Monsanto Seed Co.

nightjar

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Monsanto is seriously bad news. The company is referred to by American farmers as the Mafia or Gestapo and seems to have similar morals.

It specializes in genetically modified seed and ties farmers into incredibly one-sided contracts which are absolutely water tight.

Monsanto also employs spies and anonymous phone numbers encouraging people to report farmers for possible infringement of patent rights. The spies sneak onto private property and secretly take seed samples in the hope of putting old style farmers out of business.

I recall a number of court cases over the years where wind or natural cross pollination has contaminated the fields of farmers growing normal crops. Monsanto then attacked the farmers in court and, with their financial muscle, usually broke them. The American law seem to be very unfair and small or ordinary individuals have no chance against big corporations.
 

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Is there anything that can be done? From what I have read the wild corn in the Mexican mountains is even showing up with Monsanto genes......wtf? They gonna sue mother nature next? Or put her out of business too. My instinct says petrol bomb, my brain is arguing at the moment against that. But seriously can't we start a petition or something to block that seed from being sold in this country? Germany has.....

I'm spitting blood I'm so upset, I knew what they were doing in the states I was just oblivious to their underhanded dealings in my own back yard.

It's sick and dangerous. Monsanto is the company that tested Monsanto seed with regards to the health issues they may cause. The test were short term and they found the seeds to be A-OK. Wow, I'm sure they were objective in those tests.......
 

Nothxkbi

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This is not the first time this has happened. In the late 80's early 90's New Zealand had a similiar problem with genetically modified crops. I'll do a little research on it and get some links. Nearly the entire farming community was over-run by the corporate scumholes.
 

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Is there anything that can be done? From what I have read the wild corn in the Mexican mountains is even showing up with Monsanto genes......wtf? They gonna sue mother nature next? Or put her out of business too. My instinct says petrol bomb, my brain is arguing at the moment against that. But seriously can't we start a petition or something to block that seed from being sold in this country? Germany has.....

I'm spitting blood I'm so upset, I knew what they were doing in the states I was just oblivious to their underhanded dealings in my own back yard.

It's sick and dangerous. Monsanto is the company that tested Monsanto seed with regards to the health issues they may cause. The test were short term and they found the seeds to be A-OK. Wow, I'm sure they were objective in those tests.......

I'd love Monsanto seeds to be banned in this country. That would make my year
 

msmoorad

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its highly possible that they have a strong foothold in SA as many people in power nowadays are not too well read or clued up about whats really going on. they would be easily impressed by Monsantos claims of guaranteed crops/harvest and insect/pest proof crops etc...
maybe im reading too many conspiracy theory forums, but thats my opinion.
 

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The United States Supreme Court is scheduled to hear oral arguments on April 27th on a case involving genetically engineered alfalfa. But the case could have much larger ramifications – for Monsanto and for farmers across the country.

Known as Monsanto Co. v. Geertson Seed Farms, the case addresses the concern – by farmers and environmentalists alike – that genetically modified alfalfa can cross-contaminate non-GE alfalfa, an issue already evidenced with GE corn. The cross contamination makes these crops non-compliant with federal standards and eliminates the
export of conventional or organic alfalfa to the many countries that
forbid GE alfalfa.
(AP Photo/Greenpeace,Melvyn Calderon,HO)

(AP Photo/Greenpeace,Melvyn Calderon,HO)

This is just the latest court challenge to Monsanto’s genetically modified seed program. In June 2009, the court upheld an earlier ruling that there had been a violation of the National Environmental Policy Act. They then required USDA to do a full Environmental Impact Statement (which had never been completed for any GE crop). The court also upheld an injunction that had been in place since March 2007 that precludes further planting of GE alfalfa until the EIS is finalized.

The Supreme Court agreed in January, to hear the case after Monsanto and others again challenged the injunction in October 2009 (but not the EIS requirement).

There’s a lot at stake here. The Court could narrow the focus of the case strictly to the GE alfalfa. Or it could broaden it to consider other GE crops. THAT could open up a large can of worms.
Use of Monsanto's genetically-modified alfalfa could make organic milk hard to find

Use of Monsanto's genetically-modified alfalfa could make organic milk hard to find

Consider this. Here’s where we stand with already-planted GE crops in the US, according to Monsanto’s petition to the Supreme Court:

* 91% of all soybeans)
* more than 90% of sugar beets
* 88% of cotton
* 85% of all US corn

Only 1% of US alfalfa is genetically modified, but overall it’s the fourth largest crop (behind corn, wheat, and soybeans).

Then there’s a growing body of science that’s finding health and environmental problems linked with GE foods and
some of the products used with them, such as pesticides.

Looking at the larger picture, if the Court were to agree to the larger prespective of the case, AND if they ruled against Monsanto, this would create a passle of issues and future lawsuits comparable perhaps only to the long-tangled web of tobacco industry lawsuits.

It will be interesting to see how the Court takes on this thorny issue and what they direction they finally rule.
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kilobits

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Yeek !

With the acquisition of seed companies in South Africa a few years ago, Monsanto had a maize market share of less than 20 % in the seed sector. Now, with the support of modern facilities and research globally, and with new products well adapted for South African circumstances and for different production areas, the company has increase its maize market share to about 50 %.

http://www.monsanto.co.za/en/layout/about_us/default.asp

and grrrr...

Any party initiating litigation should be aware of the real risk of a costs order against them should they not prevail in the litigation. Costs in these proceedings are a matter for the courts and Monsanto will naturally abide by court decision.
 
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nightjar

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its highly possible that they have a strong foothold in SA as many people in power nowadays are not too well read or clued up about whats really going on. they would be easily impressed by Monsantos claims of guaranteed crops/harvest and insect/pest proof crops etc...
maybe im reading too many conspiracy theory forums, but thats my opinion.

I actually think that they would be more impressed by the possibility of handouts from Monsanto's petty cash.

Monsanto seed is sterile and new stock must be purchased each season. When I read about the massive exports of opium by the Taliban I often wonder why the USA has not employed genetically modified seed to contaminate the poppy fields and wipe them out. Within a few seasons the problem would be gone.
 

Greycat16

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Much better use of GM seed I agree. I like that concept. But it could be too much of a good income for some people that are pretty high in that game...And it is still one of our main suppliers of morphine which is used in combat. I know that the Taliban does not grow medicinal poppy of any kind, the evidence shows that Monsanto can't control the spread of their own pollen into the environment. This would cause the destruction of an entire spices and could lead to some very dangerous environmental issues.

Although I am not a fan of illicit production of controlled pain killers, I would be sad to see no poppy's in the neighbors garden and have to describe them to my grandkids one day.

But really, a nice idea....
 

Greycat16

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There has not been any long term tests as to effect of GM seed on the population of us or any other species. In the last few years GM seed has taken over completely. The last thing GM seed Co. want you to think is that they have opened Pandora's Box and have no idea on how to reverse any of the effects should they be negative.

All we can do is hope and pray that not all GM seed is bad......
 

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There has not been any long term tests as to effect of GM seed on the population of us or any other species. In the last few years GM seed has taken over completely. The last thing GM seed Co. want you to think is that they have opened Pandora's Box and have no idea on how to reverse any of the effects should they be negative.

All we can do is hope and pray that not all GM seed is bad......

GM see has _not_ taken over. We have many farms and not one of them need GM seed. Right now your distrust for GM seed is based on hysteria.
 

Greycat16

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My hysteria is based on that kind of thinking. My mistrust lies in poorly tested products like the Zeppelin. Only this is a bit bigger and long term..
 
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