Monthly savings from switching from a Kia Sonet 1.5 LX CVT to a demo 2023 GWM Ora 03 GT

[The Trutherizer]

So he either put in a lot of effort into finding this bargain. Or he just got lucky.

Either way, buying second hand doesn't scale.

The electric car wave hasn't hit SA yet.

Which is a good thing because Eskom can't handle it.

Doesn't make it any less worth looking out for. For those who might be so inclined. I mean... Saving a thousands bucks or so a month. Better performing car. Newer car. That's yummy.

Nor does it preclude hope for a better situation in the future. It is entirely possible as an eventuality. Eskom (single company) is a bit of a misnomer. Though the parts it has been split into still fall under a "Eskom" umbrella; They are separate entities now. The challenge is not equally great for each of these divisions individually.

 

[Fuzzbox]

Perhaps one should also question a vehicle listed for over 800k is selling for almost half of it listed price.
Driving out the showroom just cost you just under 400k.
Also a bad investment

It also looks like a Potato

 

[falcon786]

If you only do short trips then EV might make a lot of sense, as would owning one of each if you have the disposable income. For me personally Ev is far to expensive to be a viable solution as I simply travel far to much and don't have the luxury of the downtime needed to fully recharge the battery again.

This is the most balanced response I've seen here,we are a 2 car household, wife using the EV predominantly and my ICE daily driver car we use for extreme long distance like a 5500KM's we did over December which included places out in the sticks like transkei.

But for Gauteng,trips to durban,kruger,warm baths etc etc we just go with the EV it's way better than the ICE.

I'll always have a soft spot for ICE sports cars though and perhaps for proper offroading ICE has the advantage in the bundus with availability of chargers currently being a concern there.

EV excels in local daily commutes and long distance along main highways only currently.

 

[falcon786]

So? They could have bought a used Kia also for half the price. If you want to make comparisons, your should take the extra you pay for the EV into account too, also extra interest, insurance( which I guess is much higher on Ev) etc.

I have an ix3 the insurance on the same model x3 20d is maybe R20 difference.

That's the problem with guessing.Also you save a **** load on maintenance.The difference in driving comfort,noise and response between the 2 is stark,I took the ix3 for it's 2/3 year interval "service" last year (where they just changed basic things like brake fluid,cabin air filter and wipers.) and they loaned me a brand new 1000km x3 2.0d for the day,the difference in refinement and driving pleasure took me by surprise, there's a much bigger gap than I expected. EV is just vastly superior as a daily or long distance driver,so much so that I don't think I'll ever go back our primary vehicle not being electric in future.

 

[falcon786]

Also the additional tyre wear myth has been disproven to me personally, I got 65000km out of the rear factory fitted yokohama tyres before needing to change them. Front tyres probably still have another 10 to 20k life left in them.

IX3 is rear wheel drive so that aspect makes sense. Also I don't drive like I'm driving miss daisy so they were definitely not pampered or anything.

 

[Hanno Labuschagne]

Perhaps one should also question a vehicle listed for over 800k is selling for almost half of it listed price.
Driving out the showroom just cost you just under 400k.
Also a bad investment

It also looks like a Potato

Math not be mathing. We didn't buy it for R835,000, so the depreciation didn't happen after that. So no, we didn't instantly lose R400,000.

Secondly, pretty much no generally available cars can be considered investments. Cars are tools and lose a lot of value the moment they are driven off the showroom floor, regardless of brand.

That is why buying a used car with a good service history and no major accidents is miles better than going new.

The reasons all these models are now so cheap are:
1. They were too expensive to begin with and uncompetitive with the BYD Dolphin.
2. Many EVs have heavy depreciation because South Africans are inexplicably perplexed and critical of EVs without ever having driven one. There are BMW iX3s selling for R600,000 less with only a few thousand kilometres clocked.
3. Some were specifically in GWM's own fleet for media and PR and are being cleared to make way for new year models.

Yes, GWM is not yet up there with VW and Toyota on parts, but it has five years on its mechanical warranty and six years on its battery warranty remaining, so I'm comfortable with the risk in this department.

I am also betting buying a GWM EV over a GWM petrol car is better due to the lower maintenance requirements.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

depreciation is an ouchie, yes this particular ORA funky/punk cat, was in the media fleet, so had journalists driving it daily,
was cleaned and kept in good condition,

but a normal average joe cant afford something like this, not to mention a similar Punk cat probably depreciates MORE than this,
and while its cool they bring EV's into SA, maybe as a lease it makes sense, as I wouldn't want to be stuck holding the bag for parts and repairs when its a few years old, battery had degraded a lot, and GWM leaves SA or something Cyril said about Taiwan.

EV's are coming, but right now with the electric situation in SA, who can afford things like this,
best people can hope for right now in the current climate is a used golden oldie, like a Tazz or a Polo,

if you lucky, a Getz, or something like a Jazz,

if you want to splurge you can buy a new Fake U v like a Haval or something similar ICE

nobody going to spend this type of money on a Cheap EV.