Mpumalanga homeowner shoots dead two intruders armed with knives

[wingnut771]

Shot them. Bombed them. Whatever. I don't care tbh. As long as innocent people aren't hurt.

How do you see innocent people in "two intruders armed with knives"?

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

That the homeowner used excessive force.

How does it insinuate this ?
By mention of the knives ?

 

[ForceFate]

How do you see innocent people in "two intruders armed with knives"?

Dude, are you trolling or what?

 

[wingnut771]

Dude, are you trolling or what?

No, it sounds like you are.

 

[ForceFate]

How does it insinuate this ?
By mention of the knives ?

By mentioning they were shot while the intruders had knives. Maybe I've lost respect of local rags.

 

[ForceFate]

No, it sounds like you are?

Why would I call 2 knife carrying intruders innocent?

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

By mentioning they were shot while the intruders had knives. Maybe I've lost respect of local rags.

Depends on a few factors, knives are deadly.
If they were in the process of an unlawful attack or one was imminent, he is in the clear.
You should doubt all media using loaded headlines, this one may just be trying to convey that they were armed.

 

[ForceFate]

Depends on a few factors, knives are deadly.
If they were in the process of an unlawful attack or one was imminent, he is in the clear.
You should doubt all media using loaded headlines, this one may just be trying to convey that they were armed.

"Homeowner shoots dead 2 armed intruders"

 

[wingnut771]

Why would I call 2 knife carrying intruders innocent?

I don't know, you started it:

 

[ForceFate]

I don't know, you started it:
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Now, compare the headline to these 2. The intruders were armed with guns in both.

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

"Homeowner shoots dead 2 armed intruders"

Excessive force is your claim to prove.
Lawfully, even if they had two bricks or just wooden 2x4's.
The force would not be considered excessive if the attack was illegal and underway or imminent.
You would be better off arguing that killing 2 is excessive since, after shots went off, someone must have run.

 

[ForceFate]

Excessive force is your claim to prove.
Lawfully, even if they had two bricks or just wooden 2x4's.
The force would not be considered excessive if the attack was illegal and underway or imminent.
You would be better off arguing that killing 2 is excessive since, after shots went off, someone must have run.

I don't in any way suggest the homeowner used excessive force. In fact, I wouldn't care if he pulverised them with 100 atomic bombs and shot their remains towards the sun or nearest black hole.

 

[wingnut771]

Now, compare the headline to these 2. The intruders were armed with guns in both.
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I really don't know what you trying to get at.

 

[Howdy]

I don't in any way suggest the homeowner used excessive force. In fact, I wouldn't care if he pulverised them with 100 atomic bombs and shot their remains towards the sun or nearest black hole.

While I enjoy and agree with your sentiment here, I disagree on you seeing something wrong with the title. It's factual.

But, without aiming at you, perhaps it goes back to the misguided belief that somehow a knife is less dangerous than a firearm. Or by that same token, a rock/brick in the hands of a union member is somehow not lethal. Nor a Molotov cocktail in the hands of a miscreant. All that pseudo logic has nothing to do with reality. I invite anybody thinking a knife is not dangerous to encounter a stab in the lungs or hart, those thinking a bric/rock is nto to encounter a thrown brick to the head. If they survive, they''ll forever be cured of their misconceptions.

We both know better. So, if anything, the title is clear, commendable and sane for a change - quite refreshing.

 

[neoprema]

I like to think of a future where humans are not in law enforcement, it is all handled by machines with some form of intelligence. No bias, no racism, no bribery and guns can be removed from all civilians and non-combat or police units because you’ll have an effective, working force to maintain safety and order.
For now, we’re stuck with SAPS people…

 

[RiaX]

Two less to be robbing the rest of us...Great news...
And if you dont have a gun...Why not....?
You are responsible for your own safety...

Because this stupid government will put me in jail for protecting my property

 

[RiaX]

I stand to be corrected on this, but you have the right not to incriminate yourself, so why would they (the attacker) testify to anything?

They won't the prosecutor will take you on. Had a guy go in and out of court where he killed a mugger and shot him dead AFTER the mugger stabbed him in the chest fighting over his cellphone.

He almost lost the case the prosecution argued he didn't have to kill him and could've fended him of without ending the attackers life.

Poor guy was traumatized.

My 2c if you going to shoot make sure they die