More than a third of millennials polled approve of communism

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Lol wat? Dude you are delusional. Link drop or not, you are doing exactly what is stated in there. You are making an argument against what he said based on your assumption of the person's (Lenin) beliefs and thoughts. And now you want to challenge someone to prove a quote he posted. And the fact that you believe the proof should be that socialism= communism doesn't even make sense in the context of the quote. Your current deflection is so obvious and sad.
Pigeon chess. I never learn.
 

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Lol wat? Dude you are delusional. Link drop or not, you are doing exactly what is stated in there. You are making an argument against what he said based on your assumption of the person's (Lenin) beliefs and thoughts. And now you want to challenge someone to prove a quote he posted. And the fact that you believe the proof should be that socialism= communism doesn't even make sense in the context of the quote. Your current deflection is so obvious and sad.
Assumption of Lenins beliefs and thoughts? :laugh:

Yeah because we have no idea who he is and what he thought. Thanks for the laugh

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

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Assumption of Lenins beliefs and thoughts? :laugh:

Yeah because we have no idea who he is and what he thought. Thanks for the laugh

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Don't think you could do any better job of demonstrating your inability to comprehend the fact that your (albeit sarcastic) response is the epitome of appeal to motive(bias).

Maybe add a few more laugh emojis, I'm sure that will be the determining factor to sway me to your superior reasoning.
 

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Don't think you could do any better job of demonstrating your inability to comprehend the fact that your (sarcastic) response is the epitome of appeal to motive(bias).
Dont think you could do a better job of demonstrating your inability to comprehend the fact various forms socialism are not communism. The fact that a person thats communist thinks its purpose is to transition to communism is wholly irrelevant to someone who thinks its form has already come to a crescendo. I cant explain it in simpler terms to you, so if you want to carry on acting stupid then that's on you.
 

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Dont think you could do a better job of demonstrating your inability to comprehend the fact various forms socialism are not communism. The fact that a person thats communist thinks its purpose is to transition to communism is wholly irrelevant to someone who thinks its form has already come to a crescendo. I cant explain it in simpler terms to you, so if you want to carry on acting stupid then that's on you.
Nobody here has tried to argue or substantiate any of the points you keep regurgitating. A quote was posted. You tried to dismiss it, and in doing so were called out for appeal to bias in your attempt. Your sad straw man argument you have subsequently erected and then dismantled is so evident and pathetic. But keep on calling ME out for acting stupid.
 

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Nobody here has tried to argue or substantiate any of the points you keep regurgitating. A quote was posted. You tried to dismiss it, and in doing so were called out for appeal to bias in your attempt. Your sad straw man argument you have subsequently erected and then dismantled is so evident and pathetic. But keep on calling ME out for acting stupid.
Nah i actually asked what the quote has to do with my posts on socialism and communism being different because the quoted posts of mine were about just that.


Yeah, so what? That's in the eyes of a Marxist. He probably thought everything should lead to communism.
Which was then met with a random link dropped. So from that moment i have had to go on assumptions and counter trolling. If the person doesnt want to answer basic questions and just wants to drop links and quotes then you dont get to whine about strawmen.

The fact that you are defending this nonsense, does mean you are acting stupid.
 

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Nah, i will pass. I asked the first question, which you ignored and instead link dropped. So i will rather just engage in low energy link dropping like you.
Thought so.
I have been caught with my pants and will now just use the 'link drop' defense like a hammer and hope no one notices.
 

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Thought so.
I have been caught with my pants and will now just use the 'link drop' defense like a hammer and hope no one notices.
Yeah you didnt have to tell me, i knew you were doing that and have already pointed it out.
 

IT_Steven

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Yeah you didnt have to tell me, i knew you were doing that and have already pointed it out.
References to link dropping :
You : 5
Me : 1 (quoted - in reference to your attempt at constantly using it as a defense, bar your childish interpretation)

Links dropped :
You : 1
Me : 1

Yeah, the hammer reference really fits the second one - not even your playground taunts makes any sense.
 
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A system of Infinite Growth cannot exist in a World of finite Resources...

Capitalism is a flawed system... case study.. Japan... or any Western Country were population growth is dropping and is increasingly becoming dependant on migrants or cross border trade deals to maintain growth...
 
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A system of Infinite Growth cannot exist in a World of finite Resources...

Capitalism is a flawed system... case study.. Japan... or any Western Country were population growth is dropping and is increasingly becoming dependant on migrants or cross border trade deals to maintain growth...
Lmfty:
A system of Infinite Growth cannot exist in a World of finite Resources...

Usury is a flawed system... case study.. Current monetary system. Create debt ...charge interest... Debt cannot be settled...print more money to pay debt... Repeat rinse until it collapses. It takes about 70 years for usury to wreck a monetary system. Then it reboots and people do the same thing over because the top 2% of people know the rest are too stupid to catch on how flawed the system is.
 

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A system of Infinite Growth cannot exist in a World of finite Resources...

Capitalism is a flawed system... case study.. Japan... or any Western Country were population growth is dropping and is increasingly becoming dependant on migrants or cross border trade deals to maintain growth...
Capitalism isn't infinite growth, you don't understand what it is.
capitalism

noun

an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

and then why not? We don't have finite resources, we don't know what the limits are, if we get to mine asteroids then there is no limits.
 

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Lmfty:
A system of Infinite Growth cannot exist in a World of finite Resources...

Usury is a flawed system... case study.. Current monetary system. Create debt ...charge interest... Debt cannot be settled...print more money to pay debt... Repeat rinse until it collapses. It takes about 70 years for usury to wreck a monetary system. Then it reboots and people do the same thing over because the top 2% of people know the rest are too stupid to catch on how flawed the system is.
Debt defaults and write offs. Creditors took a haircut in Greece recently. And assets can outgrow the value of debt. Not all value is paper money. There's actually very little paper money(or digital) debt in relation to real wealth.

7-10 year and 70-100 years is just the regular credit cycle. What will wreck the system isn't usury but government pumping up zombie businesses and banks creating a unnecessary big bubble. There's a difference.
 

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What will wreck the system isn't usury but government pumping up zombie businesses
using credit

and banks creating a unnecessary big bubble
via reckless lending

which may very well come crashing down when the leverage is so high that even 0.1% interest becomes unreasonably high

and presto, that would fit the exact definition of usury, so it is not that different
kind of like the socialism vs communism debate here, the difference is so little that debating it really isn't worth the effort
 

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using credit


via reckless lending

which may very well come crashing down when the leverage is so high that even 0.1% interest becomes unreasonably high

and presto, that would fit the exact definition of usury, so it is not that different
kind of like the socialism vs communism debate here, the difference is so little that debating it really isn't worth the effort
Well they've fixed that. Nobody should have a problem to just roll debt forward at a -1% rate indefinitely until it's completely repaid.
 

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Why are you making silly misrepresentations? I never once made a statement about right or wrong, i only said that communism and socialism are different.
Same garage pie with a different flavour. It'll still give you cramps.

Socialists have this rhetoric they push that it's a polar opposite thing.
 

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A system of Infinite Growth cannot exist in a World of finite Resources...

Capitalism is a flawed system... case study.. Japan... or any Western Country were population growth is dropping and is increasingly becoming dependant on migrants or cross border trade deals to maintain growth...
That is the mathusian trap and it has been disproved time and time again. The resources trap is a red herring.

Most developed countries now have a service sector and they optimise their resources. This is where a capitalist system is adventageous. It uses prices as a means to know how to optimise the system.
 
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