Mthethwa asks SA Rugby to take action after eight players refuse to bend the knee in support of BLM in England

[CAPS LOCK]

Read an earlier post. I don't care about specific people in a group. It's the movement I care about.

An empty vessel makes the most noise.

 

[Brenden_E]

Lot of ignorance here (again, I'm not insulting you with that word).

BLM started as movement specifically against police brutality against black Americans. Now the movement has evolved worldwide to specific geographies in that region for example. the police killings of black Britons in the UK.

It's not a movement about "Africans in Africa". Although by in large, the group itself seems to be expanding its scope about black people worldwide.

George Floyd is one of many unarmed black men deaths. Like I mean many, we don't hear about it in SA all the time but when you're here, it's constant. The protests took fever pitch because in a short time span

1) Ahmaud Arbery was killed

• There was no accountability here until a video went viral months later

2) Breonna Taylor was killed

• Months later still trying to charge the officers

Regardless, there's hardly any officers who end up actually going to jail. There is zero accountability and reinforced by the police unions here. Add the viral video of GF, mass unemployment from corona and poof. Yo usaw the end result

No idea who these people are, so I google.

Breonna Taylor was involved with a druggie, they tried to raid her house to look for controlled substances, and her boyfriend Kenneth Walker opened fire on police officers first. The police then proceeded to fire 20 shots into the apartment. Damn, who would've thought police would fire back when you shoot at them.

This is the poster child for BLM, people. LOL!

Killing of Breonna Taylor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[boramk]

Last post, I have to get some work done today

The entire discussion is about violence in a culture so that's what I'm going to reference. Petty, nonviolent crime wasn't part of the discussion at all, what are you even on about?

No this was the stem of the discussion. It was about crime. You made it about violent crime to disprove a point I was never making.

Compared to the USA, India does not have high economic growth. The average African American has a plethora of opportunities compared to the average Indian.

Not true. India has a significantly higher GDP growth rate than the US.

Well, yea it's easy to say black South Africans are more likely to rape. It's called rape culture for a reason. Many African men believe they own and have dominion over women.

I wonder if you could bravely claim that in a room full of black people? If its easier for you to think South African men are rapists because X instead of thinking deeper about it then yea...

Anyways, it was a nice chat everyone!

 

[Brenden_E]

I wonder if you could bravely claim that in a room full of black people? If its easier for you to think South African men are rapists because X instead of thinking deeper about it then yea...

Anyways, it was a nice chat everyone!

Well clearly not, because they will violently assault me. THAT'S THE POINT, LOL!

 

[CaptainOblivious]

Last post, I have to get some work done today



No this was the stem of the discussion. It was about crime. You made it about violent crime to disprove a point I was never making.

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Not true. India has a significantly higher GDP growth rate than the US.



I wonder if you could bravely claim that in a room full of black people? If its easier for you to think South African men are rapists because X instead of thinking deeper about it then yea...

Anyways, it was a nice chat everyone!

 

[koeks525]

The rugby players who did not "take the knee" weren't politically smart; they should have taken the knee even if it is something they do not necessarily agree with. Had they all taken the knee, there wouldn't have been all this drama and outrage. It is like people who make controversial tweets and statements, then act surprised when things blow up in their faces (or time lines)

BLM died a long time ago; the cause has been hijacked by politicians and fake news media. Same thing happened to Fees Must Fall... a legitimate cause which got hijacked by politicians and fake news media. We can all take the knee, create petitions, and protest; unfortunately, these actions do very little in addressing issues faced with society.

 

[boramk]

No idea who these people are, so I google.

Breonna Taylor was involved with a druggie, they tried to raid her house to look for controlled substances, and her boyfriend Kenneth Walker opened fire on police officers first. The police then proceeded to fire 20 shots into the apartment. Damn, who would've thought police would fire back when you shoot at them.

This is the poster child for BLM, people. LOL!

Killing of Breonna Taylor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

My friend, I really have to go but have to point this out, once again highlighting your lack of depth in thinking.

The boyfriend is a drug dealer.
There was no announcement of the warrant, the police just started ramming the door.
The armed boyfriend started shooting.
Breonna get killed in the shots back.

The whole case has involved the police's use of no knock warrants. It got an innocent person killed. She didn't deserve to die just because her boyfriend was a drug dealer. There was no reason to falsify information the way the police did either.

I'm pointing this out to answer the guy's question why GF's killing was a big deal. Not to have a discussion about no knock warrants.

 

[Brenden_E]

Last post, I have to get some work done today



No this was the stem of the discussion. It was about crime. You made it about violent crime to disprove a point I was never making.

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And this requires a separate post because @boramk claims we don't know math and he does.
He believes 6.8% growth of $2000 is more than 2.9% growth of $60 000

What to say to this level of genius. I am humbled.

 

[Flanders]

Had they all taken the knee, there wouldn't have been all this drama and outrage.

Strongly disagree. Sportsmen (and women of course) are role models.

Look, mommy. He's taking a knee. I want to be like him...

*cancer intensifies*

 

[boramk]

And this requires a separate post because @boramk claims we don't know math and he does.
He believes 6.8% growth of $2000 is more than 2.9% growth of $60 000

What to say to this level of genius. I am humbled.

I'm honestly astounded at your stupidity. Like genuinely its embarrassing - are you really trying to explain to me how bases work when you couldn't even get proportionality with your graph earlier today?

India's economy has a higher growth rate than the US. Nobody counts GDP growth in absolute $ terms. My undergrad is in Econ before you decide to say otherwise.

 

[Brenden_E]

I'm honestly astounded at your stupidity. Like genuinely its embarrassing - are you really trying to explain to me how bases work when you couldn't even get proportionality with your graph earlier today?

India's economy has a higher growth rate than the US. Nobody counts GDP growth in absolute $ terms. My undergrad is in Econ before you decide to say otherwise.

2,009.98 USD per Capita in India
62,794.59 USD per Capita in USA

USA has average growth rate of 3% and india 7% over the last few years. Let's work it out.

$2,009.98 * .07 = $140.7 more money per year, per person in India
$62,794.59 * .03 = $1,883.8 more money per year, per person in USA

You went in hard, fam. Going to difficult to gracefully back down from this one.

 

[borro]

 

[Sinbad]

This is for Nathi

 

[Mila]

joh I have not laughed that hard in a long time

 

[boramk]

2,009.98 USD per Capita in India
62,794.59 USD per Capita in USA

USA has average growth rate of 3% and india 7% over the last few years. Let's work it out.

$2,009.98 * .07 = $140.7 more money per year, per person in India
$62,794.59 * .03 = $18,838.3 more money per year, per person in USA

You went in hard, fam. Going to difficult to gracefully back down from this one.

My dude, you have to stop, this is a trainwreck why are you explaining to me how bases work? I'm not even disputing that. It's like a child trying to explain to a pilot how flying works because he played GTA.

"Plane goes up in the air like wooosh!"
Yea I know that.

1. Economic growth rate is measured in % not absolute $ terms, if it were we wouldn't categorize any of the high growth countries as "high growth countries"

• Even if the US grew at 0.5%, they'd add more in $ terms than India still but that doesn't detract from the fact that the US would be in economic trouble and now considered "high growth" BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW WE MEASURE ECONOMIC GROWTH

2. You can't grow per capita like that since it doesn't factor in populations deltas, the actual calculation for capita is the GDP of one year divided by the population of that year therefore the growth rate per capita would be different than as a whole
3. You made a math error, but I expected that

You went in hard, fam. Going to difficult to gracefully back down from this one.

 

[Brenden_E]

My dude, you have to stop, this is a trainwreck why are you explaining to me how bases work? I'm not even disputing that. It's like a child trying to explain to a pilot how flying works because he played GTA.

"Plane goes up in the air like wooosh!"
Yea I know that.

1. Economic growth rate is measured in % not absolute $ terms, if it were we wouldn't categorize any of the high growth countries as "high growth countries"

• Even if the US grew at 0.5%, they'd add more in $ terms than India still but that doesn't detract from the fact that the US would be in economic trouble and now considered "high growth" BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW WE MEASURE ECONOMIC GROWTH

2. You can't grow per capita like that since it doesn't factor in populations deltas, the actual calculation for capita is the GDP of one year divided by the population of that year therefore the growth rate per capita would be different than as a whole
3. You made a math error, but I expected that

You went in hard, fam. Going to difficult to gracefully back down from this one.

You claim Indians are better off with $140.7 more per person per year, than Americans with $1,883.8 per year.
Please explain to us non economic undergrads how exactly that works.

And I fixed the typo on the period immediately after posting. Derp.

 

[Vrotappel]

Lot of ignorance here (again, I'm not insulting you with that word).

BLM started as movement specifically against police brutality against black Americans. Now the movement has evolved worldwide to specific geographies in that region for example. the police killings of black Britons in the UK.

It's not a movement about "Africans in Africa". Although by in large, the group itself seems to be expanding its scope about black people worldwide.

George Floyd is one of many unarmed black men deaths. Like I mean many, we don't hear about it in SA all the time but when you're here, it's constant. The protests took fever pitch because in a short time span

1) Ahmaud Arbery was killed

• There was no accountability here until a video went viral months later

2) Breonna Taylor was killed

• Months later still trying to charge the officers

Regardless, there's hardly any officers who end up actually going to jail. There is zero accountability and reinforced by the police unions here. Add the viral video of GF, mass unemployment from corona and poof. Yo usaw the end result

50 killed a day in SA. 2 killed in half a year in USA. Makes sense.

But funny thing - when a black cop kills no real problem. Why is that?

?

 

[Brenden_E]

My dude, you have to stop, this is a trainwreck why are you explaining to me how bases work? I'm not even disputing that. It's like a child trying to explain to a pilot how flying works because he played GTA.

"Plane goes up in the air like wooosh!"
Yea I know that.

1. Economic growth rate is measured in % not absolute $ terms, if it were we wouldn't categorize any of the high growth countries as "high growth countries"

• Even if the US grew at 0.5%, they'd add more in $ terms than India still but that doesn't detract from the fact that the US would be in economic trouble and now considered "high growth" BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW WE MEASURE ECONOMIC GROWTH

2. You can't grow per capita like that since it doesn't factor in populations deltas, the actual calculation for capita is the GDP of one year divided by the population of that year therefore the growth rate per capita would be different than as a whole
3. You made a math error, but I expected that

You went in hard, fam. Going to difficult to gracefully back down from this one.

Google corroborates my findings.




I'd really like to hear your explanation of how the Indian is better off with his paltry $100 more per year. Come now, stop deflecting.

 

[Cray]

No idea who these people are, so I google.

Breonna Taylor was involved with a druggie, they tried to raid her house to look for controlled substances, and her boyfriend Kenneth Walker opened fire on police officers first. The police then proceeded to fire 20 shots into the apartment. Damn, who would've thought police would fire back when you shoot at them.

This is the poster child for BLM, people. LOL!

So police get the wrong house and execute a no knock warrant against a woman who once dated a drug dealer. When her current boyfriend tries to defend himself against people he thinks are intruders they shoot and kill a her in her own home...

And you have no problem with any of that?

 

[boramk]

Google corroborates my findings.

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I'd really like to hear your explanation of how the Indian is better off with his paltry $100 more per year. Come now, stop deflecting.

Nobody disputed the growth figures. Nobody disputed the GDP numbers. I'm literally telling you that you are using things incorrectly

- GDP growth rate =/= GDP growth rate per capita
- India is growing faster than the US is a fact

This is how bad at math you are, you are so hung up on the absolute $ figure you can't even comprehend how compounded growth looks like even from a low base, let alone the fact that Economists DON'T say "The US has a higher growth rate because it added more in $ terms".

Imagine trying to tell someone with a degree in something that you know more than them in that subject matter? This is why you are stupid af. And you don't back down from people that actually have knowledge in what they are talking about, you just keep digging your hole.