Musk Proposes to Buy Twitter for Original Price of $54.20 a Share

ScrooV

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Banworthy tho?

Not that I care, I'm just amused at the pro-free speech people cheering people getting banned :p I thought censorship was the left's thing?

Does what Chaya Mushka (LibsofTikTok) post, count as news? If so, she's a journalist and what journalists have a right to anonymity?

If Taylor Lorenz has been suspended for doxxing Chaya (we can assume so, but no reasons are given), then it's confirmation that Chaya Mushka does not post anything worthy of calling news, but rather hate fuelled misinformation and only opinion. Most people recognise LoTT for what it is - a dog whistle for the alt-right.
 
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Does what Chaya Mushka (LibsofTikTok) post, count as news? If so, she's a journalist and what journalists have a right to anonymity?

If Taylor Lorenz has been suspended for doxxing Chaya (we can assume so, but no reasons are given), then it's confirmation that Chaya Mushka does not post anything worthy of calling news, but rather hate fuelled misinformation and only opinion. Most people recognise LoTK for what it is.
False equivalency. There have been journalists that wrote under a pseudonym.

Taylors doxxing has no bearing on the merits of libs themselves. Taylor also scrubbed her entire twitter account which doesn't give her much credibility.

Kinda funny that you label libs as posting "hate filled misinformation" when the majority of their posts is just reposting existing content as is.

Honestly having to sift through the cesspool that is Tiktok to find these videos entails a higher level of journalistic effort than many of the other independent journalists originally mentioned. I find it very newsworthy to highlight how unhinged some people have become. They didn't not become like that in a vacuum and one can then investigate the reason for their behaviour.

Guess by your own definition, now that the person is known it makes them even more of a journalist?
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Is this really the new Twitter Blue logo?

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False equivalency. There have been journalists that wrote under a pseudonym.

Taylors doxxing has no bearing on the merits of libs themselves. Taylor also scrubbed her entire twitter account which doesn't give her much credibility.

Kinda funny that you label libs as posting "hate filled misinformation" when the majority of their posts is just reposting existing content as is.

Honestly having to sift through the cesspool that is Tiktok to find these videos entails a higher level of journalistic effort than many of the other independent journalists originally mentioned. I find it very newsworthy to highlight how unhinged some people have become. They didn't not become like that in a vacuum and one can then investigate the reason for their behaviour.

Guess by your own definition, now that the person is known it makes them even more of a journalist?
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False equivalency. There have been journalists that wrote under a pseudonym.

Taylors doxxing has no bearing on the merits of libs themselves. Taylor also scrubbed her entire twitter account which doesn't give her much credibility.

Kinda funny that you label libs as posting "hate filled misinformation" when the majority of their posts is just reposting existing content as is.

Honestly having to sift through the cesspool that is Tiktok to find these videos entails a higher level of journalistic effort than many of the other independent journalists originally mentioned. I find it very newsworthy to highlight how unhinged some people have become. They didn't not become like that in a vacuum and one can then investigate the reason for their behaviour.

Guess by your own definition, now that the person is known it makes them even more of a journalist?
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I didn't even know who Taylor Lorentz was before this blew up, so don't know enough of her history to have much of an opinion. Perhaps she has crossed some red lines that warrants a ban. Musk should explain though.

I do know that FB (always seen to be to the right of Twitter until Musk) have banned LoTT, and you don't need to be a genius to know that their posts are dishonest, misrepresentative and are a propaganda tool that plays on the emotions of the far right. Most people probably don't even know about them and their cult followers, but if they did, would not agree with how they go about exposing troubled youth, calling gay teachers groomers etc, and generally creating further divides with misrepresentation and massive bias. If you can't see that, then you're in the cult too.

Debates about anonymous sources for journalists have been a thing forever - don't think there's even an argument for anonymous journalists. Under a pseudonym? Maybe that's ok if the reporting is honest. My opinion.
 

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I didn't even know who Taylor Lorentz was before this blew up, so don't know enough of her history to have much of an opinion. Perhaps she has crossed some red lines that warrants a ban. Musk should explain though.

I do know that FB (always seen to be to the right of Twitter until Musk) have banned LoTT, and you don't need to be a genius to know that their posts are dishonest, misrepresentative and are a propaganda tool that plays on the emotions of the far right. Most people probably don't even know about them and their cult followers, but if they did, would not agree with how they go about exposing troubled youth, calling gay teachers groomers etc, and generally creating further divides with misrepresentation and massive bias. If you can't see that, then you're in the cult too.

Debates about anonymous sources for journalists have been a thing forever - don't think there's even an argument for anonymous journalists. Under a pseudonym? Maybe that's ok if the reporting is honest. My opinion.
Most people didn't know who Taylor was, mostly because she hasn't done any newsworthy reporting. She publishes false information twisting what people tell her to fit her story. So much so that people now just ignore her requests for comment. In short she's a clout chaser.

FB banning is irrelevant, they ban many things that twitter did not. They are by no means to the right due to things like this. All these sites have their own way of doing things. They all needlessly suppress content. Wherever this is FB, youtube heck even indiegogo shadow bans people for no reason.

I don't consider libs a journalist, it's mostly tongue in cheek considering who others consider as journalists. You're right that most people aren't aware of her, but you're wrong about their response should they become aware. Most would think this can't be real and must be a joke since they won't be able to believe the behaviour of those on the videos. Making more people aware that this does exist and is in fact self celebrated is a good thing. Have them start questioning why this is happening.
Groomers are groomers, trying to link this solely to alphabet people is a disingenuous attempt to shield the behaviour. Much of this over the top behaviour is due to the interaction dopamine hit of social media(likes and clicks and all that) . Laughing at such behaviour is a good way to clamp down on it. Teachers that post such videos most definitely do not belong near any children. I agree these people are troubled and need help. Sadly no one wants to help them since it's believed that not affirming their beliefs in harmful. Normalising it is more harmful.

The debate about pseudonyms were usually centered around reporting on something counter the norm. This is probably worse now with the tendency to try and cancel people. Heck Bari and taibbi are accused of being right-wing by MSNBC o_O That said I prefer named journalists.
 

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