MultiChoice, eMedia, SABC get warning from Minister of Sports, Arts, and Culture

ToxicBunny said:
Ok cool Gayton... which legislation are you going to use to make things different? and are you prepared for the legal fight that is coming due to the volumes of money involved in this stuff?
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The millions he is saving from cutting Mammajoy Africa (or whateva dafuq her name is, lol) from the the budget?
 
Whoa everyone ... calm down.

Minister needs to justify existence and show that he is doing something however illogical or unpractical it may be.

As you were .....
 
BBSA said:
I'm actually with the gangster, Multichoice paid exorbitant prices for exclusive rights to maintain their monopoly. Somethings have to change.

Maybe the broadcasting rights should not be that expensive...
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MC purchased both the pay-TV, streaming and free-to-air terrestrial rights. What on earth does a pay-TV broadcaster want to do with free to air? That is only to keep the competition out.

BouncyNinja said:
Which of the above broadcasters fund sports development in this country?

If the playing field is leveled, and super sport looses its hold, and its income on sports events, i have a sneaky suspicion that the sport development , sponsorships, etc will dry up as well
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It's an artificial playing field. What will happen once there is no more Dstv to keep it going? This is also where I agree with Dawie Roodt that it's a good thing when bad companies go under as it frees up capital and opportunities for others. We also have to wonder if all these funds make it to where they should and not just some fat cats' pockets. Sport development also happens mainly at grass roots level. That's not where these bodies are involved.

BouncyNinja said:
Not saying a monopoly is a good thing, Im asking, who of the other broadcasters have stepped up in terms of sponsorships? Which of them put money up in terms of sponsorships and sports development?
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SABC believe it or not secured a few billion to broadcast the World Cup. Starsat also at one time was securing rights but Dstv pushed the price up too much and they could only afford a few niche events. It became unsustainable because the regulator wanted too much of a say in what content they could broadcast so they couldn't attract the viewership to support it. I'm not saying SABC management are blameless but viewership habits have changed so they no longer have the advertisers to support it but in the past the SABC funded it through tax payer money.

Jer1cho said:
Make big sporting events PPV like in the states.
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You know that's not really how it works? Most countries have sports of national interest available for free, if you discount that in countries like the UK and Germany you need a tv license. It's only the more exclusive sports with a smaller more loyal following that are PPV but it helps to fund the model.

konfab said:
1) Multichoice is not, in any way shape or form, a monopoly. Them going bankrupt is evidence of that. I thought the whole definition of a monopoly was for a company to entrench itself against market forces. Yet here we are with Multichoice going under in a slow motion disaster. That is market forces acting on them.
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You are right they're not a monopoly in terms of broadcasting. They are a monopoly though in terms of most sport. The definition of a de facto monopoly is any company which is entrenched because it does not face serious competition. Being a monopoly also does not shield you from market forces as you can price or position yourself out of the market.

konfab said:
2) SARU, Cricket SA and everyone else whose businesses are coupled directly with Multichoice need to seriously consider whether or not signing away all exclusivity to a company that can't even profit on an exclusive licence is good business practice. They probably should also think of the broader business. They want more people to play their sports, but currently only sell their broadcast rights to people who can shell out R800 per month. Good business thinking that. Getting more people into the sport is good for their business.
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Personally I think SARU has done more harm than good. They have not made sure that more people are interested in rugby. There has also been too much politics involved. I think the chickens coming home to roost for them and their cushy bed partner Multichoice is exactly what's needed for them to catch a wakeup.
 
Swa said:
MC purchased both the pay-TV, streaming and free-to-air terrestrial rights. What on earth does a pay-TV broadcaster want to do with free to air? That is only to keep the competition out.
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Correct.

In the past when they were streaming nothing, they already pay for the streaming rights and not using it.
 
Multichoice is a monopoly because I cannot watch rugby, motorsport or cricket unless I watch it on DSTV. There are a few exceptions, but they are far and few between!
 
Until all the sporting bodies start doing what Liberty Media is doing with F1TV then all the broadcasting companies are in danger. I believe FIFA is busy with something similar and has already somewhat rolled it out. The Premier League also threatened broadcasters in the UK with following the F1TV route. It's so bad with that Premier League that some of the matches are not available there and fan has to rely on illegal streams to watch their football. I regularly see them posting screenshots or clips with Supersport logos.

I have DSTV premium but still I watch my Formula 1 via F1TV, it's just better.
 
Bliksis said:
Haha that dom **** is playing all the right cards.
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We'll see if he gets anything done or if it's just words. Want to post him a message as he said he wants to know what people's complaints about the department is.
 
BouncyNinja said:
Not saying a monopoly is a good thing, Im asking, who of the other broadcasters have stepped up in terms of sponsorships? Which of them put money up in terms of sponsorships and sports development?
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Lot of non broadcasters pour money into sport. ( Including parents...)
 
BBSA said:
I'm actually with the gangster, Multichoice paid exorbitant prices for exclusive rights to maintain their monopoly. Somethings have to change.

Maybe the broadcasting rights should not be that expensive...
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Bigger picture than prices only.
The gangster should educate himself how business work outside the mafia world.
Good luck to him.....
 
Leoror said:
Bigger picture than prices only.
The gangster should educate himself how business work outside the mafia world.
Good luck to him.....
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And how does it work? So far corporate business strategies have not been very conducive for the wellbeing of our sports in the greater public interest.
 
Leoror said:
Bigger picture than prices only.
The gangster should educate himself how business work outside the mafia world.
Good luck to him.....
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Actually the gangsta is busy talking to the other gangstas. We'll see if the MC gangsters can Yunus Carrim him.
 
elf_lord_ZC5 said:
The Right Honarable Minister, is telling DSTV to stop behaving like a School Yard Bully, where national teams are concerned.
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You mean like happens in all first world countries.

Oh wait, Gayton is acting third world, surprise, suprise.
 
As usual Mckenzie thinks he is smart. What Mckenzie needs to get into his head the broadcasting rights were bought and paid for. Rugby and Cricket took the highest bidder at the time. Not related but the same principal, SABC dumped Formula years back because they did not want to pay for it and DSTV bought the broadcasting rights. It works like this MCKenzie if you want to watch rugby or cricket pay for it Because Dstv subscribers are paying for it so don't expect us to subsidize not paying people.
 
People Power said:
As usual Mckenzie thinks he is smart. What Mckenzie needs to get into his head the broadcasting rights were bought and paid for. Rugby and Cricket took the highest bidder at the time. Not related but the same principal, SABC dumped Formula years back because they did not want to pay for it and DSTV bought the broadcasting rights. It works like this MCKenzie if you want to watch rugby or cricket pay for it Because Dstv subscribers are paying for it so don't expect us to subsidize not paying people.
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Is it fine if I pay someone else or must I pay DSTV?
 
Calling Gayton a "gangster" doesn't make him wrong.

Wherever South African sportsmen and women are competing on the international stage, South Africans have the right to watch them, for free.
 
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