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All this talk about 8 months and other stuff about waning anti-body counts etc. Just this morning the Prof CEO of the NICD was on about it also. A day does not go past that MSM does not publish an article about vaccine effectiveness somewhere, making all sorts of confusing noises.
That is the problem! The articles hardly ever deal with the total system, just focus on one or another element of how our immune response works.
impossible to read. Is there a link to the real thing?
Link or clearer picture plse??
Would be nice if the comparison also covered <50 year olds.
Some important info on the Pfizer/Moderna vaccine!
You have to watch this 1 minute video clip.
It is of Dr David LV Bauer of the Frances Crick Institute, Head of Vaccine Research Unit saying that if you take the Pfizer vaccine your immune system will be 5-6 times less effective as it will have less of the neutralising antibodies and you will have to rely on boosters! That is - your immune system will function 80% less effective!
This is not some nobody he is the head of the vaccine research unit at the Crick Institute.
Devastating news if true. Dr Geert Vanden Bossche warned of this a while back and people ignored him.
Scroll down a little for the video.
How has it never been done that way? It's exactly how it's done with Covid. Or is that also fake news by MSM?Yes it is bogus which is why nobody has ever done it that way. Now show some proof to convince me otherwise or leave this lie behind.
More BS assuming that every death with Covid is a Covid death.Everyone dies anyway. There have been plenty analysis done on this. Here's one: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-83040-3
Show us proof that it's Covid. It's no mystery what caused the excess deaths in a country with malnourished and severely immunocompromised individuals on HIV and TB medication during a time when lots of individuals couldn't get medical treatment. It's only now that the numbers even with overcounting don't support the scaremongering that they're blamed on Covid.No it's not a fallacy. Excess deaths are also known as winter deaths, the time the immune system is compromised due to the cold. Excess deaths include all kinds of death, like hypothermia for example. Usually the biggest contributor to excess deaths is Influenza. That's why it's called flu season.
Now suddenly we have massive amounts of excess deaths in summer and what a coincidence it's at the same time as hospitals are full of Covid patients.
And BTW thanks to our infection mitigation strategies the Influenza virus has all but disappeared.
Pretending like Covid is not the primary contributor to excess deaths is bogus.
Either show me proof of what is "really" causing excess deaths or leave this lie behind.
Aye, and 1 million would make it no more deadly that the flu.We don't need exact figures to establish what we already know. Whether it's 4 million dead or 6 million death the fact is it's extremely deadly.
We do not know how they do it. The point I made which you simply gloss over calling it misinformation is that no stone is left unturned to make sure if a death is caused by the vaccines while with Covid it's a simple count.No. VAERS counts EVERY DEATH no matter what the cause. They do not attribute every death to the vaccine! The only thing they are making doubly sure of is that the deaths are actual deaths as opposed to falsified death reports by the tinfoil hat army.
You seem to have a real problem with repeating debunked misinformation. We literally went over this issue like a page or 2 back yet you seem to have forgotten about it already.
Those are good points. From the start the assumption has been that everyone is exposed to everyone else. That's not how we operate in our nature. From there the "waves" as groups get exposed to other groups. It is NOT Covid sweeping over already infected people again but rather groups that weren't infected before.Yes maybe. But how do you test that? Everyone is under lockdowns. Herd immunity ALSO assumes no restrictions on people movement which means random contact is not impeded. Instead, LDs concentrate people into certain contact behaviours, the same people will generally be in contact within a community (generally speaking), which in turn means the "protection" offered by those vaccinated just does not create the herd immunity umbrella. All much more complicated than it looks on the surface.
As an example, my wife and I go out once a week, we make contact with the seam people at the shops (2 shops) week in week out. Our contact with the rest of the population is severely restricted. Our protection is dependent on that relatively small number of people in the shops. And because we are all creatures of habit, the same shoppers are in the shops at the same time. In fact, after a year we are great distance friends with the same people because we see the same people all the time.
BTW, today on TV (every day early in the morning and at night) on ch 404, there is a doctor answering all sorts of questions. The latest topic has been all about vaccines, vaccine intolerance, allergic reactions, etc.
The doctor this morning pointed out that maximum effectiveness for Pfizer is only reached after 42+14 = 56 days. This means all those vaccinated should not relax their guard for a lot longer than most are.
In SA, with the incredibly low vax rates, the anti-vax lot don't even feature in the calculations yet.
How has it never been done that way? It's exactly how it's done with Covid. Or is that also fake news by MSM?
More BS assuming that every death with Covid is a Covid death.
Show us proof that it's Covid. It's no mystery what caused the excess deaths in a country with malnourished and severely immunocompromised individuals on HIV and TB medication during a time when lots of individuals couldn't get medical treatment. It's only now that the numbers even with overcounting don't support the scaremongering that they're blamed on Covid.
It's also nonsense that there's virtually no flu any more. People call many infections either flu or colds. The people around me haven't shown any less of those.
Aye, and 1 million would make it no more deadly that the flu.
We do not know how they do it. The point I made which you simply gloss over calling it misinformation is that no stone is left unturned to make sure if a death is caused by the vaccines while with Covid it's a simple count.
That's not the biggest issue. It's how these comparisons only present one number. Only peer reviewed studies can answer the questions:Would be nice if the comparison also covered <50 year olds.
Ie lower risk of covid, higher risk of adverse reactions.