mRNA Spike protein is very dangerous, it's cytotoxic - says INVENTOR of mRNA Technology

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Swa

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If true, devastating.

Doctor: Heart Failure From MRNA Jabs “Will Kill Most People”


Dr Charles Hoffe MD, in his latest update of July 6, 2021 is reporting on the disturbing findings in his patients. He says the mRNA vaccines are plugging up thousands of tiny capillaries in the blood of those who took the ‘vaccine.’ Most will die in a few short years from heart failure.

The spike proteins injected, which are designed to be mass produced in the bodies of the vaccinated, are the cause of the clotting, which is having adverse effects on no fewer than 60 percent of people injected.

Dr Hoffe continues:

“So it is absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form because your blood platelets circulate round your blood vessels, and the purpose of blood platelets is to identify damaged vessels and stop bleeding. So, when the platelet comes through the capillary it suddenly hits all these COVID spikes and it becomes absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form to block that vessel.”

Therefore, these spike proteins can predictably cause blood clots. They are in your blood vessels (if mRNA ‘vaccinated’) so it is guaranteed. Dr Bahrdi then said to me that the way to prove this is to do a blood test called a D-dimer blood test.

“The blood clots we hear about which the media claim are very rare are the big blood clots which are the ones that cause strokes and show up on CT scans, MRI, etc. The clots I’m talking about are microscopic and too small to find on any scan. They can thus only be detected using the D-dimer test.”


Dr Hoffe explains he has been performing D-dimer tests on his mRNA ‘vaccinated’ patients and he has worryingly identified that 62 percent of them had these microscopic blood clots.

“These people have no idea they are even having these microscopic blood clots. The most alarming part of this is that there are some parts of the body like the brain, spinal cord, heart and lungs which cannot re-generate. When those tissues are damaged by blood clots they are permanently damaged.”

The result, says Dr Hoffe, is that these patients have what is termed Reduced Effort Tolerance (RET) which means they get out of breath much easily than they used to. It is because the blood vessels in their lungs are now blocked up. In turn, this causes the heart to need to work harder to try to keep up against a much greater resistance trying to get the blood through your lungs.

This is called pulmonary artery hypertension – high blood pressure in the lungs because the blood simply cannot get through effectively. People with this condition usually die of heart failure within a few short years.

In conclusion, Dr Hoffe lamented:

"These Shots Are Causing Huge Damage And The Worst Is Yet To Come.”

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Video of the doctor talking: https://www.bitchute.com/video/HzFryvUuryVS/
If true then this should be tested. This is just one of those things I mentioned that nobody knew to think of and that is likely to be a problem.
 

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Doctor: Heart Failure From MRNA Jabs “Will Kill Most People”


Dr Charles Hoffe MD, in his latest update of July 6, 2021 is reporting on the disturbing findings in his patients. He says the mRNA vaccines are plugging up thousands of tiny capillaries in the blood of those who took the ‘vaccine.’ Most will die in a few short years from heart failure.

The spike proteins injected, which are designed to be mass produced in the bodies of the vaccinated, are the cause of the clotting, which is having adverse effects on no fewer than 60 percent of people injected.

Dr Hoffe continues:

“So it is absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form because your blood platelets circulate round your blood vessels, and the purpose of blood platelets is to identify damaged vessels and stop bleeding. So, when the platelet comes through the capillary it suddenly hits all these COVID spikes and it becomes absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form to block that vessel.”

Therefore, these spike proteins can predictably cause blood clots. They are in your blood vessels (if mRNA ‘vaccinated’) so it is guaranteed. Dr Bahrdi then said to me that the way to prove this is to do a blood test called a D-dimer blood test.

“The blood clots we hear about which the media claim are very rare are the big blood clots which are the ones that cause strokes and show up on CT scans, MRI, etc. The clots I’m talking about are microscopic and too small to find on any scan. They can thus only be detected using the D-dimer test.”


Dr Hoffe explains he has been performing D-dimer tests on his mRNA ‘vaccinated’ patients and he has worryingly identified that 62 percent of them had these microscopic blood clots.

“These people have no idea they are even having these microscopic blood clots. The most alarming part of this is that there are some parts of the body like the brain, spinal cord, heart and lungs which cannot re-generate. When those tissues are damaged by blood clots they are permanently damaged.”

The result, says Dr Hoffe, is that these patients have what is termed Reduced Effort Tolerance (RET) which means they get out of breath much easily than they used to. It is because the blood vessels in their lungs are now blocked up. In turn, this causes the heart to need to work harder to try to keep up against a much greater resistance trying to get the blood through your lungs.

This is called pulmonary artery hypertension – high blood pressure in the lungs because the blood simply cannot get through effectively. People with this condition usually die of heart failure within a few short years.

In conclusion, Dr Hoffe lamented:

"These Shots Are Causing Huge Damage And The Worst Is Yet To Come.”

Source

Video of the doctor talking: https://www.bitchute.com/video/HzFryvUuryVS/
So this article is loaded with facts that are easy to verify.

And, to boot, it would be pretty easy for anyone who has had the Pfizer vaccine to go and get a D-dimer test done? It should therefore be a simple matter for the manufacturers of the mRNA vaccines to arrange for their long-term test group to be tested accordingly and report back?

The interesting part would be to know if a D-dimer or equivalent test is routinely being carried out in SA?
And secondly, if there would be any point for those that have received the Pfizer vaccine who have had a D-dimer test or equivalent done before getting the vaccine to go and get one done now to see if the tests reveal any markedly different results now?

That should pretty much settle the debate?


Any comments?
 
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TL;DR - If you take the vaccine willingly, you are a test subject and cannot sue anybody if you die or get sick from it. Of course, most people are like sheep and will bleat when they get stuck in the arm with a vial of long-term poison.
 

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TL;DR - If you take the vaccine willingly, you are a test subject and cannot sue anybody if you die or get sick from it. Of course, most people are like sheep and will bleat when they get stuck in the arm with a vial of long-term poison.
Not correct. The vaccine has been given approval, which goes along with a level of certainty that it won't harm you so there must be some recourse.

The issue would be to be able to prove your case!. How does anyone do that? What tests would one have to do and at what cost before getting the jab and when should one repeat those tests afterwards to be able to show evidence that the vaccine was responsible?
 

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Not correct. The vaccine has been given approval, which goes along with a level of certainty that it won't harm you so there must be some recourse.

The issue would be to be able to prove your case!. How does anyone do that? What tests would one have to do and at what cost before getting the jab and when should one repeat those tests afterwards to be able to show evidence that the vaccine was responsible?
The real question is this: if something results in an increased incidence of 100% then with 50% of people it was the cause and 50% not, so how do you decide if someone is part of that 50% where it's the cause?

In medicine there is never such a thing as a cause and only an increased incidence or contributing factor. Legally the question becomes where do you place the benefit of the doubt? One side will usually try to show likelihood and that a person had no prior history or risk while the other will try to show that there could have been other factors that could have contributed.
 

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If true, devastating.

Doctor: Heart Failure From MRNA Jabs “Will Kill Most People”


Dr Charles Hoffe MD, in his latest update of July 6, 2021 is reporting on the disturbing findings in his patients. He says the mRNA vaccines are plugging up thousands of tiny capillaries in the blood of those who took the ‘vaccine.’ Most will die in a few short years from heart failure.

The spike proteins injected, which are designed to be mass produced in the bodies of the vaccinated, are the cause of the clotting, which is having adverse effects on no fewer than 60 percent of people injected.

Dr Hoffe continues:

“So it is absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form because your blood platelets circulate round your blood vessels, and the purpose of blood platelets is to identify damaged vessels and stop bleeding. So, when the platelet comes through the capillary it suddenly hits all these COVID spikes and it becomes absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form to block that vessel.”

Therefore, these spike proteins can predictably cause blood clots. They are in your blood vessels (if mRNA ‘vaccinated’) so it is guaranteed. Dr Bahrdi then said to me that the way to prove this is to do a blood test called a D-dimer blood test.

“The blood clots we hear about which the media claim are very rare are the big blood clots which are the ones that cause strokes and show up on CT scans, MRI, etc. The clots I’m talking about are microscopic and too small to find on any scan. They can thus only be detected using the D-dimer test.”


Dr Hoffe explains he has been performing D-dimer tests on his mRNA ‘vaccinated’ patients and he has worryingly identified that 62 percent of them had these microscopic blood clots.

“These people have no idea they are even having these microscopic blood clots. The most alarming part of this is that there are some parts of the body like the brain, spinal cord, heart and lungs which cannot re-generate. When those tissues are damaged by blood clots they are permanently damaged.”

The result, says Dr Hoffe, is that these patients have what is termed Reduced Effort Tolerance (RET) which means they get out of breath much easily than they used to. It is because the blood vessels in their lungs are now blocked up. In turn, this causes the heart to need to work harder to try to keep up against a much greater resistance trying to get the blood through your lungs.

This is called pulmonary artery hypertension – high blood pressure in the lungs because the blood simply cannot get through effectively. People with this condition usually die of heart failure within a few short years.

In conclusion, Dr Hoffe lamented:

"These Shots Are Causing Huge Damage And The Worst Is Yet To Come.”

Source

Video of the doctor talking: https://www.bitchute.com/video/HzFryvUuryVS/

It's not true, and easy to verify if you did a bit of homework and fact checking yourself.

Hoffe is known to be part of the kooky club, and has spouted nonsense before to the point of being warned to stop spreading false and damaging information regarding vaccines by health authorities in Canada. He previously claimed that mRNA vaccines is experimental gene therapy. That alone should be enough for you to completely disregard anything that he says.

But just looking at what he's on about now, claiming that microclots form from the blood vessels now being "spiky" on the inside surface instead of smooth is just laughable. That's not how mrna mediated immunogenicity works at all.
 

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It's not true, and easy to verify if you did a bit of homework and fact checking yourself.
Done any fact-checking yourself?
Hoffe is known to be part of the kooky club
So that is enough for you to ignore what he says?
That's not how mrna mediated immunogenicity works at all.
So how does it work in your opinion?

Do you have any info on the test he using to prove his viewpoint?

I am looking for local SA sources and opinions and have nothing useful yet.
 

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The Public Health England weekly updates make for interesting reading, especially regarding this Delta variant, and the sheer number of breakthrough infections despite the reduced cycle threshold for the vaccinated. There are 79% more vaccinated (at least one dose) deaths than unvaccinated over the same period. In the >50 age group it is 120% more. CFR is 0.022 vs 0.056 in vaccinated and unvaccinated respectively. This is not surprising because we already know the risk of dying increases exponentially with age in the unvaccinated but those numbers do not look good after only 6 months when considering the vaccinated.

Link please. I tried to Google some of these stats and couldn't find any reference.
 

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Doctor: Heart Failure From MRNA Jabs “Will Kill Most People”


Dr Charles Hoffe MD, in his latest update of July 6, 2021 is reporting on the disturbing findings in his patients. He says the mRNA vaccines are plugging up thousands of tiny capillaries in the blood of those who took the ‘vaccine.’ Most will die in a few short years from heart failure.

The spike proteins injected, which are designed to be mass produced in the bodies of the vaccinated, are the cause of the clotting, which is having adverse effects on no fewer than 60 percent of people injected.

Dr Hoffe continues:

“So it is absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form because your blood platelets circulate round your blood vessels, and the purpose of blood platelets is to identify damaged vessels and stop bleeding. So, when the platelet comes through the capillary it suddenly hits all these COVID spikes and it becomes absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form to block that vessel.”

Therefore, these spike proteins can predictably cause blood clots. They are in your blood vessels (if mRNA ‘vaccinated’) so it is guaranteed. Dr Bahrdi then said to me that the way to prove this is to do a blood test called a D-dimer blood test.

“The blood clots we hear about which the media claim are very rare are the big blood clots which are the ones that cause strokes and show up on CT scans, MRI, etc. The clots I’m talking about are microscopic and too small to find on any scan. They can thus only be detected using the D-dimer test.”


Dr Hoffe explains he has been performing D-dimer tests on his mRNA ‘vaccinated’ patients and he has worryingly identified that 62 percent of them had these microscopic blood clots.

“These people have no idea they are even having these microscopic blood clots. The most alarming part of this is that there are some parts of the body like the brain, spinal cord, heart and lungs which cannot re-generate. When those tissues are damaged by blood clots they are permanently damaged.”

The result, says Dr Hoffe, is that these patients have what is termed Reduced Effort Tolerance (RET) which means they get out of breath much easily than they used to. It is because the blood vessels in their lungs are now blocked up. In turn, this causes the heart to need to work harder to try to keep up against a much greater resistance trying to get the blood through your lungs.

This is called pulmonary artery hypertension – high blood pressure in the lungs because the blood simply cannot get through effectively. People with this condition usually die of heart failure within a few short years.

In conclusion, Dr Hoffe lamented:

"These Shots Are Causing Huge Damage And The Worst Is Yet To Come.”

Source

Video of the doctor talking: https://www.bitchute.com/video/HzFryvUuryVS/

This dude's sources are straight up conspiracy theory and misinformation sites... Can we please get him banned?

For all the idiots who liked his post without bothered to check where it came from – his source is the following conspiracy theory site:





Seriously, why is this guy allowed to post utter bullshit and no-one is dealing with it?
 
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This dude's sources are straight up conspiracy theory and misinformation sites... Can we please get him banned?
Much better to refute/ confirm/qualify the information in the article on a step by step basis.
 

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Much better to refute/ confirm/qualify the information in the article on a step by step basis.

He never posts anything but conspiracy theory bullshit. So many people have wasted so much time and energy trying to fight back against information that is designed to appeal to conspiracy theory nutjobs.

WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING. NONE OF US ARE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS. SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE TRYING TO PICK APART THINGS THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO UNDERSTANDING OF.

What's really **** frustrating about all of this is that you share information from verified sources, and people go "oh, what about this?" and share some obscure blog with absolutely no actual scientific backing behind it! Good grief!
 

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It's a conspiracy theory site. Jesus, sorry Geoff, but what the hell? You don't even bother to look at his sources before claiming they are "facts"
Well they are facts --- just refute them if they are not true. They are not woolly statements.

Just work through what he says, collect the factual statements and either agree that it is correct or no it is not correct and say why.

That is what I mean by "facts".

The guy is a Dr. with a degree after all. Not everything he says can be wrong but his analysis can be and his conclusions can be wrong.

That is the only way to do a peer review study is it not? There are so many "attacks" on this forum claiming some of us are not qualified to undertake such processes, so here is a chance for those that are able to, to do it.

Or, must those of us who are continually hammered as not being qualified to do so do it again?

I am busy with that exercise for my own benefit. When I am finished I will know either way. I might share my analysis I might not. I might decide to keep my opinion to myself also, either way.

It is a very good learning exercise even if it is just to confirm and refresh existing knowledge.

Simply attacking the person just makes the commentary nothing more than that a personal attack.
 

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He never posts anything but conspiracy theory bullshit. So many people have wasted so much time and energy trying to fight back against information that is designed to appeal to conspiracy theory nutjobs.

WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING. NONE OF US ARE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS. SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE TRYING TO PICK APART THINGS THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO UNDERSTANDING OF.

What's really **** frustrating about all of this is that you share information from verified sources, and people go "oh, what about this?" and share some obscure blog with absolutely no actual scientific backing behind it! Good grief!
That is why I don't post links of this sort, never link to YT videos and MSM articles. They have to be really good before i do so. There are enough people here to keep us very busy already.

It is an open-ended question. If you don't want to do it then just don't. You don't even have to say you won't. And I did not post this link BTW.
 

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Well they are facts --- just refute them if they are not true. They are not woolly statements.

Just work through what he says, collect the factual statements and either agree that it is correct or no it is not correct and say why.

That is what I mean by "facts".

The guy is a Dr. with a degree after all. Not everything he says can be wrong but his analysis can be and his conclusions can be wrong.

That is the only way to do a peer review study is it not? There are so many "attacks" on this forum claiming some of us are not qualified to undertake such processes, so here is a chance for those that are able to, to do it.

Or, must those of us who are continually hammered as not being qualified to do so do it again?

I am busy with that exercise for my own benefit. When I am finished I will know either way. I might share my analysis I might not. I might decide to keep my opinion to myself also, either way.

It is a very good learning exercise even if it is just to confirm and refresh existing knowledge.

Simply attacking the person just makes the commentary nothing more than that a personal attack.

It's easier for me to add people with absolutely no medical backing to ignore. Considering all the other **** going on in SA at the moment, I'd rather let the conspiracy theorists and wanna-be physicians play doctor till they're blue in the face.

Or just leave this here:

Anyone that creates or spreads fake news about the Coronavirus COVID-19 is liable for prosecution. Verify the information before you share information.

Report fake news through the Real411 website: www.real411.org(link is external) or the Whatsapp line 067 966 4015.



@SoldierMan

Edit. This forum needs some bloody moderation if MyBB don't want to get damn well sued.

@rpm As the bold text above.
 
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It's a conspiracy theory site. Jesus, sorry Geoff, but what the hell? You don't even bother to look at his sources before claiming they are "facts"
Dude stop jumping on that high horse. Facts in science are simply observations. It doesn't mean they're true. It doesn't mean they're not true. They could be mistaken observations. They might be correctly observed but out of context and not support the conclusion. But facts never become non-facts. I knew exactly what he was saying.

These are all easily verifiable claims. If it's occurring on this level there should be a lot of doctors who'd want to "prove" it and they easily can. On the other hand if it's like 1 out of 1,000 or 10,000 individuals it won't be so easy to detect by just testing 100 individuals and will take a lot longer to prove any statistically significant correlation.

I take claims such as these with a pinch of salt just like the one about the doctors having a 100% success rate with 1,000 patients, but I also don't dismiss them out of hand just because that's the way I want things to swing. Often they may contain some part truths or introduce a new angle.

It's easier for me to add people with absolutely no medical backing to ignore. Considering all the other **** going on in SA at the moment, I'd rather let the conspiracy theorists and wanna-be physicians play doctor till they're blue in the face.

Or just leave this here:

Anyone that creates or spreads fake news about the Coronavirus COVID-19 is liable for prosecution. Verify the information before you share information.

Report fake news through the Real411 website: www.real411.org(link is external) or the Whatsapp line 067 966 4015.



@SoldierMan

Edit. This forum needs some bloody moderation if MyBB don't want to get damn well sued.

@rpm As the bold text above.
And that is what we should be wary off. Not only is that unlikely to pass constitutional muster but it puts a filter on only allowing pre-approved information. It's also only a temporary measure and will come up again not only by those who originally posted it but others as well. A much better approach is to point out false information and show why it is false. Social platforms can easily implement such a system but they choose not to and instead apply censoring.
 

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so most people are going to die in a few years, but nobody has died right now, because this doctor reckons that loads of small blood clots are forming? And this is why this hasn't been reported yet to that ultra-reliable source of adverse events specifically form the vaccine - VAERS. Also on this site, carbon dioxide isn't a greenhouse gas, and mRNA vaccines are experimental gene therapy (a key anti-vax/right-wing buzzphrase). I wonder why we haven't seen this in the last year (maybe it's too soon) or for that matter from any of the other mRNA trials conducted on humans for other diseases in the last 6 or so years (enough time for everyone in those trials to die...)

I'd like to see some more evidence or peer review before any of this can be regarded as 'fact'. The whole website is distinctly aligned to fringe/conspiracy theorist views - not sure how you guys are able to simply trust it? it's quite disappointing actually.

Edit: Also on this site, proof that the virus was patented and engineered. Plus, "This virus⁣ is not novel. There was no pandemic. There are no variants of the virus. This was all merely a campaign of coercion and terror to address a stated objective. Dr David Martin speaks to Dr Reiner Fuellmich."

Guys, just run a few pages of looking at the headlines and you can see how distinctly conspiracy theory related this site is. COME ON! If you're going to want to believe/fact check this bullshit then at least do the same on the mountain of information that demonstrates how good the vaccines are. ffs.

Finally, on several articles they request donations "to support our ongoing work to expose the lies about COVID-19", in addition to being an Amazon Affiliate. It feels like some of you are now seriously grasping at straws.
 
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This dude's sources are straight up conspiracy theory and misinformation sites... Can we please get him banned?

For all the idiots who liked his post without bothered to check where it came from – his source is the following conspiracy theory site:





Seriously, why is this guy allowed to post utter bullshit and no-one is dealing with it?

So what you are saying is that no evidence of blood clots were found in the vaccinated people?

Why are you just attacking site it was mentioned on and not the blood clot evidence????

Do you also still think that those who say the virus came from the Wuhan lab should be banned too? Or did that "conspiracy" prove to be true.....
 

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It's not true, and easy to verify if you did a bit of homework and fact checking yourself.

Hoffe is known to be part of the kooky club, and has spouted nonsense before to the point of being warned to stop spreading false and damaging information regarding vaccines by health authorities in Canada. He previously claimed that mRNA vaccines is experimental gene therapy. That alone should be enough for you to completely disregard anything that he says.

But just looking at what he's on about now, claiming that microclots form from the blood vessels now being "spiky" on the inside surface instead of smooth is just laughable. That's not how mrna mediated immunogenicity works at all.

Oh, how does it work then?

You know that the vaccine doesn't just stay in the injection site, it moves around.
 
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