mRNA Spike protein is very dangerous, it's cytotoxic - says INVENTOR of mRNA Technology

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Watch this video. One of the speakers is Dr Robert Malone, the INVENTOR of mRNA technology!

Spike protein is very dangerous, it's cytotoxic.


REUTERS FACT CHECK
JUNE 18, 20218:22 PMUPDATED 5 DAYS AGO

Fact Check-COVID-19 vaccines are not ‘cytotoxic’​

By Reuters Fact Check
4 MIN READ

Posts are sharing the false statement that the spike protein in COVID-19 vaccines is cytotoxic, suggesting that it kills or damages cells. There is no evidence to support this.
Examples of the posts can be seen here and here .
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The text in the posts read: “THE FDA WAS ALERTED MONTHS AGO THAT THE SPIKE PROTEIN IN THE COVID VACCINES ARE CYTOTOXIC. CYTOTOXIC: TOXIC TO CELLS. THE FDA DID NOTHING AND STILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO CONTINUE BEING INJECTED WITH A CYTOTOXIC SUBSTANCE. FACT CHECK THAT!!!”
One post (here) links to a YouTube video (here) with the caption: “Spike protein is very dangerous, it’s cytotoxic (Robert Malone, Steve Kirsch, Bret Weinstein).”
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The 15-minute video shows three individuals discussing the COVID-19 vaccine and the spike protein is repeatedly described as “very dangerous” and “cytotoxic.”
Reuters Fact Check previously debunked a similar claim (here) that spike proteins created in response to mRNA vaccines are harmful or toxic to the body.
“So far, there is no scientific evidence available that suggests spike proteins created in our bodies from the COVID-19 vaccines are toxic or damaging our organs,” experts at the Meedan Digital Health Lab (meedan.com/digital-health-lab) said. (here)
Research shows that spike proteins (here) remain stuck to the cell surface around the injection site and do not travel to other parts of the body via the bloodstream, they added. The 1% of the vaccine that does reach the bloodstream is destroyed by liver enzymes.
Pharmacologist Sabina Vohra-Miller (www.vohramillerfoundation.ca/) produced a Twitter infographic explaining how spike proteins from the vaccine are harmless (here).


Anna Durbin, Professor of International Health at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told Reuters via email that the spike itself is not cytotoxic.
“When you are vaccinated, your cells use the mRNA (or DNA from adenovirus vector) to make spike protein in your cells. Your cells “show” your immune system the spike protein and pieces of the spike protein. The spike protein does not kill those cells, it is not cytotoxic,” Durbin explained.
The T cells, which make up a part of the immune system, then see the spike protein and remember it so that if there is exposure to the virus later, they can recognize it and kill the infected cells, Durbin said.

VERDICT​

False. There is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are cytotoxic (toxic to cells).
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work  here  .
Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.
 

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@cobussc Did you see this part:

So far, there is no scientific evidence available that suggests spike proteins created in our bodies from the COVID-19 vaccines are toxic or damaging our organs.”

"So far", so in fact they just don't know is the truth.

COVID-19 vaccines are relatively new and long-term side effects are yet to be known.

Interesting, they don't know the long term effects but in the same breath they say they are safe...... that makes no sense.

One of the guys saying this is the inventor of mRNA technology, I might put a little worth in what he is saying.
 

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“So far, there is no scientific evidence available that suggests spike proteins created in our bodies from the COVID-19 vaccines are toxic or damaging our "..........
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Here's an actual study that proves the spike protein on it's own is cytotoxic:

THE NOVEL CORONAVIRUS’ SPIKE PROTEIN PLAYS ADDITIONAL KEY ROLE IN ILLNESS


"In the new study, the researchers created a “pseudovirus” that was surrounded by SARS-CoV-2 classic crown of spike proteins, but did not contain any actual virus. Exposure to this pseudovirus resulted in damage to the lungs and arteries of an animal model—proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease. Tissue samples showed inflammation in endothelial cells lining the pulmonary artery walls.

The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented.

Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own.

If you remove the replicating capabilities of the virus, it still has a major damaging effect on the vascular cells, simply by virtue of its ability to bind to this ACE2 receptor, the S protein receptor, now famous thanks to COVID,” Manor explains. “Further studies with mutant spike proteins will also provide new insight towards the infectivity and severity of mutant SARS CoV-2 viruses.”"
 

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@cobussc Did you see this part:



"So far", so in fact they just don't know is the truth.



Interesting, they don't know the long term effects but in the same breath they say they are safe...... that makes no sense.

One of the guys saying this is the inventor of mRNA technology, I might put a little worth in what he is saying.
Saw that, valid point. However, Malone's claim to be the inventor is controversial, to say the least. Many contributors along the way. Among the first: our own Germiston-born boykie: Brenner conceived of the concept of messenger RNA during an April 1960 conversation with Francis Crick and François Jacob, and together with Jacob and Matthew Meselson went on to prove its existence later that summer.[33] (Wikipedia)
 

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Watch this video. One of the speakers is Dr Robert Malone, the INVENTOR of mRNA technology!

Spike protein is very dangerous, it's cytotoxic.


Invented it, but he actually create the vaccines using it and the research and brains behind it and did he run the hundreds of thousands of trials? Of which i dont see dead patients or ones with severe side-effects?

Hit me with an mRNA vaccine anytime. I'm more than happy.
 

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Saw that, valid point. However, Malone's claim to be the inventor is controversial, to say the least. Many contributors along the way. Among the first: our own Germiston-born boykie: Brenner conceived of the concept of messenger RNA during an April 1960 conversation with Francis Crick and François Jacob, and together with Jacob and Matthew Meselson went on to prove its existence later that summer.[33] (Wikipedia)

Invented it, but he actually create the vaccines using it and the research and brains behind it and did he run the hundreds of thousands of trials? Of which i dont see dead patients or ones with severe side-effects?

Hit me with an mRNA vaccine anytime. I'm more than happy.

See post #7.
More than happy hey, not very smart seeing as no successful mRNA vaccines had been produced prior to 2020, all ended in failed experiments, sometimes with dead lab animals. More than happy indeed.
 

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Spike protein is very dangerous, it's cytotoxic.
The spike protein produced by the mRNA vaccines sits on the surface of lymphatic and muscle cells and is not free or released to interact with ACE2 receptors as they're not dumped into your circulation. Also, as the mRNA is used up to create the Spike proteins you lose the ability to generate more hence all that remains is spike protein antibodies which will have decimated any spike proteins generated.
 

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And Facebook recently shut down a group that reported on the side effects of vaccines. It had 200,000 members.

The media is shutting down any voices that might show issues with vaccines which is highly dangerous to the whole human race.

If voices are silenced just because they have critical views of vaccines, how will we know if actual issues do arise putting millions of lives at risk and the voices just get silenced.

What social media and mainstream media is doing is highly irresponsible and dangerous.
 

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@cobussc Did you see this part:



"So far", so in fact they just don't know is the truth.



Interesting, they don't know the long term effects but in the same breath they say they are safe...... that makes no sense.

One of the guys saying this is the inventor of mRNA technology, I might put a little worth in what he is saying.

"So far".

Almost all science is "so far". In fact, I am skeptical of anyone who proclaims anything with absolute certainty.

Scientists make all their studies, with all the details of how they performed those studies available so that others can find fault with them. So that others can find contradicting results, so that ultimately they can find out if and where they were wrong.
You will see vaccines are claimed to give you immunity for 9 months or a year or something, precisely because that is how long they have evidence for. They expect it to last longer, but they aren't like the charlatans who claim that something is a miracle drug that performs wonders.

Another part of "so far" is acknowledging that they only know what they know. According to all their knowledge, there is no way that they can think that it would damage organs. According to their trials, there has been no indication that it damages organs.
Anyone who would claim that any medicine, 1 year after it was first used, is 100% sure to not have negative effects, and will work for all variants of the disease, is not trustworthy.

"So far" is a good thing.
 

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Almost all science is "so far". In fact, I am skeptical of anyone who proclaims anything with absolute certainty.
Spot on correct. True Scientists are always sceptical, even of their own work. They accept that there is always a chance that something is going to come along and change their theories and findings.

That means that even the developers of these vaccines MUST be open to ANY suggestions that their conclusions about the vaccines are open to being challenged and that ALL challenges MUST be investigated and no one should write any of it off before it is evaluated.
Another part of "so far" is acknowledging that they only know what they know. According to all their knowledge, there is no way that they can think that it would damage organs. According to their trials, there has been no indication that it damages organs.
But until someone that participated in a trial dies and an autopsy is done, they will not know about damaged organs.
We have yet to find a way to examine for organ damage without killing the patient. And besides, do you know of ANY triallists that have been asked to subject themselves to tiny samples of their organs being taken to check for damage???
So, as you say, they can only know what they know.
 
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So a whole lot of people who cannot get a vaccine anyway, are complaining about them? Why?

Just sit back and watch how it unfolds globally and then make a decision. or are people just wanting to create conspiracies for no reason? Wish my dad had a chance to get any one of these vaccines, he may still be alive today.
 

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But until someone that participated in a trial dies and an autopsy is done, they will not know about damaged organs.
We have yet to find a way to examine for organ damage without killing the patient. And besides, do you know of ANY triallists that have been asked to subject themselves to tiny samples of their organs being taken to check for damage???
So, as you say, they can only know what they know.
Most of the clinical trial subjects usually undergo defined screening and physical examination on numerous occasions including tests related to organ function and general health for extended periods. If there are any abnormalities then further investigation including scans / biopsy etc is common.

Furthermore, there are plenty of doctors who have patients of varying health who have been vaccinated and are routinely monitored for their existing conditions and any adverse events or changes.
 
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