went over the keeper's head or through the vacant slip area - NOT where he intended to place the ball. So to say he was striking better is only true in terms of strike rate. Morne van Wyk won the game for the Dolphins, not him.

And what's wrong with batting at #6? It is one of the key positions in a one day side, which shows that Zulu trusts his abilities and has faith in him to close out games.

Get real.

Stats don't lie. Zondo dominated his partnership with van Wyk, scoring 32 of the 56 runs. No doubt MvW did the hard yards, but Zondo got them to the line when they otherwise wouldn't have.

In future kindly pay attention to the context and word your challenges accordingly. My argument streches from the CLT20. Several times Zondo was dropped down the order - 5,6,6,5 - while those above him consistently took turns to fail. All of it under the impression that he's not a big hitter plus he mis-hits just as you've alluded to in your post.

The bottom line is he should be batting 3/4 for the Dolphins because he needs time to pace his innings as MvW did. Even in the CLT20 he was still more effective than the so-called aggressive bats, despite being dropped lower. Zulu is messing him around. Zondi is not your Bevan/Hussey type ODI finisher. He's your anchor-type player from much higher like what they're trying to do with Faf.

The suitable finishers are those batting higher than him and failing, while Frylinck is forced to often do their job. Zulu is misusing players so there's no reason to punt him to replace Domingo who is just as bad.

 

[MickeyD]

Stats don't lie. Zondo dominated his partnership with van Wyk, scoring 32 of the 56 runs. No doubt MvW did the hard yards, but Zondo got them to the line when they otherwise wouldn't have.

In future kindly pay attention to the context and word your challenges accordingly. My argument streches from the CLT20. Several times Zondo was dropped down the order - 5,6,6,5 - while those above him consistently took turns to fail. All of it under the impression that he's not a big hitter plus he mis-hits just as you've alluded to in your post.

The bottom line is he should be batting 3/4 for the Dolphins because he needs time to pace his innings as MvW did. Even in the CLT20 he was still more effective than the so-called aggressive bats, despite being dropped lower. Zulu is messing him around. Zondi is not your Bevan/Hussey type ODI finisher. He's your anchor-type player from much higher like what they're trying to do with Faf.

The suitable finishers are those batting higher than him and failing, while Frylinck is forced to often do their job. Zulu is misusing players so there's no reason to punt him to replace Domingo who is just as bad.

This is the 50 over competition not the T20 version.

Did you watch the Dolphins innings last night?

 

[Stefanmuller]

I actually feel quite sorry for Morne van Wyk. Such a good player who was actually a perfect fit as opener and keeper and ODI captain (even for tests). Good all round cricketer and reads the game well and a good mature leader. Plus he is a genuinely super nice guy. His age always counted against him, when he was a younger player guys like Boucher were still there and when him and Gibbs were past their best Morne seemed like a good fit but was seen as "too old". But he keeps ons scoring and playing well.

Australia have a different selection process where they often select older players as long as they perform and are in form regardless of age. He is like a Haddin only he can open and captain.

 

[MickeyD]

Knights v Cape Cobras

Knights 162 all out (41 overs)

R Roussouw 57

Kleinveldt 3/28
Khan 4/38

 

[NeonNinja]

Poor stuff. Well, what do you expect from Kimberly? Have been decent scores though.