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Ponderer

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This is the reason I am for the Death Penalty.
A life sentence (in prison) as not a big enough deterrent.
Different story if you will be put to death.

And don't come with the BS "studies" that show the Death Penalty does not work.
It works.
You've got to be incredibly stupid to believe it (Death Penalty) doesn't work.
 

ToxicBunny

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This is the reason I am for the Death Penalty.
A life sentence (in prison) as not a big enough deterrent.
Different story if you will be put to death.

And don't come with the BS "studies" that show the Death Penalty does not work.
It works.
You've got to be incredibly stupid to believe it (Death Penalty) doesn't work.
No it doesn't work regardless of whatever backwards opinion you have.

But to humour you, how would a death penalty have stopped this person doing what he did?
 

mojoman

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This is the reason I am for the Death Penalty.
A life sentence (in prison) as not a big enough deterrent.
Different story if you will be put to death.

And don't come with the BS "studies" that show the Death Penalty does not work.
It works.
You've got to be incredibly stupid to believe it (Death Penalty) doesn't work.
Even if it is supposedly no deterrent to future and potential criminals. I fail to see why society should front the costs for jailtime etc once you have been found guilty of something like this...Remove them. We are quick to kill an animal if it bites and kills...Should do the same here.
 

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No it doesn't work regardless of whatever backwards opinion you have.
It absolutely works.
You are objectively stupid if you think it doesn't.
But to humour you, how would a death penalty have stopped this person doing what he did?
Well, for starters, he will definitely not do it again.
And others will think twice before doing it.

As a curtesy to your "condition", I will also phrase it in another way so as to assist you to understand.
The Death Penalty (forfeiting your life) serves as a much stronger deterrent than a Life Sentence.

If you still don't understand, please don't hesitate to ask me.
I'll try and help you.
 

ToxicBunny

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It absolutely works.
You are objectively stupid if you think it doesn't.

Well, for starters, he will definitely not do it again.
And others will think twice before doing it.

As a curtesy to your "condition", I will also phrase it in another way so as to assist you to understand.
The Death Penalty (forfeiting your life) serves as a much stronger deterrent than a Life Sentence.

If you still don't understand, please don't hesitate to ask me.
I'll try and help you.

Prove it works then.

You've made a bold claim so back it up with research that shows the Death Penalty works...
 

ToxicBunny

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Even if it is supposedly no deterrent to future and potential criminals. I fail to see why society should front the costs for jailtime etc once you have been found guilty of something like this...Remove them. We are quick to kill an animal if it bites and kills...Should do the same here.

So now that is an entirely different argument in my opinion, you aren't using the Death Penalty as a deterrent to other criminals but as a way of minimising the impact that an offender has on society financially.

**EDIT** Though on the financial aspect, I seem to remember seeing that the average Death Row prisoner costs considerably more than the average life sentence prisoner, so even the financial impact argument may not have legs.
 
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Prove it works then.

You've made a bold claim so back it up with research that shows the Death Penalty works...
It is with great sadness that I notice your "condition" is even worse than I initially suspected. :)
 
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This is the reason I am for the Death Penalty.
A life sentence (in prison) as not a big enough deterrent.
Different story if you will be put to death.

And don't come with the BS "studies" that show the Death Penalty does not work.
It works.
You've got to be incredibly stupid to believe it (Death Penalty) doesn't work.
I believe death penalty is needed, rapists, murderers, pedos, string em all up... but there is this massive problem. Its not whether the death penalty work or not, its who has power... anc for example, you really want these clown changing laws charging people willy nilly cos you flipped off zuma or 'offended' malema... yeah no better to just stay away from it
 

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So now that is an entirely different argument in my opinion, you aren't using the Death Penalty as a deterrent to other criminals but as a way of minimising the impact that an offender has on society financially.
Stops them doing it again thats for sure.:laugh:
 

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It is with great sadness that I notice that your "condition" is even worse than I initially suspected. :)

So then its just your backwards opinion that isn't actually backed up by any research at all...


For the record, and this might be difficult for you to grasp, I am personally 100% for the Death Penalty, but I am fully aware that it does nothing to reduce violent crimes like people think it does.
 

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I believe death penalty is needed, rapists, murderers, pedos, string em all up... but there is this massive problem. Its not whether the death penalty work or not, its who has power... anc for example, you really want these clown changing laws charging people willy nilly cos you flipped off zuma or 'offended' malema... yeah no better to just stay away from it
I'm not saying that the Death Penalty should be used for everything.
It should most certainly not be used for political purposes/differences.
 

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I'm not saying that the Death Penalty should be used for everything.
It should most certainly not be used for political purposes/differences.
I think we would see a reduction in our crime if we were able to eliminate the threat in our house/on our property
Break into my house..You may well die...My household 'death penalty'...
:laugh:
 

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I'm not saying that the Death Penalty should be used for everything.
It should most certainly not be used for political purposes/differences.
But if its available, thats what would happen.... this is a better option :giggle:
 

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I think we would see a reduction in our crime if we were able to eliminate the threat in our house/on our property
Break into my house..You may well die...My household 'death penalty'...
:laugh:

So a castle defense style of thing would probably make a difference, but I think it would initially cause a significant increase in the violence of those home invasion crimes.
 

mojoman

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So a castle defense style of thing would probably make a difference, but I think it would initially cause a significant increase in the violence of those home invasion crimes.
In a country drowning in crime I feel the only way forward is to fight fire with fire now..After being robbed numerous times I am pretty jaded on this but I fail to see why I, and all other law abiding citizens, have to live in fear..

SAPS is of zero use to anyone, anywhere, anytime...
 
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