Mthethwa asks SA Rugby to take action after eight players refuse to bend the knee in support of BLM in England

[Brenden_E]

Scene:

Dude in Portland drives down the road.
He sees a person being physically attacked by blm rioters. (Not that it matters, but this person being attacked turns out to be a white trans woman.)
They steal her bag and beat on her.
He stops to help the woman. He doesn't escalate anything (IE. He tries to talk them down), he just tries to get her out of there.
They start attacking him.
He jumps back in his truck, but they keep harassing him, causing him to ultimately crash, a little way down the road.
They pull him out of his truck and force him to sit down in the road. He complies -not wanting any more trouble. (His SO gets physically attacked in the process, as well.)

Here's what happens next:

* raises fist and takes a knee *
#blm

These people are unhinged, and they have so many supporters even on this forum.

 

[Cray]

I'm not that daft to think a person that was involved with a druggie, had the police knock on their door, didn't answer or open, then has a boyfriend that opens fires on a police officer is cut and dry police brutality story.

Uh, it was a no-knock warrant, they broke in with a battering ram.

 

[Brenden_E]

Uh, it was a no-knock warrant, they broke in with a battering ram.

The police report said they announced themselves first and did in fact knock with no reply.

 

[Cray]

The police report said they announced themselves first and did in fact knock with no reply.

Yeah, am sure that the police report is 100% honest considering they killed someone

Am curious, if you don't ascribe incompetence or stupidity to the cops, what do you think the motivation of the resident in this case was? Do you think a licensed gun owner, with no criminal record just decided to open fire on people he knew to be cops?

 

[Moosedrool]

Am curious, if you don't ascribe incompetence or stupidity to the cops, what do you think the motivation of the resident in this case was? Do you think a licensed gun owner, with no criminal record just decided to open fire on people he knew to be cops?

Tell us the police's motivation?

 

[Brenden_E]

Yeah, am sure that the police report is 100% honest considering they killed someone

Am curious, if you don't ascribe incompetence or stupidity to the cops, what do you think the motivation of the resident in this case was? Do you think a licensed gun owner, with no criminal record just decided to open fire on people he knew to be cops?

Dude, you are being an idiot. I'm not saying it's a desirable outcome. But you hang out with druggies, eventually, their crap will follow you home.

Could the cops have handled it better? Clearly, they fired a guy. Could the lady who got shot and her boyfriend have handled it better- no doubt.

 

[Aghori]

I pity the fool who think that black lives matter.

Black culture is violent and they are responsible for more crime compared to asians and whites. Poverty is not a causative factor in this - there are far poorer asians and whites wordwide who work harder and don't turn to crime.

Their culture needs to be addressed and they need to start placing value on education.

 

[Ponderer]

How many "black" people are killed by "black" people?
Are the killers of "black" people not mostly "black" people?

 

[Cray]

Dude, you are being an idiot. I'm not saying it's a desirable outcome. But you hang out with druggies, eventually, their crap will follow you home.

Am we're done here, you are just repeating the same tired BS without actually worrying about things like facts., Hopefully, you don't end up on the wrong side of poorly trained cops one day, not like that will ever happen in this country.

 

[Brenden_E]

Am we're done here, you are just repeating the same tired BS without actually worrying about things like facts., Hopefully, you don't end up on the wrong side of poorly trained cops one day, not like that will ever happen in this country.

You are using nothing more than conjecture. The report state that the police knocked (which may or may not be true). You say they didn't like you know for sure. OK man, thanks for your alternative facts.

 

[Cray]

Tell us the police's motivation?

Gung ho mentality living out a Rambo fantasy? It's not like that's ever happened before right..?

Do you think that law enforcement in the US is super selective and always attracts the best people?

 

[Brenden_E]

Gung ho mentality living out a Rambo fantasy? It's not like that's ever happened before right..?

Do you think that law enforcement in the US is super selective and always attracts the best people?

Cray claims we should argue based on facts. Also Cray...
A leftist that shows their hypocrisy - like a moth to the flame.

 

[Cray]

You are using nothing more than conjecture. The report state that the police knocked (which may or may not be true). You say they didn't like you know for sure. OK man, thanks for your alternative facts.

They also said the Breonna Taylor had no injuries, I mean she was dead from gun shots, but no injuries so am sure the police report was all good and above board...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/louisville-police-breonna-taylor-death-incident-report/

Police in Louisville, Kentucky, released a nearly-blank incident report Wednesday from the night Breonna Taylor was fatally shot in her own apartment by officers. Despite the fact that the 26-year-old EMT was shot at least eight times during the no-knock search, the report listed Taylor's injuries as "none."

 

[Cray]

Cray claims we should argue based on facts. Also Cray...
A leftist that shows their hypocrisy - like a moth to the flame.

He asked for a possible motivation, I gave him one, I never stated that it was definitive. That's the reason I put in question marks, he was asking for possible motivations and I gave him one, never said it was absolutely true but that it might be a reason..

 

[Brenden_E]

They also said the Breonna Taylor had no injuries, I mean she was dead from gun shots, but no injuries so am sure the police report was all good and above board...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/louisville-police-breonna-taylor-death-incident-report/

So now you know for sure they didn't knock, am I right? This proves it!
Man, you're a bit idiotic in this conversation.

 

[ponder]

The rugby players who did not "take the knee" weren't politically smart; they should have taken the knee even if it is something they do not necessarily agree with. Had they all taken the knee, there wouldn't have been all this drama and outrage. It is like people who make controversial tweets and statements, then act surprised when things blow up in their faces (or time lines)

That's just wrong.

 

[Cray]

So now you know for sure they didn't knock, am I right? This proves it!
Man, you're a bit idiotic in this conversation.

No, but it casts doubt on their story when neighbors and the resident contradicted that statement. But hey if having a reasonable conversation fails just resort to insults, am sure that makes a convincing argument

 

[Vrotappel]

Last I checked Reeva didn't break into his house with a gun drawn....She want an intruder, the police in this case where...


A warrant they didn't announce, how do you tell the difference between a cop with a gun breaking into your house and an assailant breaking into your house if the police don't announce themselves...? Unless of course, you are aginst people protecting their home from intruders

Still how is this the fault of those Police officers and why is it racial. They had a warrant - so their entry was legal. Do you dispute that?

 

[Brenden_E]

No, but it casts doubt on their story when neighbors and the resident contradicted that statement. But hey if having a reasonable conversation fails just resort to insults, am sure that makes a convincing argument

The neighbors have no ax to grind (surely), and they were all up past midnight to hear the knocking. Reasonable conversation and all that.

 

[Ponderer]

No, but it casts doubt on their story when neighbors and the resident contradicted that statement. But hey if having a reasonable conversation fails just resort to insults, am sure that makes a convincing argument

For the record.
Do you think that the players that did not take the knee are racist/s for not taking the knee?